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cabosanlucas
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Are you saying the leftist education system is producing political left leaning young voters stayer? i read a short piece in the guardian today where the writer asks 'why schools dont teach kids about politics' . the young dont generally vote (her point was because they feel uninformed in the whole political scene and dont bother) . but it was interesting...3 hrs later im reading a bunch of stuff thanking young voters for turning up and voting...it was them that made the difference. It was weird all round. lots of different parts are moving these days in politics. |
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Passing Through
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There isn't a single issue, but it was jobs, wages, standard of living and other more ideological things that appeal to younger people that he articulated in a less political manner to them. May followed the Crosby Textor script (reluctantly), and was seen as even a toxic politician young people are rejecting everywhere.
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stayer
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Is that a serious question?? The schools and unis are churning out young socialists, because socialists dominate the education (even tertiary) system. Socialism is all about the state over individuals, and "education" is always one of the main ways of making that vision happen. Nothing new in that - that's how socialism works since day dot. |
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cabosanlucas
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also note the very similar rhetoric used by corbyn and shorten -
the milionaires v the working class. |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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AS opposed to the looney left |
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stayer
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It's crazy - May is not anywhere near the "loony right" and Corbyn is almost a cardboard cut out of the "loony left." |
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Passing Through
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Then why did they flee the conservatives today?
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stayer
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The older people as a protest against another useless leader, and the young people as Che Guevarra and Katy Perry fans.
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scamanda
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I think you're all guessing. IMO it was the terror attacks of late which were highlighted by the media along with their calls and questions on May's ability to protect them. The left leaning left media decide most elections around the civilised world but gets the boot in countries where they go over the top like the US and Australia. Ask Pauline and Donald.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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cabosanlucas
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it was a serious question, i was suspicious of that (socialist ed) especially as ive read similar 'complaints' elsewhere. i look at what daughter learns, esp with projects, and i can see the bent. I just wasnt too sure. either way...i dont think its anything radical. not yet anyway. does it ramp up as the years progress - eg from primary school to yr 12? |
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stayer
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No mate, the terror attacks would have zero effect on the young indoctrinated voters. Plus if anyone voted on that, it would be for May, not Corbyn. |
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stayer
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It's pretty bad even in primary schools, and yes it gets progressively worse. |
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cabosanlucas
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i will keep an eye on it, its interesting. |
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stayer
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It's not "interesting" - it's a fact, and it's not good!
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scamanda
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Ummm, in the 90s I had 3 boys in high school in Qld. The things I remember were when they were all educated on how to fill in a dole form, were told they should ignore their parents on most topics (even though the education department blamed the parents for the lack of education of children) and to not just blindly believe they were heterosexual, in fact they were told to explore their sexuality. Good luck.
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Second Chance
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If schools are run by socialists and ipso facto turn out even more of their own kind, why is it that elections more often than not are determined by 2 or 3 percentage points? Particularly, in addition, as elderly voters are decreasing as a percentage of the voting population.
And don't give me any bulldust about students ultimately realising the error of their ways. Over to whoever.
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cabosanlucas
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i'l see how it plays out. i dont mind a socialist mindset as long as its not rammed down your throat every day of the week and debatable or contentious issues are treated as such...and not a reason to make an enemy of anyone who doesnt agree with their position. when it becomes ideology and a set political position...they can get stufffed. you know the issues, the obvious ones. As a parent, i will act as a counter weight anyway. so at this stage, its interesting more than 'not good'. |
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Passing Through
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A little bit leftie, like a little bit pregnant?
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stayer
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You said yhat out loud, PT? |
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stayer
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Because there is no dichotomy between choices these days - they're all "centrists". They all like a mix between capitalism and communism. |
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scamanda
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I'll have a crack at it. Just for the heck of it. I could point out that the uni student of today is more against than for most left leaning ideals, at least in Brisbane. Believe it or not. So the more educated students are in fact aware that the pull from the left should be considered but ultimately ignored. Those that are not so bright blindly believe whatever they are told. And so we are left with the same percentage. |
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Exactly. "Youth indoctrination" is a facile argument. If there any real truth to it progressive governments in the west would be far more successful than they currently are. This result says far more about the volatility of current electorates in a rapidly moving media/political landscape. Large, sudden swings the new reality.
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stayer
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Yeah the young always question the old, and there's a trend among the young to call out the BS they have been taught. Still the same thing though - young people not having a clue really. |
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stayer
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Wow there's a sentence in there that says a lot. |
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Second Chance
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Sorry Stayer, there's actually eight sentences there that say a lot.
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stayer
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Seven that are true, and one that "says a lot" about the bias of the poster. Who"s teaching comprehension these days? |
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cabosanlucas
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fair dinkum? Ohh geez...i hope the kids escaped the bs. |
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JudgeHolden
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Geez stayer, don't keep us in suspense. Not for the first time I'm left wondering..what do you want to say?
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cabosanlucas
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its great being able to navigate your way through a political spectrum, in particular social issues...finding what you agree with and what you dont. and not be such a misfit that you have to pigeon hole yourself into a cult ideology and go along with the like minded misfit crowd. try it one day. its free. |
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cabosanlucas
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Lol, i was going to ask the same question...if socialists are indoctrinating the ed system from start to finish...why havent we got a population (minus the aged) of socialists?...voting for parties closest to socialism, henceforth the libs never get a look in.
ive seen the answers thus far...nothing definitive. jury out?? |
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