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    Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 11:29am
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Definitely not, Gay!
 
Colomano is still racing as 4 year old (NH), after he recovered from his injury. This season he managered 3 placings, 2. Hansa Preis (Hamburg) Gr. 2, 2. Gerling Preis (Cologne) Gr. 2, 4. Gr. Preis d. Badischen Wirtschaft, Gr.2 (Baden Baden - Iffezheim).
 
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Originally posted by DssZou DssZou wrote:

Is Colomano good enough to win group races going forward?



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Is Colomano good enough to win group races going forward?

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Hello,
here the Finish of the last German Classic race the "St. Leger"
 
1) Oriental Eagle (Campanologist-Oriental Pearl by Big Shuffle) Fam. 4-i Roseliere
    4x5 Raise a Native, 5x5 Native Dancer, Sire 2x3 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev
2) Moonshiner (Adlerflug-Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe
    3x4 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives
3) Khan (Santiago-Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwürde
    3x5 Surumu, dam 4x4 Reliance, sire Santiago-Highest Honor 4x4x5x5x5x5 FB/FS Nasrullah/Rivaz +  3/4 relative Royal Charger
 
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Hello,
the last "German Claasic" will be run next Weekend.
 
133. German St. Leger, 2800 meter, Group 3, Dortmund, Sunday 17.9.17:
 
Moonshiner (Adlerflug-Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe
3x4 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives
 
Shadow Sadness (Soldier Hollow-Shadow Queen by Lando) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
4x5 Shirley Heights, 5x5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, damsire 3x3 Literat/Liberty
 
Sound Check (Lando-Sky Dancing by Exit to Nowhere) Fam. 5-h
no inbreeding, Sire 3x3 Literat/Liberty, damsire Exit to Nowhere, dam 3x3 Almahmoud
 
Stamford Raffles (GB)(Champs Elysees-Romantic Retreat by Rainbow Quest) Fam. 22-a Athasi
3x5 Blushing Groom, 4x5 High Line
 
Eagle Eyes (Adlerflug-Evening Breeze by Surumu) Fam. 23 Arctic Melody
no inbreeding, Sire 3x4 ND, 4x4 Mill Reef, dam 3x4 Reliance
 
Near England (Lord of England-Near Galante by Galileo) Fam. 4-r Nella da Gubbio
no inbreeding, dam 3x3 ND
 
Summershine (IRE)(Three Valleys-Sulamith by Acatenango) Fam. 16-d Shahinaaz
4x5 ND, 4x5 Reliance
 
Khan (Santiago-Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwürde
3x5 Surumu, dam 4x4 Reliance, sire Santiago-Highest Honor 4x4x5x5x5x5 FB/FS Nasrullah/Rivaz + 3/4 relative Royal Charger
 
Oriental Eagle (Campanologist-Oriental Pearl by Big Shuffle) Fam. 4-i Roseliere
4x5 Raise a Native, 5x5 Native Dancer, Sire 2x3 Sadlers Wells/Nireyev
 
Alicante (Lando-Annouche by Unfuwain) Fam. 7-f Adria
no inbreeding, Sire 3x3 Literat/Liberty
 
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Hello, Djebel,
I don't think so.
 
Adlerflug (by In the Wings) is from the Alveole Family and his Granddam Alya is a FS of Allegretta and he is bred 4x4 Mill Reef and his dam sire is Last Tycoon.  Adlerflug was Champion 3 year old in Germany. His dam Aiyana I remember, because she was a very good  juveline runner, but couldn't keep her promise as 3 year old. Adlerflug himself won the German Derby (2400 meter), Deutschland Preis (2400 meter), both have a Group I Status, 2. Grosser Preis von Baden (twice) , Group I (2400 meter), 3, Prix Ganay (France), Hansa Preis.
 
He stood at first at the "Harzburg Stud", but was later transferred to the "Schlenderhan Stud" near Cologne. His fee is 12.000 Euros (2016).
 
