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Headed to the G1 Breeder's Cup Turf (1 1/2 miles) @ Churchill Downs, Nov 3rd.

Currently some betting shops are offering 4/7on.


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Originally posted by Brudder_A Brudder_A wrote:

Headed to the G1 Breeder's Cup Turf (1 1/2 miles) @ Churchill Downs, Nov 3rd.

Currently some betting shops are offering 4/7on.




....and she won

Magical was runner up and they were both a long way ahead of the rest of the field.
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Winx has got nothing on Enable.

History made, first horse to do the Arc and Breeders double.

The hoodoo is broken, 8 have tried over 36 years.


Dettori was at his brilliant best.
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Enable is clearly a champion.

However to compare her and Winx is akin to comparing apples with oranges.
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At 2400m you would be arguably right.  At lesser distances, you cannot put up an argument that Enable is better than Winx.
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Originally posted by Enabled Enabled wrote:

Winx has got nothing on Enable.

History made, first horse to do the Arc and Breeders double.

The hoodoo is broken, 8 have tried over 36 years.


That's surprising, since the Breeder's Cup Turf is a second or third rate Arc. You would expect that if you can do leg one leg two should be easy. Only explanation I can think of is the races are too close and added to travel factor they can't back up.

Dettori was at his brilliant best.
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Probably the case with advances in logistics and science. The horse probably has its own private jet. Probably is why we have so many internationals in Cup these days.

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Enabled has to be pushed and pushed, a long way out.

Winx would be ambling alongside, jog trotting, hard held.
No horse in the world could match the cadence of Winx.
Enable doesnt do 14 footfalls every 5 seconds, its Winx that does.
And the heavier the going, the better the cadence of Winx.

It wouldnt matter who ran alongside Winx, on a scrap mudheap slogfest, Winx would just be happily skipping along hard held, running as straight as an arrow.
Enable would be disabled and get the wobbles.

Enable is a once in decade kind of horse.
Winx is a once in a century type of horse.
Big difference.

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The fact they just keep on winning makes them champions.

I wish my wives had been as reliable as WINX.
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Winx would struggle to beat the second horse Magical. Most improved horse in the world.
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Enabled you have a superstar and we have a superstar.  Leave it at that.  You don't know she would struggle to beat Magical.  THey race in different hemispheres.  And Enable went to USA so why didn't she come down to meet Winx in the Cox Plate?  I know which would of been a great thing for both countries.  Winx is a seven year old mare and won't travel.  Well Enable has now travelled so it would of been great to see her take on Winx.

Otherwise we know what we have.  A horse which has done times no other horse has over a distance who has travelled well over 10,000kilometers over the years back and forth between Sydney and Brisbane and Sydney and Melbourne.  She has gone in both directions, missed the start been trapped on the fence and always come from the second half of the field.  No easy task anytime.  But with that she has won consistently for 29 times.

Enable is truly a great mare who is making history.  We have one also.
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How could one distance Enable and Winx ever race?
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

How could one distance Enable and Winx ever race?


Over 2000m at Flemington.

Hope both don’t retire anytime soon. Enable was injured this year and had a limited prep. So to win the double 2nd and 3rd up is unbelievable.
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Should be a match race in 2019 Autumn.

Flemington.

2000m

Winx verses Enabled.
Prize $10 million to the winner.
Free entry into Flemington.

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No Flemington seems too hard of the overseas horses.  Randwick is more forgiving.  It's a known fact that Winx prefers Melbourne way so that helps Enabled also.
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It wouldn't have to be a match race either.  We have the Queen Elizabeth sitting there.  Hopefully The Autumn Sun can come out to play also.  Would be a bit of a downer if he beat both of them but we just have to trust that the mares will be in form and if that's the case even in the Autumn it would be hard for him.
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The Autumn Sun won (albeit very impressively) the worst Guineas I’ve seen. The horses that ran second and fourth in that race were well beaten in the Carbine- usually a level below. He’s promising, but wouldn’t mention him in the same breath as the other two.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Is that Chantilly ???
animals before people.
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Newmarket.

reductio ad absurdum
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Where abouts ? 
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Resumes on Saturday G1 Coral Eclipse at Sandown.
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Enable wins the Eclipse defeating Magical by about a length with Regal Reality in third place. Looked to be plenty of room for improvement.

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Good win by Enable. 2000m is not her distance but she did enough to win. Great horse.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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She’s certainly scared off the opposition - only 3 rivals in the G1 Yorkshire Oaks on Thursday.
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Originally posted by Lord Hybrow Lord Hybrow wrote:

She’s certainly scared off the opposition - only 3 rivals in the G1 Yorkshire Oaks on Thursday.


Could of run in Wednesday's G1 Juddmonte International but that's a little shorter in distance plus the boyz (Crystal Ocean, Japan, et al) would of been ganging up on her.

Hence easy pickings in the Oaks but don't be surprised if Magical gives Enable a bit of challenge.
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Enable toys with her opposition and wins by nearly 3 lengths over Magical.
Easy £240,000+ for the connections and Dettori gets anudder G1 win.
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She has a lovely profile also.  Very elegant mare who is supreme over there at the moment.
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The bookies have had their say on that ultimately deflating Arc de Triomphe. A Bookmakers.tv spokesperson said: “Enable fever allowed Waldgeist to go off at a huge price in the UK relative to his form and he’s saved British firms a record Arc payout by picking up the mare in the dying strides.

“However favourable the result for the trading departments of the bookmakers, it’s a huge anti-climax on what would have been a monumental day for racing. Another win for Frankie and Enable would have lead the news bulletins at a perfect time in the build up to Ascot’s Champions Day and this highlights the risks of a one-horserace marketing strategy in such an unpredictable sport.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2019/oct/06/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-enable-longchamp-hat-trick-live-frankie-dettori


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Every time the champs go around this can happen.  Why do you think most of us were on tenterhooks when Winx was racing.  We didn't want her to be beaten by a lesser horse than she was.  I feel for the connections as she is a marvellous mare.
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