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Gee these trainers are really planning ahead for a $10 million race day.
Who is making these arrangements? Last year Weir had one scratched after flying to Brisbane for a big race, because the stable hand was asleep and missed the horse float to the race with the horse. Or some similar stuff up.

I would hate to see them trying to run a company in the business world.
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They get bumped from planes because of freight - mainly Australia Post.

Out of control of the trainers, it all depends on how much mail has to get on the plane, and that takes precedence over a horse unfortunately
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Weir hires the services of Air Horse Australia and Chris Calthorpe to manage his equine travel arrangements. However, the problem runs deeper than one may first think.

Calthorpe handles the flying arrangements for many trainers, including those going to Perth and New Zealand. Usually, it goes without a hitch, but crowded freight flights are making it difficult.

Qantas freight flights depart Tullamarine airport at 1:20am on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday each week.

Calthorpe has made arrangements to have Weir's eight travelling horses booked on those flights. However, these horses are only on standby and there is nothing more that Calthorpe or Weir can do to confirm the spots.

Qantas will agree to tentatively book up to three horses on each flight. All of Weir's eight horses are therefore able to be put on standby but that does not guarantee they will actually travel.

Due to contractual agreements with freight operators, including Star Track Express and Australia Post, Qantas cannot lock in spots on these flights so because the equine freight is on standby, it can be as late as 10pm - just hours before - that horses will be bumped off the flight.

Horses will often have left Warrnambool and even arrived at Tullamarine before their travel arrangements have to be changed.

Weir and his fellow trainers do not consider Qantas' competitors TNT and Virgin because they are unable to confirm places for horses ahead of their flights and do not entertain the idea of putting them on standby.
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Companies like Australia Post have contractual agreements for a significant amount of cargo that includes 'next-day guarantee' obligations, so commercially it makes a lot more sense for Qantas to look after these businesses because they are provide far more value than flying a horses for only a select few weeks of the year.

Horses are big and heavy, with some weighing in above 550kg, and they take up a considerable amount of cargo space on a flight. They need a large area for their body, and their head sticks out of the box. The space required is considerable.

Further complicating these issues can be weather and maintenance. If there is any disruption to cargo services, horses are usually the first kicked off the flight given the difficulties they can create.

Nobody is more frustrated by this more than Calthorpe.

"It's bad for business. For everyone," Calthorpe said. "Where we sit at the moment, we've booked spots on every flight this week. Yet, I've got no idea what's going on and how it'll happen. It's out of my control."

Making matters worse is a Department of Trade regulation that prevents Calthorpe from seeking a viable international airline to carry out the task. With TNT and Virgin not accepting the cargo, Calthorpe and Weir are left to go to the Australian-owned Qantas, despite the unreliable nature of the business.
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Yes Yes Yes arrived in QLD yesterday
Walked off the float lame so won’t be running
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Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

Yes Yes Yes arrived in QLD yesterday
Walked off the float lame so won’t be running

What a surprise. Maybe Weir should plan better
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Originally posted by Batman Batman wrote:

Originally posted by crooked_gambler crooked_gambler wrote:

Yes Yes Yes arrived in QLD yesterday
Walked off the float lame so won’t be running

What a surprise. Maybe Weir should plan better


How can you plan better? Did you read the scenario above?
We need a more reliable airline service.
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It only looks bad on Weir if you don't understand the situation.

Crooked gambler is spot on.....rooted.
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