He is the Sire of Iquitos, Tusked Wings (btw 3x3 Allegretta/Alya and just ran a 4thplaced in the German Oaks), Ito (Sire), Meergorl, Savoir Vivre (2. German Derby 2017), Shivajia , Lacazar (winner German Oaks), Moonshiner, Wunder, Swacadelic, Nordic Flight etc.
 
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Have we discussed the pedigree of Adlerflug before ?
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Hello,
here is the result of the "German Oaks":
 
1) Lacazar (Adlerflug-Laey Diamond by Dai Jin) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples
    3x4 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, 4x4 Shirley Heights, 5x5x5 Mill Reef, 4x5x5x5 ND
2) Megera (FR)(Motivator-Mantissa by Oratorio) Fam. 1-c Raker
   4x5 ND
3) Wuheida (GB)(Dubawi-Hibaayeb by Singspiel) Fam. 9-c Mumtaz Mahal
    4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x5 Shirley Heights, 5x5 Sunbittern, 5x5x5 ND
 
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Hello,
sorry, I forgot one starter:
 
Alicante (Lando - Annouche by Unfuwain) Fam. 7-f Adria, Helmet
No inbreeding, Sire 3x3  FB/FS Literat/Liberty
 
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Hello,
the next German "Classic"  is run on Sunday, this time for the Ladies.
 
Preis der Diana (German Oaks), 2200 meter, Group 1, Dusseldorf, Sunday 6.8.17:
 
Wuheida (GB)(Dubawi-Hibaayeb by Singspiel) Fam. 9-c Mumtaz Mahal
4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x5 Shirley Heights, 5x5 Sunbittern, 5x5x5 ND
 
Lacazar (Adlerflug-Laey Diamond by Dai Jin) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples
3x4 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, 4x4 Shirley Heights, 5x5x5 Mill Reef, 4x5x5x5 ND
 
Tusked Wings (Adlerflug-Tucana by Acatenango) Fam. 9-h Alveole
3x3 Alya/Allegretta, Sire 3x4 ND, 4x4 Mill Reef
 
Well Spoken (Soldier Holloow-Well American by Bertrando) Fam. 4-o Kincsem
5x5 Nijinsky, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell
 
Diana Storm (Soldier Hollow-Divya by Platini) Fam. 18 Conniver
4x4 ND, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, dam 4x4 Red God
 
Ashiana (Mastercraftsman-Ashantee by Areion) Fam. 1-m
no inbreeding, Sire 4x4 ND, Granddam 3x3 Mill Reef
 
Megera (FR)(Motivator-Mantissa by Oratorio) Fam. 1-c Raker
4x5 ND
 
Navaro Girl (IRE)(Holy Roman Emperor-Neele by Peintre Celebre) Fam. 4-r Nella da Gubbio
4x4x4 ND, 5x5x5x5 Natalma
 
Litaara (Wiener Walzer-Linton Bay by Funambule) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples
5x5 Primera
 
Pemina (Soldier Hollow-Princess Lala by Royal Dragon) Fam. 9-e Zariba
4x5 ND, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell
 
Prima Violetta (IRE)(Areion-Power Penny by Galileo) Fam. 13-a Princess Margaret
4x5x5 ND
 
Shy Angel (GB)(Zamindar-Shy Lady by Kaldoun) Fam. 21-a Shy Dancer
no inbreeding
 
Sky full of Stars (Kendargent-Sworm Mum by Samum) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
no inbreeding, Sire 3x4 Kalamoun
 
Gondora (Soldier Hollow-Gondola by Lando) Fam. 1-i Glenayes
5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, Damsire 3x3 Literat/Liberty
 
Allegro Lady (Santiago-Adelma by Sternkönig) Fam. 7 Anmut
4x4 Kalamoun
 
 
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Hello,
sorry I forgot to write this is the run in of 148. German Derby!
 
The winner Windstoss was bred by the Röttgen Stud, situated on the outskirts of Cologne. Btw, the last Derby winner of the Stud was Uomo in 1959!
 
