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Paddock allegedly had surveillance cameras linked to a laptop, yet it is claimed he removed the hard drive from it after the mayhem started. It was nowhere to be found. He could have tossed it out the smashed window, but why was it not found ?
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Paddock allegedly had surveillance cameras linked to a laptop, yet it is claimed he removed the hard drive from it after the mayhem started. It was nowhere to be found. He could have tossed it out the smashed window, but why was it not found ?


Today I note :- The hard drive may have been removed long ago.

Another newby is He had lost heavily on the gamble since 2015,      His Family and Friends weren't as close.
That may signal deteriorating mental health.
One investigator is convinced the girl friend is hiding something.
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I reckon she is too, Macca .  He couldnt have all those weapons in a room at the house, and her not know about it.  If my OH was stock piling guns, or anything for that matter, no way would he be able to hide them from me in the house we both live in. I think most other wives/girlfriends here would agree with that ?? And surely she would have some idea if he was doing his ass on the tables ?  No woman could be as dumb as she is making out she is,,,,could they ?? Wacko
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I am sure there are plenty of scenarios out there from the multitude of people who have to have ''their facts'' confirmed to hold on to the hundreds of thousands of subscribers to their YouTube conspiracy sites, which in turn brings in the dollars for their hits. No money in reporting boring facts like MSM does.
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I am sure there are plenty of scenarios out there from the multitude of people who have to have ''their facts'' confirmed to hold on to the hundreds of thousands of subscribers to their YouTube conspiracy sites, which in turn brings in the dollars for their hits. No money in reporting boring facts like MSM does.


Understand you and AA, PT.        Paranoia is a difficult state of mind to detect.   > Noted for the barrier of camouflage that exists in serious cases.
   Whatever the real story is, he certainly put it into operation with expertise.
Such people are known for the fact " They don't talk ".    3 ears and no mouth is not helpful to Policing.
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A good man is hard to find, macca. Some say a hard man is good to find, quite a few women think that.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am sure there are plenty of scenarios out there from the multitude of people who have to have ''their facts'' confirmed to hold on to the hundreds of thousands of subscribers to their YouTube conspiracy sites, which in turn brings in the dollars for their hits. No money in reporting boring facts like MSM does.


plain suspicion, or brain storming for possible motives isnt a conspiracy theory.
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Not a scrap of info has come forth. It might be explainable if they are looking for accomplices.
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am sure there are plenty of scenarios out there from the multitude of people who have to have ''their facts'' confirmed to hold on to the hundreds of thousands of subscribers to their YouTube conspiracy sites, which in turn brings in the dollars for their hits. No money in reporting boring facts like MSM does.


plain suspicion, or brain storming for possible motives isnt a conspiracy theory.

Like moon landings, JFK, Elvis, Ted Cruz father, Area 51, twin towers etc etc etc?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am sure there are plenty of scenarios out there from the multitude of people who have to have ''their facts'' confirmed to hold on to the hundreds of thousands of subscribers to their YouTube conspiracy sites, which in turn brings in the dollars for their hits. No money in reporting boring facts like MSM does.


plain suspicion, or brain storming for possible motives isnt a conspiracy theory.


Like moon landings, JFK, Elvis, Ted Cruz father, Area 51, twin towers etc etc etc?


is that mentioned here? are posters here talking about crisis actors and a staged terrorist plots?


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Gee here's a surprise. Investigators are now saying that Paddock had lost a "significant" amount of money since 2015....that he feared losing his status as a high roller....& that it caused him to have bouts of depression...& that is likely to be a "strong" motivating factor for the massacre. Wow...& its only taken a few months to come up with this startling revelation. Wouldn't you love to get the Casino managements side of the story...you know....how they tried to "help" him with his issues !
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So it's the casino's fault, that all those people got shot ?
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So it's the casino's fault, that all those people got shot ?
I would not go as far as saying that Max . However, I doubt he would have carried out such a mission if he had not been enticed/ facilitated into the high roller Casino honey pot !
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So there is a logical connection between losing money gambling, then lashing out at innocent people ? I've never really noticed it, I expect you'd be seeing people walking out of a race track and punching stranger's lights out, if it were the case.
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So there is a logical connection between losing money gambling, then lashing out at innocent people ? I've never really noticed it, I expect you'd be seeing people walking out of a race track and punching stranger's lights out, if it were the case.
That comment surprises me Max. Seen many a losing punter take it out on others - partners, kids, service provider. Add a bit of grog/ drugs & you have the perfect storm
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If they have a motive, now we might be able to see the 5000 security camera footage of his time at mandalay.
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There a number of reasons why Sydney Casino has the highest violence statistics of any major venue. One of these is a lot of people doing their arse in the one spot !
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

So there is a logical connection between losing money gambling, then lashing out at innocent people ? I've never really noticed it, I expect you'd be seeing people walking out of a race track and punching stranger's lights out, if it were the case.

