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Sister Dot
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This is why I enjoy the forums, so many ways of looking at things?. Really gives a lot of food for thought.
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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Trialling tomorrow
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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1 - 8:15AM GROUP 1 & GROUP 2 TRIAL (COURSE PROPER) (800 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Horse Trainer ALIZEE James Cummings D’ARGENTO Chris Waller INVINCIBLE STAR Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott LIBRAN (IRE) Chris Waller LUVALUVA (NZ) John Sargent PIERATA Gregory Hickman SINGLE BULLET Gary Portelli SINGLE GAZE Chris Waller SUPER TOO Marc Conners UNFORGOTTEN Chris Waller |
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Not likely to learn too much tomorrow.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Underground
Champion Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Location: Sydn Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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Kathy O Hara will be the deciding factor as to whether the horse is right or not. Everyone still upset?
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anabel
Champion Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Location: VIC Status: Offline Points: 1521 |
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I’m not sure, but it’s certainly a clever move by Waller to put the onus on her. |
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18736 |
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More pressure here than on Luke Nolen when riding the Caviar at Ascot, or Bowman on Winx, or Boss on the Diva etc.
This has to be one of the most high pressure trial rides in history! |
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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Race 1 - 8:15AM GROUP 1 & GROUP 2 TRIAL (COURSE PROPER) (800 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4 Time: 0:45.63 Last 600m: 0:32.90 Timing Method: Electronic INTERIM RESULTS Color Finish No. Horse Trainer Jockey Margin Bar. Weight Penalty Starting Price 1 3 INVINCIBLE STAR Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Ms Rachel King 0 2 9 SUPER TOO Marc Conners Ms Winona Costin 0.1L 0 3 6 PIERATA Gregory Hickman James McDonald 3.9L 0 4 2 D’ARGENTO Chris Waller Hugh Bowman 12.4L 0 5 1 ALIZEE James Cummings Jason Collett 14L 0 6 5 LUVALUVA (NZ) John Sargent Kerrin McEvoy 14.8L 0 7 8 SINGLE GAZE Chris Waller Ms Kathy O'Hara 17.5L 0 8 11 PATRICK ERIN (NZ) Chris Waller Jay Ford 17.7L 0 9 4 LIBRAN (IRE) Chris Waller Lee Magorrian 19.3L 0 |
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Not asked for any effort.
D'Argento trialled brilliantly. He is a tip top horse who will not be managed at all well this spring as he will be aimed at "stallion" races rather than what he should be aimed at. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Passing Through
Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Location: At home Status: Offline Points: 79532 |
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mowie
Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: echuca flyer! Status: Offline Points: 5210 |
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haha another one waller has improved group class to being lappedjust pull the pin. loads to be made at stud. Why both racing on OZ racing/breeding needs mares like her ,
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chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 51994 |
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Hahah............how often do Wallers' win or place in trials?
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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It’s a trial, absolutely no pressure.
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45716 |
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They ran 45.63 seconds so the trial was seriously quick. Waller would've been more than happy for the mare to run 47.5 tops at this stage of her prep.
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21821 |
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Totally agree fwiw, just a walk in the park for her, he will go whichever way she tells it imo.
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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No point in sending a supposedly cooked horse out to break records in a 800m trial
Serious horse the winner Invincible Star.
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Second trial only fair or is that harsh? Times were solid enough.
Unforgotten was forgettable although she's early in her training.
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crooked_gambler
Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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Can’t be reading to much into early August trials imo.
Plenty of fish to fry in a couple of months. |
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Agree. Wasn't a bad trial - certainly not like Aloisia's before she resumed in Feb.
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speedingaway
Champion Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Location: Carlton Status: Offline Points: 632 |
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I was a bit surprised she wasn't entered for the Cox Plate. Has better form credentials than many locals in the noms.
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Sister Dot
Premium Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 4952 |
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Hasn’t she been sold to Japan? |
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Bagman
Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4082 |
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Yes.
Apparently for 'breeding purposes'. Not required until January 1 , for said services however. I am yet to have heard such a claim from an owner based in the Nthn Hemisphere. Unless , of course , she's in foal now. As January 1 in Japan is our August 1. Curious , wouldn't you say? |
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I don't have one
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acacia alba
Champion Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Status: Offline Points: 41479 |
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She was sold off ages ago. When she was "retired " from the tracks here , Off to japan. ( but she trialled on Monday ) she was, supposedly,, off to Japan to breed. Read back thru this entire thread,,,, And it gets stranger and stranger,, |
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animals before people.
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45716 |
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As Bagman infers, she was sold after the NH breeding season had completed, so had to wait until February-March 2019 before being bred to NH time.
Under those circumstances I can fully understand the new owners attempting to give her a preparation in Australia this Spring.
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Bagman
Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4082 |
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It's curious. She should have been covered , foaled to Sth Hemi time , THEN , cover to Nthn time. Sure the 1 st foal would be sent back (with Japanese Melb Cup entries?) but you wouldn't have missed a beat.
Now she will be set for Cups or Mares races , quarantine , injections etc go North (January) Japan only requires 7 days min for Q, then it's hormone treatment , lights etc etc no cover til , as Second Chance stated , Late February to March -I reckon late- and then 11-12 mths later foal..... rinse Repeat Curious |
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I don't have one
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Bagman
Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4082 |
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How about this... I'll ask her former trainer any questions , within reason , you may have and report back to you.
Genuine questions. Doesn't have to be about Single Gaze. In fact , the less about her might be safer for yours truly |
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Bagman
Champion Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 4082 |
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Anyone? Genuine offer and Nicks agreed to it.
If the Mayor accepts it , I'm hoping it'll be on the home page. Nom de plumes are fine for questions. It's a good start for those who may want to know things like ..hours worked , travel , first winner , fave jockey, feeds , spells etc etc I'm keen to know his feed bill or choice thereof. Does he punt? Why does my trainer charge for dental work every -expletive deleted- months. 😀 Over to you , interview/coffee by Thursday next. 😀 |
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I don't have one
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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What's the best horse (potentially or otherwise) in his stable?
Which of his can we follow in the next few weeks?
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crooked_gambler
Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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You’re 15 years old and joined Tbv as a 5yo
Seems legit |
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VSP.
Premium Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 8337 |
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Baggy was here earlier than that - Feb 2007 was the changeover from the old forums, so that's the oldest date here but quite a few current members pre-date that. Baggy was a very precocious child, famous for dummy spits but we forgave him as he was still in the cradle.
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