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1)Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem
   3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane
2) Enjoy Vijay (Nathanial - Enjoy The Life by by Medicean) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
    3x4 Sadlers Wells, 4x5 Mr. Prospector, 4x5x5 ND, Sire 4x4 Nearctic, ND/Icecapade                            Nearctic/Native Dancer cross, 4x5 Hail to Reason, 5x5x5 Nearco, dam 5x5x5 Natalma
3) Rosenpurpur (Por  Moi - Rosenreihe by Catcher in the Rye) Fam1-e Ierne
    3x4 Darshaan, 4x4x5x5 ND
 
Colomano was unfortunately unplaced, because he came out of the race with a bleeding hoof, either he kicked himself or was kicked by another horse.
 
Langtang was non starter.
 
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Lope De Vega got one runner by Galileo.

That will spark the interest of Sir Gov / Whitto / ????
can't think of his other name as his filly was on that cross.

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Hello,
the the great day is near, the "German Derby".
 
148. Deutsches Derby (only Colts/Fillies), 2400 meter, Group I, Hamburg, Sunday 02.07.17, 15:40 MET:
 
Colomano (GB)(Cacique-Codera by Zilzal) Fam. 4-f Crape Band
4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma, Cacique - Danehill 3x3 Natalma
 
Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem
3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane
 
Langtang (Campanologist-La Vinchina by Oasis Dream) Fam. 9-e Love In, Zariba
4x5x5 ND, Sire 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev
 
Northsea Star (Sea the Stars - North Queen by Desert King) Fam. 4-r Nella Da Gubbio
4x4 Danzig, 5x5x5 ND
 
Warring States (JPN)(Victoire Pisa - Ciliege by Sakura Bukoshin O) Fam. 18 Manto
No inbreeding, Sire 3x4 Halo, the damsire traces in the male stirp to Tesco Boy, a close
relative of Surumu
 
Enjoy Vijay (Nathaniel - Enjoy The Life by Medicean) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
3x4 Sadlers Wells, 4 x 5 Mr. prospector, 4x5x5 ND; Sire 4x4 Nearctic, ND/Icecapade Nearctic/Native Dancer cross, 4x5 Hail to Reason, 5x5x5 Nearco; Dam 5x5x5 Natalma
 
Monreal (IRE)(Peintre Celebre - Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe
2x4 Nureyev, damsire 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone
 
Kastano (Nathanial - Kastila by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-b Contessa Oleanda
no inbreeding
 
Ming Jung (FR)(Kallisto-Muriel by Fath) Fam. 13-c Natasha
no inbreeding, dam 4x4 Sir Gaylord
 
Shanjo (Soldier Hollow - Shivara by Monsun) Fam. 5-d Safety
Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, dam 3x4 Dschingis Khan, damsire Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone
 
Amun (Soldier Hollow - Albula by Dashing Blade) Fam. 2-n Alex
4x4 Shirley Heights, 4x4 Kris, 4x5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, 3x5x5 ND
direct damline Alpenkonig (German Derby Winner)
 
Parviz (IRE)(Lope de Vega - Sur Choix by Galileo) Fam. 13-c Frizette
5x5x 5 Mr. Prospector, Sire 3x3 Machiavellian, dam 3 x 3 Almahmoud
 
Sargas (IRE)(Shirocco - Servenya by Dashing Blade) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
4x5 ND, Sire Shirocco - Monsun 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone FB/BS
 
Rosenpurpur (Pour Moi - Rosenreihe by Catcher in the Rye) Fam. 1-e Ierne
3x4 Darshaan, 4x4x5x5 ND
 
Oriental Khan (Campanologist - Oriental World by Platini) Fam. 4-i  Rose Bowl
no inbreeding, Sire 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev or 4x4 Special
 
Khan (Santiago - Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde
3x5 Surumu, 4x5 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, dam 4x4 Reliance
Fam. of Kamsin (German Derby Winner), Konigsstuhl (Germany's only "Triple Crown Winner")
 
