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maccamax
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Shows how luckless I am .
I've been in hundreds of lifts and no one has grabbed my arze. |
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Whale
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you mean when the knowledge base was 1% what it is now ? no scientific advances in the last 20 years which have benefited you |
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cabosanlucas
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im a big fan of freddy mercury & elton john music.
just sayin. 🎼 Edited by Gay3 - 20 Nov 2017 at 6:47pm |
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Second Chance
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Now you are just being plain silly Second Chance!!! Asimov was a dedicated ass man (of the female variety, importantly). QUOTE] Doesn't change Doc's preferences: he admits to enjoying books written by sex predators. As for the other genital mutilation authors, you're talking absolute cr@p. Dowsett speaks about male circumcision and only refers to FGM as a point of comparison - as completely distinct from promoting that procedure. And Ward talks about reversing female mutilation, not condoning FMG. Get your facts straight, or if you've already done so stop so flagrantly and grubbily misrepresenting the authors in question to suit your own legless argument.
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max manewer
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I admit enjoying reading Asimov's books, does his allegedly being a "predator" mean the books are less readable ?
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scamanda
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I disagree with all of that. And I know that there are some pensioners on this forum who are in that position (renting) who get by very well. They may not want to tell you who they are though.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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scamanda
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Does he do a form guide? If not I probably haven't read his work.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Second Chance
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Am groping for an answer Max.
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max manewer
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Dr E
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My views exactly! Notice there were still only two genders, and homosexuality was acceptable, as was most of the things that macca enjoys ... but no such thing as a Transexual back then - the science was settled! |
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Dr E
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I think the crap is a one way tsunami ... who are you trying to convince? ... yourself?
So you're a big fan of Ward and Dowsett then SC? ... This is a guy who now tries to hide from the public domain, what he proudly had published previously, about the need to consider the welfare and comfort of PEDOPHILES ... hes not some ass pincher. What do you call the medical procedures that the children as young as 3 and 4 are being prepared for, other than genital mutilation? ... do you REALLY think they are capable of understanding any of the ramifications, let alone making those decisions as 3 and 4 year olds, with or without COACHING AND GROOMING from mentally ill freaks and SUPPORTERS OF PEDOPHILIA? ... seems it's worked well on you and PT though ... it's ALL Science Fiction ya know! |
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Whale
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Foundation Trilogy riveting stuff.
Haven't read a book in decades but Asimov's were some of the best |
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Dr E
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Here, here!
... plus he was an ass man, and a supporter of feminism and homosexual rights ... what a guy!
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max manewer
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You have groping on the brain. I'm sure a lot of great literature was written by people who were not model citizens, but that doesn't get them removed from, e.g., the school syllabus. |
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Whale
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okay Dr E , I get it, you are fooling with me |
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JudgeHolden
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And one of the early prominent voices drawing attention to dangers of rising atmospheric CO2 levels. https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/463/ |
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Dr E
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... nobodies perfect judge!
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JudgeHolden
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Not even close. Children who present with gender dysphoria at the age of 4 are given counselling only (something everyone agrees on) by appropriate health professionals. Rather different from grooming I’m afraid. Other medical interventions won’t be considered until puberty (under guidelines from the Endocrine Society of the US, not Karl Marx) and surgery (presumably the “mutilation” you refer to) until 18. Ongoing treatment on a needs basis. And with the involvement of the child’s parents, naturally. Though this is a relatively new area, early studies suggest this approach is having positive results, though more high quality research is needed. Programs can be amended accordingly. But in the meantime, perhaps you could propose your own protocols, and we can take a good look at them. |
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Second Chance
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Whale
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Not even close. Children who present with gender dysphoria at the age of 4 are given counselling only (something everyone agrees on) by appropriate health professionals. Rather different from grooming I’m afraid. Other medical interventions won’t be considered until puberty (under guidelines from the Endocrine Society of the US, not Karl Marx) and surgery (presumably the “mutilation” you refer to) until 18. Ongoing treatment on a needs basis. And with the involvement of the child’s parents, naturally. Though this is a relatively new area, early studies suggest this approach is having positive results, though more high quality research is needed. Programs can be amended accordingly. But in the meantime, perhaps you could propose your own protocols, and we can take a good look at them. [/QUOTE] but nobody listens to the hysterical ramblings of that liar Dr E, no lie is to0 outrageous for that clown |
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max manewer
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What is deemed a psychiatric disorder, has an unnerving tendency to alter drastically over time. Within your lifetime, homosexuality was similarly regarded, as a psychiatric disorder. Now, seen as "normal". |
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Isaac soloman
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if whale was in any way consistent he would be jumping all over you sc, as he attacks max in the same way. psychiatric disorder, so now there is an excuse.... what about "low morals". the bar is being set very low nowadays. thankfully the younger gens seem to know better.
