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max manewer
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The volume of people passing through it may have some input into that, I am not a fan or apologist for casinos either, I think the way successive govts have approved more casinos is dead wrong. |
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So all those old western movies when cowboys are shot playing cards is fallacy....unbelievable !
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The context of that was usually cheating, from my observations. I have been in some bent card games, and never resorted to violence, but did avoid any further contact with the cheats ! |
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You are verballing me, 1-1. I never said that. |
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Many would have went on during prohibition, your commenting on one now, and what goes on behind closed door's you read about but know little of the reasons, losses at gambleing would be holding its own there with a belly full of drink thrown in. |
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You are assuming this massacre is attributable to gambling losses, I wouldn't make that assumption. Of course gambling losses frequently lead to domestic discord, but so do a host of other money-munching vices, particularly drugs. But we are talking about a mass shooting here. |
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That is saying punters are mugs, and fair game ? It is saying that there is no compulsion to bet, other than a self-generated one.
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Seems to me, 1-1, that you are taking your antipathy towards gambling operators, out on me ! Better that than buy a machine gun, I guess.
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Nope, you are gilding the lily. "mug" is a pejorative I have not applied to anyone. The biggest advertiser at the moment appears to be Crownbet, and I seriously doubt it is money they will easily recoup. But again, it is a matter of personal choice to bet, drink, take drugs etc, and a life that is marred by wasting money you can't afford to spend, is in the end down to the spender, no one else. |
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You might as well pass laws preventing shopaholics from racking up huge credit card debt, 1-1, as crack down on gambling outlets. You infringe on the liberty of others. There is absolutely no substitute for self-control in this life, and those without it will **** up big-time, one way or another.
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Road rules aren't there to stop you hurting yourself, more to stop you hurting others. And banks impose credit limits out of concern you won't be able to pay up, not that you are putting yourself in distress.
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I know a bloke, who I had not seen for decades, that got himself into severe financial distress from various addictions, He spun me a few sob stories and I helped him out financially. I had real doubts that he wasn't wasting what I gave him on some kind of addiction(s), (not gambling), but since I found out the real situation, he won't be getting any more from me. That is what addicts of any kind do, lie, cheat, steal, cadge, anything but accept they are not in control, and need to be.
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It is all supposition, at this stage. I can accept the casino industry wants to distance his gambling habits fromn what happened, and even that the wider authorities would be complicit in wanting to do that, but what the real situation was, we may never know.
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Muhammed Azziz files lawsuit against MGM and the Killers estate.
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reductio ad absurdum
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I see the FBI has set itself the goal of issuing a report on Steve's rampage, and the motives behind it.....by next October !
The motives will never be unravelled, imo, when you start trying to rationalize the irrational, it never ends with a satisfactory result. I can't imagine why the "how" of his deeds will take till next October to figure out, that should already be a mature investigation, the "why" can't realistically be expected to ever crystallize, if it hasn't already, either. In my opinion, of course. |
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These investigations are designed to fail. Too many powerful lobbies dont want answers
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you sound like a conspiracy theorist which you were quick to label everyone else in here as one, who were suspect on the whole thing and the way it was being handled. but youve come around. better late than never. |
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Pretty sure I pointed out the CDC and lack of recording of mass murder details pretty early on in this thread, but then you probably weren't interested in that,
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Passing Through
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22nd October To be a really effective troll, you have to keep on top of detail cabo....failing at that too
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Nah. You pointed out anyone who had concerns and suspicions about the the way it was being handled by authorities were conspiracy theorists. you sided with authorities saying they were doung their job and again...dont give updates to appease conspiracy theorists. youve down a massive backflip. welcome aboard. 👍 |
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but powerful lobby groups corrupt the investigation and wont let the truth out. backflip. |
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but powerful lobby groups will corrupt the investigation and the truth. backflip. |
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