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Dr E 
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 Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:29pm |
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... and all the rest of the OUTRAGE! industry, the virtue signalers, and the SJW's of the violent out of touch regressive left.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:06pm |
Petition against gay marriageAap
Friday, August 21, 2015 CANBERRA - A group of senior Aboriginal leaders is petitioning federal parliament to oppose same-sex marriage. The Uluru bark petition, backed by leaders of 70 different indigenous cultural groups from Queensland to Western Australia, was formally delivered to Speaker Tony Smith yesterday. The group opposes same-sex marriage on the basis that traditional unions between a man and a woman have always been upheld among the oldest living culture on earth. Indigenous Liberal MP Ken Wyatt said fathers and mothers were deeply honoured in Aboriginal culture. "They form the foundation of our families, class and system, and pass down our teaching, culture our traditions from generation to generation," he told parliament.
wow. this is a spanner in the works
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Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:19pm |
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<div id="storyer" style="margin: 0.5em 0px 0.6em; padding: 0px 0.5em; border-top: 1px dotted rgb204, 204, 204; border-bottom: 1px dotted rgb204, 204, 204; border-: initial; text-align: center; border-left: none; border-right: none; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><h1 style="margin: 0.2em 2em; padding: 0px; font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif; font-size: 1.5em; line-height: 1em;">Petition against gay marriage</h1><p style="margin: 1em 0px 0.5em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.7em; line-height: 1.4em;">Aap<br style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Friday, August 21, 2015<div id="story" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 0.5em; border-left: 3em solid rgb249, 249, 249; font-size: 1.1em; color: rgb68, 68, 68; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><p ="intro" style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">CANBERRA - A group of senior Aboriginal leaders is petitioning federal parliament to oppose same-sex marriage.<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">The Uluru bark petition, backed by leaders of 70 different indigenous cultural groups from Queensland to Western Australia, was formally delivered to Speaker Tony Smith yesterday.<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">The group opposes same-sex marriage on the basis that traditional unions between a man and a woman have always been upheld among the oldest living culture on earth.<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">Indigenous Liberal MP Ken Wyatt said fathers and mothers were deeply honoured in Aboriginal culture.<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">"They form the foundation of our families, class and system, and pass down our teaching, culture our traditions from generation to generation," he told parliament.<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">
<p style="margin: 0px 0px 1.1em; padding: 0px; font-size: 0.75em; line-height: 1.4em;">wow. this is a spanner in the works |
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Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:46pm |
how will the pc crowd defend this one? kudos to the Elders for having and putting forward their opinion.
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Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:57pm |
Are we going to be asked to trade Australia Day for Gay Marriage (or some other shiny trinkets)? 
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:04am |
So now black opinions matter Doc?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:26am |
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what do you think? indigenous elders against gay marriage like the burqa and feminism....i guess your mob just ignore ??? thats the playbook. 
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:32am |
I dont think it is any surprise that some or even many traditional people have a conservative view. Ken Wyatt has respectfully presenrted an opposing view before.
Just as long as the survey makes it's way to Western Australia and Queensland their views will go into the mix
Why are they petitioning Federal Parliament now? The survey is happening
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:35am |
And btw, it is ''your mob'' trying to ignore the will of the majority of Australians views. 
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:45am |
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I dont think it is any surprise that some or even many traditional people have a conservative view. Ken Wyatt has respectfully presenrted an opposing view before.
Just as long as the survey makes it's way to Western Australia and Queensland their views will go into the mix
Why are they petitioning Federal Parliament now? The survey is happening |
So you respect a thousand year plus old culture and view. Catholic church has a thousand year old view too. same respect?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:50am |
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No, I wasn't complaining about the CC putting forward it's views I was complaining about Lyly Shelton being dishonest
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 7:59am |
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No, I wasn't complaining about the CC putting forward it's views I was complaining about Lyly Shelton being dishonest |
Bs. you were crying about political influence and whatever else. you had more to say than "its no surprise the cc has a conservative view" like you said about the indigenous position. your mob have one org in your sights in this debate and its the CC. even though your own religion islam opposes gay marriage and in some cases in the most brutal way. stop lying PT.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:06am |
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Everyone is entitled to a view. A group shouldn't however be advantaged by holding political leverage trying to skew the will of the majority. Surely as a committed commie you agree with that?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:48am |
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Everyone is entitled to a view. A group shouldn't however be advantaged by holding political leverage trying to skew the will of the majority. Surely as a committed commie you agree with that? |
who holds political leveage? havent you been blowing off that 75% of the population will vote YES and therefore its a foregone conclusion, a waste of time even voting? the CC is so powerful huh, they really swayed opinion. and isnt religion just about done in this country as you boasted after the last census? you are an idiot.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:50am |
You imposing your cultural values on me, when it has no effect on you, is not respect.