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Whale
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I doubt it is a psychiatric condition, it is an unfortunate sexual preference which is hard to resist as they all are, caused by brain being wired in a particular way, but no excuse, it is repulsive and I have no sympathy for them. They should voluntarily castrate themselves |
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Dr E
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GARY Dowsett is a FEMALE ... well researched SC ... I need not bother reading any more of your ill informed ramblings then ... Cheers!
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Dr E
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... don't worry, I'm sure that Whale and Judgemental will comfort you through your issues!
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max manewer
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Poor old Abbott copping it from gays, after he congratulated his daughter on her engagement. The problem seems to be that Tony is not doing the right thing approving a marriage given the short length of the relationship, but never approves of gays marrying, regardless of the duration.
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Dr E
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What about the 4 year olds in NSW Judge? ... who's looking after their interests? ... is this a relatively new aree, like Climate Change? ... are the "positive" results being supported by "97% of scientists", proving that the "science is settled" too? Why tf am I even arguing the point? How could ANYONE who is not a f'ed up freak possibly even imagine that a 4 year old needs gender reassignment in the first place??? ... have a good look in the mirror if you believe this gelati Judge, seriously! It's a bunch of dangerous, mentally ill people pushing an agenda ... at least Climate Fraud is only about GREED$$$$! We don’t normalise having cancer and we don’t normalise medical conditions, yet society is normalising transgenderism, which trivialises my grief and pain. My earliest memory of sensing that I might be different to the other kids was as a four-year old boy trying on a white frilly girl’s dress. It felt comfortable, but I didn’t give it further thought after that. At that stage in life I didn’t exhibit behaviour and thought typical of acute early onset gender dysphoria, such as using a nail clipper to try to cut off my penis. I was just a typical boy who had an inkling that he might’ve been different to the other boys. I started to play around in my mother’s wardrobe during primary school, and it wasn’t until I was 11 did I start to feel I was in the wrong body, and recognise that I was experiencing gender dysphoria. My dysphoria grew naturally, and started to eat up a lot of my time on a daily basis. Despite frequent contact with healthcare professionals during my teenage years, none were willing or able to support my parents in understanding my life debilitation, which didn’t start to alleviate until I started my male-to-female transition circa 2010. Fast forward to 2017, the normalisation of transgenderism in Western society has been a swing too far to the left. In the early years of my transition, I felt justified in believing this would be good for society. It was an immature Roz Ward-style response to the perceived injustice I experienced as a teenager. But I’ve come to realise that I was wrong – as a trans woman I should’ve known better about the dangers of normalising transgenderism in society. Transgender people should be vetted thoroughly before receiving medical treatment, and should be rare. Once upon a time it was rare, and generally stigmatised by society. While I’m grateful that the stigma has significantly diminished in recent years, I am disturbed by the social normalisation and demedicalisation of transgenderism. Despite receiving the best ongoing medical treatment for gender dysphoria I could ever ask for, my dysphoria still causes me grief and pain. But that’s my grief and pain to carry. And it’s the responsibility of adults to deal with the struggles of life. Sadly, some adults in positions of power think it’s okay to send the message to children that they can be whatever gender they want to be. The push to normalise transgenderism in schools breaks my heart. My grief and pain has turned into a political football, known as radical gender theory, for children to play with under the guise of Safe Schools and similar programs. Transgenderism should stick to the doctor’s room, not the classroom. With the exception of a tiny minority of genuine cases of gender dysphoria, children are not capable of experiencing gender dysphoria. I myself a genuine case of gender dysphoria, did not experience serious gender dysphoria until my teenage years. Known research on this matter show that many children who think they have gender dysphoria will grow out of it. We should be thankful that children can grow out of the grief and pain that I still experience. After all, children are impressionable. The life that awaits a transgender child is a life of grief and pain, that is, if the child does genuinely have gender dysphoria. Indeed, it’s much more difficult these days to tell if a child does have real gender dysphoria or not. The rise of “rapid onset gender dysphoria”, or ROGD, is the result of the normalisation of transgenderism. ROGD, as opposed to traditional early onset gender dysphoria, which