Promise of Peace (JPN)(King Kamehameha - Peace of World by Sunday Silence) Fam. 4-d Basse Terre
5x5x5 ND
 
Gepard (Soldier Hollow - Golden Time by Surumu) Fam. 1-a Grave and Gay
No inbreeding, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, 3x5x 5 ND, dam 3x4 Birkhahn, 5x5 Ticino
Fam. of Gereon, Girolamo, Give Me Five
 
Sternkranz (Kamsin - Sternstunde by Sir Warren) Fam. 5-d Safety
5x5 Top Ville, Sire 3x4 Surumu, 5x5 Birkhahn, 4x4 Sadlers Wells, dam 4x4 Reliance
Direct damline Star Appeal, Sternkonig
 
The runners are listed in the order of their GAG (= Handicap mark until June)
 
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Lots of good points Mumtaz but it really it a mystery.  Sepoy's family aren't temperamental on the whole but maybe he's just mixed better with a different mare population.  Like Galileo who is so superior in Europe and didn't produce much in Australia.  I wouldn't of thought the mare base was that different as most performing lines here are also overseas so maybe it is also the different training Technics.  Some of their Newmarket and Chantilly areas in particular are really an eye opener for training horses.  Mind you you also see many of the ones sent over for the Cup with two handlers so quite a few of their horses might be hot under the collar and they just have different ways of managing the problems.
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The main reason I can think or re Helmet's relative non performance in Australia is that he was a fiery racehorse on his day (like most day's) and possibly he is passing that on to his progeny.  Thunder Snow is obviously a hot horse.  Again, possibly the training in the UK which involves less work on the race tracks themselves, and more work on long stretches working with others in a calmer situation might suit their temperaments better.  UK trainers might just be putting less pressure on them. 

There are a lot of might's here and I never noticed that Sepoy was as temperamental as Helmet.  Maybe it is just that the 2YO and early 3YO competition in Australia with more early maturer's is just tougher.
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Yes Furious, I typed in Unforgetable instead of Unforgetable Filly.  Embarrassed
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Hi Second Choice Bloodhound has 7 starts 2 wins 3 seconds 1 third including the 6th 1000 Guineas.  Not up to date yet with the German race.  Maybe you missed a letter in the name.  What is is about the Helmets (he had another stakes winner yesterday also and the Sepoys.  We just can't get them going here.
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Hello,
here is the result of the "German 1000 Guineas":
 
1) Unforgetable Filly (GB)(Sepoy - Valiani by Oasis Dream) Fam. 3-d Native Street
    4x4 Danzig, 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x4x4x4 ND, 5x5 Sir Ivor
2) Peace in Motion (US)(Hat Trick - Peace Royale by Sholokhov) Fam. 12-b Phebe
    No inbreeding
3) Arazza (Areion - Aloe by Lomitas) Fam. 9-h Alveole
    4x4 Nijinsky, 5x5x5 ND, 3rd dam Alya, FS Allegretta
 
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Thanks Ticino, Bloodhound didn't have any performances for her.

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Hello, Second Chance
according the German Racing paper "Sportwelt, she started already as 2 year old, was Sixth in the "English 1000 Guineas" and won a Listed Race (1400 meters).Aas 2 year old : 4 starts, 3 wins, 1 placing, 3 year old: 3 starts, 1 win, 1 placing. Racetzracks at Newmarket, Lingfield, Musselburgh.
Owner Mr. A. Ridha
 
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Is Unforgetable unraced Ticino?
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Hello,
another Derman Classic Race" is run nest Sunday
 
As usual the starterlist:
 
German 1000 Guineas, 1600 meters, Group 2, Fillies, Dusseldorf, Sunday 18.6.17:
 
Alwina (Areion - Alte Dame by Dashing Blade) Fam. 16 Kisasszony, Lucas Cranach
No inbreeding
 
Arazza (Areion - Aloe by Lomitas) Fam. 9-h Alveole
4x4 Nijinsky, 5x5x5 ND, 3rd dam Alya, FS Allegretta
 
