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I'm not trying to shame them. Just pointing out what should be the bleeding obvious, despite the interjections of ThreeMorons and the like.
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There are wolfish men, Judge, it is no good railing against their ways, or appealing to their "better" instincts, which they have in very short supply.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

There are wolfish men, Judge, it is no good railing against their ways, or appealing to their "better" instincts, which they have in very short supply.
 

That's one of the whole points of civilization and society. To do exactly that.
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No, the law is what is supposed to keep anti-social behaviour in check. In this case, as PT pointed out, the mechanisms of the law seem to have failed. Lecturing does not work, preaching as we know, is almost always only heeded by the converted.
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So who's to blame for the antisocial behaviour? In this instance.
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BTW, Harvey's now headed off to somewhere or other for treatment for "sex addiction". Poor Harvey the victim...the mind boggles.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

No, the law is what is supposed to keep anti-social behaviour in check. In this case, as PT pointed out, the mechanisms of the law seem to have failed. Lecturing does not work, preaching as we know, is almost always only heeded by the converted.

The chief law enforcement officer and prosecutor is an elected official who is elected with the help of campaign contributions, like ant other politician. In this case the DA for Manhattan who dropped the case. Cyrus Vance Jr, had received  $27k in campaign contributions from Weinstein's lawyer before and after dropping the case against him.  Vance was also a lawyer in the same firm as Weinstein's lawyer before running for DA

What hope did that girl have of justice and what message does it send to the next one abused, about reporting him?
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Criminal behaviour has to be reported, full stop. You don't do that, you are encouraging more of it. If you see a shark in the water, you don't curse the shark, you raise the alarm to help the other unsuspecting swimmers ! Effective action trumps moralising, Judge !
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

No, the law is what is supposed to keep anti-social behaviour in check. In this case, as PT pointed out, the mechanisms of the law seem to have failed. Lecturing does not work, preaching as we know, is almost always only heeded by the converted.


The chief law enforcement officer and prosecutor is an elected official who is elected with the help of campaign contributions, like ant other politician. In this case the DA for Manhattan who dropped the case. Cyrus Vance Jr, had received  $27k in campaign contributions from Weinstein's lawyer before and after dropping the case against him.  Vance was also a lawyer in the same firm as Weinstein's lawyer before running for DA

What hope did that girl have of justice and what message does it send to the next one abused, about reporting him?

The more complaints, the better the chances.
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Isn't that what they are doing now that someone is finally listening?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Isn't that what they are doing now that someone is finally listening?

"They" would have been listening a lot earlier, if the numbers had come forward then.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

No, the law is what is supposed to keep anti-social behaviour in check. In this case, as PT pointed out, the mechanisms of the law seem to have failed. Lecturing does not work, preaching as we know, is almost always only heeded by the converted.

The chief law enforcement officer and prosecutor is an elected official who is elected with the help of campaign contributions, like ant other politician. In this case the DA for Manhattan who dropped the case. Cyrus Vance Jr, had received  $27k in campaign contributions from Weinstein's lawyer before and after dropping the case against him.  Vance was also a lawyer in the same firm as Weinstein's lawyer before running for DA

What hope did that girl have of justice and what message does it send to the next one abused, about reporting him?

Seriously, it's like trying to reason with a plush toy...
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How superior you are, Judge !
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Hey, if I'm not a victim blamer, I'll take that all day every day.
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If your next door neighbour had his dog baited, and didn't tell you about it, and next week your dog was baited, you wouldn't resent his not warning you ? Wake up !
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Well that's just about the dumbest thing I've ever heardLOL
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Too clever for you, Judge. Hiding crime hurts others. Those Hollywood broads who kept this under wraps are far from blameless.
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This is a really weird thread. Hollywood has been sexually exploiting people since day dot. Stars became stars because they pleasured a producer. Suddenly it's an issue?

Would be good to rip the lid off the whole thing, but can't see that happening.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

This is a really weird thread. Hollywood has been sexually exploiting people since day dot. Stars became stars because they pleasured a producer. Suddenly it's an issue?

Would be good to rip the lid off the whole thing, but can't see that happening.

I'm sure over centuries priests were fiddling with kiddies since day dot. Suddenly it's an issue? Well, quite. Times have changed.
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I seem to remember that some of the Nazi "elite" preyed on the German cinema starlets of the time, Goebbels certainly one, Bormann another. I doubt complaining to police would have helped much under that regime.
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Geez took you 5 mins to do that.
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Sorry that was to judge.
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Ever heard of Fatry Arbuckle? Charlie Chaplin? Roman Polanski? Jack Nicholson? Warren Beatty? Guy Pierce?
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Five minutes? Don't get it. The time it takes you to tie your shoelaces?
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Beatty ? He had women throwing themselves at him. It's an awful thing to deal with, from what I can remember of it.
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Weird.
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Hollywood is just a big orgy, sad but true
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I know, right...centuries of it
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Beatty ? He had women throwing themselves at him. It's an awful thing to deal with, from what I can remember of it.

He had a good time, that's for sure.
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