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    Posted: 04 Feb 2020 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Dont know, but putting millions of people in prison for anything you are offended by is not the answer. America proves that. Maybe try lifting people up, not keep them underpaid and oppressed. Create a better environment for them. But then if you fix people's problems they dont need populist movements and politics of grievance. All your right wing divisive politicians will become totally irrelevant.



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Dont know, but putting millions of people in prison for anything you are offended by is not the answer. America proves that. Maybe try lifting people up, not keep them underpaid and oppressed. Create a better environment for them. But then if you fix people's problems they dont need populist movements and politics of grievance. All your right wing divisive politicians will become totally irrelevant.
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So PT - what is your answer ? Slap on the wrist maybe ?
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Fun fact Tigg, if you could execute or imprison your way out of your crime problems the Us with the biggest prison population on the planet and a country that executes would have the lowest crime rate of western countries rather than one of the highest.
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Now that IS a fun fact !Clap
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Fun fact, they released the nut job from prison to only go on another terrorism spree

Fun fact, he is DEAD now
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Fun fact: There were an average of 25,000 other violent crimes, 800 knife attacks and 15 murders in England LAST WEEK,

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Another terrorism related event in London.   At least they killed the bastard.   Out of jail after serving half his sentence for terror related crimes.  Cant say he was a muslim but his name sort of gives him away.   Wink He wont be doing any more stuff, and Boris is looking at changing the rules for terror related crimes.  
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Interesting read this thread. What is now obvious is that the bloke lost many millions in the last years of his life. One article had him owning a $8.4 million block of apartments as one of many in his property portfolio.
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What he did was an act of domestic terrorism. In Trump world terrorists are Arabs(but not from SA or UAE) or Mexican.

Middle aged white men are not terrorists.
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Not sure about any of that PT. But have a look at his primary residence - hardly looks in order for a high roller based in Vegas. Or maybe it does LOLHe did have a secondary residence though - just not quite as good as that one LOL
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And you wont hear a motive while Trump is President and his puppy Barr is Attorney General.
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& even in that article they say he "attained significant wealth through highstakes gambling..........before losing much of it". Reckon that would be cobblers. Suggest he was always consistent loser - which is why he had a history of being wined & dined by a number of Casinos. 
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Just decided to look up the latest on this nutjob. Still no confirmed motive apparently. I do find it slightly amusing that his "nearly 1.4million estate" does not seem to cop more scrutiny as to why he may have done it. I mean its not much for a bloke living the high life in Vegas - esp when the majority of it was tied up in 2 pieces of real estate. He would have had next to no cash - so i think his extravagant lifestyle was very quickly coming to an end. The casino comps would be nearing an end as part of that - you are only as good as your current bank account in that town. So as i thought this bloke was not a successful gambler as was being touted at the time - he was a typical cash cow addicted punter who was doing his arse. Maybe the motive was as simple as that - not that the Casinos would ever let that idea gain any traction. Not good for business.

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Oh dear, I precipitated a Christmas brawl ! But, it does seem an absurdity to think they will have answers by next October, that they haven't got by now. Unless there is some scientific testing still in the pipeline.
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You are a sad man cabo. 


for scoring your backflip and giving it a perfect 10 out of 10?

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You are a sad man cabo. 
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im only on page 3.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Investigators owe it to the families of the dead and injured to do a thorough and complete job investigating this

They don't owe a running commentary to a voyeuristic public who want their bizarre conspiracy theories confirmed 


but the families wont get that because....

powerful lonby groups corrupt the investigation ad dont want the truth out.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Pretty sure they are working to answer their questions on their own timeline, rathers than every conspiracy nutter out there looking to sell something, and they will announce what they are required to release when they are ready


but powerful lobby groups will corrupt the investigation and the truth.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

They dont, the NSA/FBI does that


so what was your point about security cameras in vegas casinos?


 

That surveillance does a fantastic job of catching crooks. They will have every detail of this monster's life that can be electronically gathered and it is a great thing they do



but powerful lobby groups corrupt the investigation and wont let the truth out.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Pretty sure I pointed out the CDC and lack of recording of mass murder details pretty early on in this thread, but then you probably weren't interested in that, 


Nah. You pointed out anyone who had concerns and suspicions about the the way it was being handled by authorities were conspiracy theorists. you sided with authorities saying they were doung their job and again...dont give updates to appease conspiracy theorists.

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The Centre for Disease Control and Prevention(CDC) is the body who researches and collects data on gun crime in the US ''Strangely'' congress keeps cutting their budgets to the point where they dont have the resources to do that properly. Statistics required for legislative assessment comes down to the FBI and local and state law enforcement data.

 

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Pretty sure I pointed out the CDC and lack of recording of mass murder details pretty early on in this thread, but then you probably weren't interested in that, 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

These investigations are designed to fail. Too many powerful lobbies dont want answers 


you sound like a conspiracy theorist which you were quick to label everyone else in here as one, who were suspect on the whole thing and the way it was being handled.


but youve come around. better late than never.
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These investigations are designed to fail. Too many powerful lobbies dont want answers 
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I see the FBI has set itself the goal of issuing a report on Steve's rampage, and the motives behind it.....by next October !

The motives will never be unravelled, imo, when you start trying to rationalize the irrational, it never ends with a satisfactory result. I can't imagine why the "how" of his deeds will take till next October to figure out, that should already be a mature investigation, the "why" can't realistically be expected to ever crystallize, if it hasn't already, either. In my opinion, of course.
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Muhammed Azziz files lawsuit against MGM and the Killers estate. 


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It is all supposition, at this stage. I can accept the casino industry wants to distance his gambling habits fromn what happened, and even that the wider authorities would be complicit in wanting to do that, but what the real situation was, we may never know.
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