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Whale
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subastral
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Now this is just too funny. Dr E criticises people for showing sympathy with the victims via social media and Cabo criticises because we are now saving our condolences for muslims on a bus, yet somehow they both agree and think they have made salient points.......You two truly are pathetic.
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cabosanlucas
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there ya go...it hasnt even happened and PT is defending the imaginary 2 muslims already. |
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Passing Through
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I dont get why you would say such a thing like it isn't a wrong thing to do. Do you do it?
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Second Chance
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they are saving up their condolences for the 2 muslims who will be abused on the bus. [/QUOTE] Cabo, repeating an earlier out of context comment from your good self does nothing for your argument here. Nor does the lazy "hypocritical" comment that you so much rely on when addressing others' opinions. Maybe time to make a better case rather than fall back on personal attacks or pointless repetition, irrespective of the validity or otherwise of your offerings? |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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I agree but we need to draw a line in the sand. Support those that are here, help them integrate with both caring and tough love. we also need to wise up and not bring anymore of them in......until things settle down |
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cabosanlucas
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im going on past instances reported in the media after a terrorist attack has occured. maybe some people just get really angry and irrational when a terrorist blows up little kids at a concert. so some people vent at strangers in public places. its wrong and misdirected anger. no, i dont do it. |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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That's well and good until they started murdering innocent people because of their religion or colour and the everyone will be screaming for America to step in and save those people |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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cabosanlucas
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id be looking at changing the law around the granting of australian citizenship for new migrants.
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Whale
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have no problem with that but will it make a difference, certainly not to home grown terrorists ? What changes would you make ? |
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cabosanlucas
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no, not much you can do with oz born nutters. but maybe have a clause where citizenship can be revoked with any acts related to terrorism. |
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Baguette
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Yes PT young men are vulnerable and lets face pretty stupid until the grow up and get some sense. I personally know a few who are going through the total idiot stage right now. The difference is none of them a likely to blow themselves up in a crowded place. And if I thought they were I'd do something about it! And yes the Spy agencies can infiltrate Mosques and the Muslim community but the point I'm trying to make is they shouldn't have to. The Muslim community should be eager to get the radical animals and their philosophy out of their community. It's in their best interest after all. Democracy is the best thing that has ever happened to ordinary people but gee if people are concerned and feel theyre concerns are not being recognised let alone acted on anything can happen. Look at the horror that is Donald Trump for gods sake! I think Australians have had enough of political correctness and the complete refusal to recognise the problem. I don't want to see Pauline Hanson or someone of her ilk ever get real power in this country, but I can really see it happening!Which would be a very bad thing indeed. |
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Einstein
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Actually going by reports, there were not muslims offering free rides home, it was sheiks (or however you spell it).
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Einstein
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A poll was done for Muslims in the UK, and only 32% would bother reporting anyone they feared was being radicalised. 54% did not want to intergrate to the UK life.
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Sworn Revenge
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And the Yanks should reply with " The Arab League are in a position to resolve the issues in their own region. We have learnt from our mistakes of the past and recognise that this is none of our business " |
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Sworn Revenge
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I think you are referring to Sikhs Einstein. The sheik was too busy sorting out James Cummings' Godolphin start date. |
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It's only called gambling when you lose
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cabosanlucas
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with 501 different interpretations of islam, good luck expecting the muslim community to clean out the radicals amongst them. what is a radical muslim??
just as a reminder, keysar trad said its ok to hit woman...and this goose is a moderate spokesperson for their community!!! how many sheikhs have said disgraceful, disgusting things, yet they are the leaders. the term 'radical' may not even exist amongst the islamic faith. radical to us is devout to them. other than knowing someone is googling how to make a bomb or buying chemicals from bunnings, i doubt they see any red flags. |
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acacia alba
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If the muslim community are happy to let keyser speak for them, what hope of integration ??
Not to mention the bloke who said white women are just meat. Who ask to be raped. Those brothers who raped the girls some years back now , in the Bankstown area. Their whole families supported them, told us ad nauseaum what good boys they were , even tho they got long sentences and were proven to have done the crimes. What hope of changing the mind set of these people with attitudes like that ??
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animals before people.
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Dr E
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"Known" extremists Remember the old saying? "It's always the one you don't see that gets ya!" Radical Islamic Terrorism ... it's like a cancer ... it's in their genes, it's in their teachings, it's part of the religion, it's their ideology, and it's just waiting for a trigger to set it off. There is no way to stop it, but you CAN keep it out of your country. Again, I'm begging you, someone, anyone, tell me about the country that is the great success story as a result of their Muslim Invasion ...
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Shammy Davis
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Of interest in Manchester, since the 2001 census, the Muslim population has increased by 127%. In 2001 the Muslim population was 66,000.
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Dr E
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This is the real problem, and the figures do not vary much in any western culture that is in the process of Islamic Invasion ... because it is what their religion teaches them ... lie to the faces of the infidels! ... and NOBODY wants to talk about it, least of all pussy footing politicians who could upset the most important voters in a marginal Western Sydney electorate, nor the Imams and other Muslim "leaders". Look at Pauline Hanson ... she is crucified and labelled a lunatic Islamophobe for simply asking for a conversation about Islam. Look at the Fake Sheikh - as the ABC and other left wing Islamic apologists have labeled him - Mohammad Tawhidi ... he is vilified, ridiculed and we are told that he is given too much credibility ... by Media Watch ... for pointing out that we need to be wary of radicalization, and that much of the teachings of the quoran are out of touch, designed for ignorant uneducated savages who were killing women as part of the culture 1000 + years ago, and simply not applicable to a modern society, and how it needs to be reformed, and how Muslims should be forced to integrate ... all deplorable and ridiculous thoughts, albeit quite logical! ... and then on top of that you have the "Muslims of Convenience and the practitioners of Taqiyyah, like Waleed, and Sam, and Yasmin, and Kayser, who condone and validate child sexual abuse, domestic violence, genital mutilation, polygamy, homophobia, etc, but claim we are simply misinterpreting what they and the quoran say ... because it's complicated!!! Who's being conned here?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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subastral
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Well, duh. |
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subastral
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So this guy was born in Britain, by all reports your average college educated, Man U loving young guy. Completely normal until he went to Libya with his family.
Why did he change? Why did he all of a sudden feel resentment to the country that took his parents in and gave him a chance at a great life? |
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Dr E
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... just like the story of the frog and the scorpion subbie ... it's in their nature.
If you don't know the story, look it up.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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subastral
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I don't think it was in his nature. I disagree with you.
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Dr E
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It is an ideology that is taught to them, it is ingrained in them, they have no ultimate allegiance to anything or anyone else, it is in their nature, and it is simply awaiting a trigger.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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subastral
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It isn't. You really think that represents over 1 billion people? I don't.
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