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Passing Through
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What about Obama?
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Dr E
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Wake up and smell the roses subbie ... anyone who can afford to get from the Middle East or Africa, and onto a boat to Australia is simply an economic refugee or a criminal. The true asylum seeker on Nauru or Manus is a figment of the left's imagination, they don't exist.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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What about Obama? ... was there a lynch mob baying for his blood at every minute of the day, with no evidence to support their claims? ... don't recall it, did we have fake news back then? ... still respected as the POTUS, and allowed to govern (sic) ... he was just a very ordinary leader, and that will be his legacy.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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I dont think he reported to the Kremlin though did he?
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Dr E
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Is there any evidence that he didn't? ... wouldn't matter anyway, we weren't at war with Russia then, unlike now!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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I think we were dirty on them when our Tones wanted to shirtfront Vlad.
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Dr E
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... oh that's right, I almost forgot World War III ... as I recall, Obama did nothing then either.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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cabosanlucas
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Yeah, their is. you just dont bother to acknowledge it. |
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cabosanlucas
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24 hrs after a horrific terrorist attack on little kids in manchester and your example of a disgusting human is dutton. noted. |
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Sworn Revenge
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The west decided a few decades ago that tough neighbourhoods ruled by hard men that kept their countries stable and free of radicalism wasn't the desired model for us, and decided to change them all. Terror groups were born out of these so called revolutions. On the money PT. Collective Western foreign policy in this region of insanity has contributed to the problems Europe is facing today. They throw billions of tax payer funded money to arm one side and hope they sort everything out. Sometimes if they're doing a bad job at it they'll step in or invent WMDs just to get their own troops on the ground. The moment it appears it might be coming to an end one side will say thank you for the weapons and the training now get the fiddlesticks out and never come back. Ultimately the West leave it in a far worse state than when Hussain or Al Assad were firmly in power and creates this vacumn for whackos to take over and for remaining people alive to despise the West even more than they had previously. Disaffected youth and young men of Middle Eastern background living in the West then have a cause celebre to feed on. Throw in some whack job clerics, add a bit of ISIS social media marketing and voila you have a ready made radical itching to blow themselves to kingdom come. Leave the Middle East and its problems to the people whom live within it!!!! The West will always be occupiers in their eyes never saviours. It is ludicrous to continue to be involved. Use the funding saved from engaging and arming to improve homeland security. Improve technology so ISIS can't feed the vulnerable through social media. Be it cultural, ideology, tribal, religious, etc etc this region have been slaughtering each other for centuries and will long continue to do so with or without Western input. |
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JudgeHolden
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Unfortunately I can see the West making another big mistake here:
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/22/opinions/trump-iran-middle-east-andleman-opinion/index.html |
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subastral
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Sorry, what??? That is by far the stupidest comment of yours, and its an amazing list. You are allowed to talk about 10 different things in multiple threads, but I must only discuss Manchester.......you absolute weirdo......
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Second Chance
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Consider yourself fortunate Subbie. At least you weren't called out as a "hypocrite".
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A couple of things -
Yes Islam has always been split into (literally) warring factions since day dot. There's a reason why it was stupid for western govts to try to democratize the Middle East - it just won't work. You can't paper over hundreds of years of sectarian feuds and bitterness by killing people, creating power vacuums and installing puppet governments. And there's another type of vacuum that the media and academics are afraid to even acknowledge, let alone talk about out loud - a moral and cultural vacuum in the "enlightened" west. The average westerner doesn't think about how decadent and wishy washy our culture has become in the last half a century or so. In fact they celebrate it. Islam provides people who don't like materialistic/ relativist/ egoist culture with a steady foundation and a prefabricated "identity" and sense of purpose. Ironically, the more pluralistic, "tolerant" and "free" the western cultures get, the more young muslims living in them will feel justified in radical ways of thinking. Especially in the age of the internet, where they can connect with others in the same boat. There's a reason why pop concerts and secular celebrations are targeted by these radicals, why western girls are gang raped etc. A lot of muslims regard the western culture as evil, and don't want a bar of it. (Even in Catholicism there has been a rise in the last few decades of what's called the "rad trad" type. They are usually insecure, insular, outsider types who are obsessed with the internet and obscure, backwards-looking ideas and practices. They can talk some pretty radical gelati too.) There's lots of other factors, but that's 2 of the least talked about ones. So called racism and islamophobia are talked about as reasons behind the radicalised muslim youth problem, but in reality it's probably the other way round - THEY don't like US, and they simply don't want to adopt our ways. I don't mean that about all muslims or even most, but the problem is there for a lot of them, to different degrees, and maybe it would help if islamic spokespeople were honest about it. As for "pushing back", I can't see it doing much good. Just adds fuel to the fire. |
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again and again it happens, stroke his massive ego and he will do anything The Trump administration, seduced by an effusive Saudi welcome -- in sharp contrast to anything provided his predecessor, Barack Obama -- may be taking the wrong road. |
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subastral
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Its not even a western v islam thing, Stayer. They have bombed weddings in Pakistan. Might help if old mate Allah, or even Mo, came down and said, hey turdbrains, you aint getting up here by blowing people up and there aint no virgins left for you neither. Maccamax has beaten you all here...... |
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djebel
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I would not say no to sitting on the sidelines watching a war between Atheists and Religious fruitloops of all persuasions.
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reductio ad absurdum
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oneonesit
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We should have banned them from coming here years ago. For every good one their is a dodgy one. Just stop it now before it gets any worse.
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Dr E
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My dear old Dad, blue collar worker, ALP voter, western suburbs boy, seems to have had the answer 50 years ago ...
"Bloody mad Arabs! ... they should just blow up the lot of them!".
Trouble now is, we need to send half a million home first ... I'll pay for the first 20 one way tickets ... who's with me!? |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Whale
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explains a lot about you |
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subastral
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Happy to buy a one way ticket for you, Dr. Save you the money for the others.
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cabosanlucas
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we are in an islamic terror thread, with the manchester terrorist act and kids slaughtered the most recent example, yet the ONE thing that has infuriated you is a lying politician in australia. its quite clear to all....you sjw are fake dregs with the most appalling priorities. |
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Dr E
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hmmm ... right on queue, a lot of sympathy for the evil terrorists here, but still no solutions from the virtue signalling leftards ... sounds so familiar!
Have you all changed your facebook pages to say We stand with Manchester" and applied your rainbowfilters? Well done, problem solved!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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subastral
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Just replying to yours and AA's claims of what is and isn't reality. She brought up Dutton, I am allowed to respond. that's how discussion forums go.
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Dr E
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Come on guys ... I'm STILL waiting to be educated about all of the success stories of Islamic Migration ... you start subbie, you claim they are all legitimate ...
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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cabosanlucas
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they are saving up their condolences for the 2 muslims who will be abused on the bus. priorities. the real victims here. thats club sjw cult rules. |
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subastral
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Can't stand meaningless hashtags and thoughts and prayers tweets. Much like I cant stand you saying that people doing such a thing implies there is sympathy for terrorists. So far, your solution has been blow them up or send them home. Good luck on the blowing them all up. Don't think you will find one bleeding heart leftie that is against deporting known extremists, but that's not your end game and that's where we differ. |
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Whale
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no I have a lot of sympathy for the Manchestyer vicrims but there is a limit to the well. I used up a lot of it on victims of pervy Catholic proiests |
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Passing Through
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Why would you want to abuse two people on a bus regardless of what religion they are or aren't? Cause that's what you do?
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