I realise that the antis are furiously concocting arguments on how it will effect them, but I just don't see it. I don't buy the slippery slope logical fallacy.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:55am |
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Everyone is entitled to a view. A group shouldn't however be advantaged by holding political leverage trying to skew the will of the majority. Surely as a committed commie you agree with that? |
you boasted how the last census showed religion is largely redundant. so who is the CC going to sway? 75% YES in numerous polls. jumping at shadows or just hanging more sh*t on the church pt?
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I am happy with the outcome of the poll, and will accept it, whatever it is, as long as no interest groups have a hand pushing on the scales, politicians respect the result, and the debate is conducted with respect.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:56am |
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Everyone is entitled to a view. A group shouldn't however be advantaged by holding political leverage trying to skew the will of the majority. Surely as a committed commie you agree with that? |
you boasted how the last census showed religion is largely redundant. so who is the CC going to sway?
75% YES in numerous polls.
jumping at shadows or just hanging more sh*t on the church pt? |
Are you taking the p1ss?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:57am |
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I am happy with the outcome of the poll, and will accept it, whatever it is, as long as no interest groups have a hand pushing on the scales, politicians respect the result, and the debate is conducted with respect. |
How is that going to happen?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 8:58am |
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I am happy with the outcome of the poll, and will accept it, whatever it is, as long as no interest groups have a hand pushing on the scales, politicians respect the result, and the debate is conducted with respect. |
so diplomatic. backtrack much.... shouldnt you busy calling indigenous folk homophobes? oops. the sjw cult cant touch that one.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:01am |
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cabosanlucas wrote:
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Everyone is entitled to a view. A group shouldn't however be advantaged by holding political leverage trying to skew the will of the majority. Surely as a committed commie you agree with that? |
you boasted how the last census showed religion is largely redundant. so who is the CC going to sway?
75% YES in numerous polls.
jumping at shadows or just hanging more sh*t on the church pt? |
Are you taking the p1ss? |
well answer it. 75% will vote yes say the polls. people have been leaving religion in droves as you pointed out in the last census. sway? explain.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:02am |
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I am happy with the outcome of the poll, and will accept it, whatever it is, as long as no interest groups have a hand pushing on the scales, politicians respect the result, and the debate is conducted with respect. |
so diplomatic. backtrack much....
shouldnt you busy calling indigenous folk homophobes? oops. the sjw cult cant touch that one. |
Pardon my French but all black societies are homophobic. 
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:02am |
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:03am |
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You know the committed Catholic who is in a public stoush with his gay sister opposing SSM at any cost, who has the Turnbull govt by the balls?
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:09am |
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You know the committed Catholic who is in a public stoush with his gay sister opposing SSM at any cost, who has the Turnbull govt by the balls? |
has he got a gun to the head of every voter on ssm? people can vote freely pt. Its that sort of country. and if people cant be arsed to vote...thats good too. it just means the issue isnt that important to them in the big picture and they can freely choose to not vote. Its a great concept. 
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:13am |
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* and shouldnt you be saying tony abbott doesnt represent all catholics?
note you call him a "commited catholic" but for lunatic islamic imams and such...you quickly separate them from the fold and denounce them as agenda driven and not truly representative.
different rules for catholics PT? Of course there is.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:31am |
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The aboriginal "bark petition" was two years ago. Maybe like the politicians, they have changed their minds. My two bob's worth is this, many who oppose gay marriage do so because they don't want to be associated with gays socially, and don't want them encroaching into the area of, and devaluing, as they see it, important life events and milestones, and their traditional understandings of why they are significant. Homophobia it may be, but that word has become pejorative. If this issue was the "no-brainer" the "yes" push want to make it out to be, it would have happened long ago, universally. But I'm not worried about it, social change is not irreversible, and if society deems homosexual marriage not such a great idea in the future, out it will go.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:38am |
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* and shouldnt you be saying tony abbott doesnt represent all catholics?
note you call him a "commited catholic" but for lunatic islamic imams and such...you quickly separate them from the fold and denounce them as agenda driven and not truly representative.
different rules for catholics PT? Of course there is. |
Even more reason his position shouldn't have the weight of influence it carries.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:40am |
One of the main reasons gays want marriage is to get next-of-kin status. The stories I'm hearing of families of gays keeping their long term partner out of the hospital room when they are sick are disgusting. Why would you do that?
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