That comment surprises me Max. Seen many a losing punter take it out on others - partners, kids, service provider. Add a bit of grog/ drugs & you have the perfect storm

But, complete strangers ?
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

So there is a logical connection between losing money gambling, then lashing out at innocent people ? I've never really noticed it, I expect you'd be seeing people walking out of a race track and punching stranger's lights out, if it were the case.

That comment surprises me Max. Seen many a losing punter take it out on others - partners, kids, service provider. Add a bit of grog/ drugs & you have the perfect storm

But, complete strangers ?
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I think you are stretching the truth beyond its elastic limits, 1-1, in attempting to frame gambling as the cause of this mayhem. We don't even know what his financial position was, and we sure aren't learning much of anything from the "authorities" about it.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I think you are stretching the truth beyond its elastic limits, 1-1, in attempting to frame gambling as the cause of this mayhem. We don't even know what his financial position was, and we sure aren't learning much of anything from the "authorities" about it.
Am only saying what has been recently reported Max. Am yet to hear a better reasoning ?
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Maybe this formula might help Max ,
 
Pre-disposed nutter (genes) + compulsive gambler (genes) + high roller parasitic environment = broke depressed nutter with a grudge = an individual that can slaughter anyone
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He was obviously a psych case. No question about it, I don't think it a co-incidence that his sociopathic father was on the FBI 10 most wanted list years ago.
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We don't know whether he was broke, or anywhere near it, and as I say, they ain't telling !
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Well they sort of are Max. They are saying he lost "a significant" amount of money since 2015. I don't think the bloke was a squillionare - it has been reported he made multiple millions a number of times in real estate....certainly not Kerry Packer type figures . To even be a low level high roller (that's what's being now claimed) for 2 to 3 years you need a lot of loot in Vegas. So I reckon the writing was on the wall for the bloke. He loved the status...& he knew it was all coming to an end. All of this is not a great look for Vegas....& I think he knew that would be the case. That last bit are just my thoughts.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I think you are stretching the truth beyond its elastic limits, 1-1, in attempting to frame gambling as the cause of this mayhem. We don't even know what his financial position was, and we sure aren't learning much of anything from the "authorities" about it.

Am only saying what has been recently reported Max. Am yet to hear a better reasoning ?

Sore loser's, and poor loser's, frustration, violence, anarchy it goe's on Max I know you are aware of this, are you stringing 1-1 along?
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I mean the starting point was he was a successful professional gambler that played VIDEO POKER MACHINES 16 hrs a day
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I think you are stretching the truth beyond its elastic limits, 1-1, in attempting to frame gambling as the cause of this mayhem. We don't even know what his financial position was, and we sure aren't learning much of anything from the "authorities" about it.

Am only saying what has been recently reported Max. Am yet to hear a better reasoning ?

Sore loser's, and poor loser's, frustration, violence, anarchy it goe's on Max I know you are aware of this, are you stringing 1-1 along?
The theory does not fit Max's mantra of "gambling is all good", operators can do whatever they want to fleece punters addicted to it, & so on Carioca. If only life was that simple
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I think you are stretching the truth beyond its elastic limits, 1-1, in attempting to frame gambling as the cause of this mayhem. We don't even know what his financial position was, and we sure aren't learning much of anything from the "authorities" about it.

Am only saying what has been recently reported Max. Am yet to hear a better reasoning ?

Sore loser's, and poor loser's, frustration, violence, anarchy it goe's on Max I know you are aware of this, are you stringing 1-1 along?

Point me to a precedent, of a gambler going berserk and committing mass murder, because of gambling.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I think you are stretching the truth beyond its elastic limits, 1-1, in attempting to frame gambling as the cause of this mayhem. We don't even know what his financial position was, and we sure aren't learning much of anything from the "authorities" about it.

Am only saying what has been recently reported Max. Am yet to hear a better reasoning ?

Sore loser's, and poor loser's, frustration, violence, anarchy it goe's on Max I know you are aware of this, are you stringing 1-1 along?

The theory does not fit Max's mantra of "gambling is all good", operators can do whatever they want to fleece punters addicted to it, & so on Carioca. If only life was that simple

Come off it, 1-1, I have never said gambling is all good, in fact you will find I have stated I am ambivalent about it. But I also say that people with poor impulse control of any kind, always finish up in trouble.
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