is what I have, has only appeared in the past decade in Western society, in which teenagers suddenly identify as transgender, without any typical childhood history of gender dysphoria. This out-of-the-blue phenomenon is cause for concern, and will only continue to pervade society as we continue to normalise transgenderism. This is all more the reason why Safe Schools and the like have to go. Whatever happened to the healthcare professional’s moral obligation to “first, do no harm”? Medical treatment should always be the last resort for treating children with alleged gender dysphoria, and I don’t take that position comfortably. As it turns out, I, a 20-something-year-old trans woman, genuinely have gender dysphoria since childhood, but it didn’t even become serious until my teenage years. My message to the adults who support Safe Schools: just because we may have had it hard growing up and beyond, it doesn’t make it right to pass the pain and grief onto our children. Our children are impressionable. They’re vulnerable. Why would we want them to go through with it early in life when none of that’s necessary? Let kids be kids, and as adults, we have a moral responsibility to ensure that. Libby DownUnder is an Australian video blogger on social media (mainly Facebook). She’s in her late twenties, and she transitioned to the female gender in her early twenties. https://www.spectator.com.au/2017/11/im-transgender-please-dont-normalise-trangenderism/ |
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Passing Through
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George
Christensen busts out spectre of paedos in Safe Schools war
Someone
at the same university where someone else developed an anti-bullying program
once wrote a completely abhorrent article. Think of the children! Josh
Taylor
Disappointed
by the government-commissioned review into anti-bullying program Safe
Schools, far-right conservative MP George Christensen fell back on one of the
oldest tricks in the homophobic playbook: an attempt to
conflate homosexuality with paedophilia. On
Tuesday night, a group of about 30 Coalition backbench MPs were given a
briefing from Professor Bill Louden, the man Education Minister Simon
Birmingham appointed to review the Safe Schools Coalition (SSC) program. Despite a month of campaigning from The
Australian and more than a year of attacks from
fringe religious groups such as the Australian Christian Lobby, the review is
reported to have suggested very few changes to the program. Birmingham
has yet to release the report publicly, but it is expected to be released with
a government response this week. But many Coalition MPs, including Christensen,
were unhappy with the positive review of the program. Some
called for Birmingham to suspend funding to the program or resign, and
Christensen himself said he was getting a majority of backbenchers to sign a
petition calling for a parliamentary review into the program. Using
parliamentary privilege, and then again on Sky News, Christensen
accused Gary Dowsett, a professor from La Trobe University, where the Safe
Schools program was created, of being a “long-time advocate of
intergenerational sex, otherwise known as paedophilia”, based on a 1982 article he wrote
in the journal Gay Information. Dowsett
has refused to comment on Christensen’s comments. But
Dowsett had nothing to do with the the Safe Schools Coalition, which was was
developed by Gay and Lesbian Health Victoria. Although he is assistant
director of La Trobe’s Australian Research Centre in Sex, Health & Society,
out of which SSC operates, he has never been involved in the program. According
to the centre’s website, the ARCSHS is involved in more
than 50 research programs on a wide range of sexual health issues,
including Safe Schools. Some of the
research is on hepatitis, rapid STI-testing services and street harassment. One
project Dowsett has worked
on is research on the mental and sexual health recovery for men who have
had prostate cancer. The Safe
Schools program is headed up by Roz Ward, the main subject of attacks
from The Australian and
Coalition MPs in the last month. The
closest link Dowsett appears to have to the program is signing a petition in
support of the program following the attacks on it. On Radio
National yesterday afternoon, Christensen also accused the program of linking
children to chat sites with “50-year-old men lurking”, and argued that
education on gender and sexuality issues should be left to parents. He
claimed the program was “brainwashing” and something from “communist
Russia”. Russia currently has strong laws against any education related to
homosexuality. Since the
review was launched by the government, 32 more schools have joined the program,
and just one has pulled out, leaving the program available at 526 schools
around Australia. https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/03/17/george-christensen-busts-out-spectre-of-paedos-in-safe-schools-war/ |
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Dr E
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It's because their brain is wired in a particular way, but they don't suffer from a psychiatric condition ... well, we know who does!
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cabosanlucas
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if anyone was unaware of pedo gary dawsett and his psycho misfits befind safe schools, pt has reminded you with a link.
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