Celebrity (Shamardal - Cherry Danon by Rock of Gibraltar) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
5x5x5 ND
 
Cristal Fizz (IRE)(Power - Effervescce by Galileo) Fam. 21-a Iltis
4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mill Reef
 
Delectation (GB)(Delegator - Chushka by Pivotal) Fam. 19-c Jojo
5x5x5 ND, Sire Delegator - Danehill 3x3 Natalma
 
Diaphora (Pivotal - Diacada by Cadeaux Genereux) Fam. 1-h Didergo
no inbreeding
 
Hargeisa (US)(Speightstown - Hasay by Lomitas) Fam. 3-n Pocahontas
5x5x5 ND, Sire 3x4 Secretariat, 4x4x5 Bold Ruler, 5x5 Nasrullah, 5x5 Tom Fool
 
Peace in Motion (US)(Hat Trick - Peace Royale by Sholokhov) Fam. 12-b Phebe
No inbreeding
 
Sunny Belle (IRE)(Exceed and Excel - Survey by Big Shuffle) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold
No inbeeding, Sire 4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma
 
Unforgetable Filly (GB)(Sepoy - Valiani by Oasis Dream) Fam. 3-d Native Street
4x4 Danzig, 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x4x4x4 ND, 5x5 Sir Ivor
 
Viva La Flora (Liang Kay - Valiani by Big Shuffle) Fam. 11-f Kermesse
5x5x5 ND
 
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Saw a few by Cacique when we  were over in Europe they seemed very much in the Danehill mold. 
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Hello,
here is the 'run in' of the "Union Rennen":
 
1) Colomano (GB)(Cacique-Codera by Zilzal) Fam. 4-f Crape Band
    4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma, Cacique - Danehill 3x3 Natalma
2) Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem
   3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane
3) Northsea Star (Sea the Stars - North Queen by Desert King) Fam. 4-r Nella Da Gubbio
    4x4 Danzig, 5x5x5 ND
 
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Thanks Ticino.

Without looking at the form but going on line-breeding will go for Monreal and Khan.
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Hello,
the most important and prestigious prep race for the "German Derby" will be run on Sunday.
 
As usual the starterlist: 
Union-Rennen, 2200 meters, Group 2, Cologne, Sunday 11.6.17:
 
Colomano (GB)(Cacique-Codera by Zilzal) Fam. 4-f Crape Band
4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma, Cacique - Danehill 3x3 Natalma
 
Khan (Santiago - Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde
3x5 Surumu, 4x5 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, dam 4x4 Reliance
 
Monreal (IRE)(Peintre Celebre - Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe
2x4 Nureyev, damsire 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone
 
Northsea Star (Sea the Stars - North Queen by Desert King) Fam. 4-r Nella Da Gubbio
4x4 Danzig, 5x5x5 ND
 
Oriental Khan (Campanologist - Oriental World by Platini) Fam. 4-i  Rose Bowl
No inbreeding, Sire 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev or 4x4 Special
 
Shanjo (Soldier Hollow - Shivara by Monsun ) Fam. 5-d Safety
Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, dam 3x4 Dschingis Khan, damsire Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone
 
Warring States (JPN)(Victoire Pisa - Ciliege by Sakura Bukoshin O) Fam. 18 Manto
No inbreeding, Sire 3x4 Halo, the damsire traces in the male stirp to Tesco Boy, a close
relative of Surumu
 
Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem
3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane
 
Btw, Furious mentioned Chelandry, in the peds of Northsea Star appears her Name via his Granddam Cortez, a descent of Chelandry and in the damline of "Khan" his 4th dam is by the same Sire.
 
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Hello,
unfortunately I hadn't the time to list the runners and Pedigrees of the "Diana Trial", 2000 meter,
Group 2.
 
Atleast I can tell you the result:
1) Tusked Wings (Adlerflug - Tucana by Acatenango) Fam. 9-h Alveole
2) Well Spoken (Soldier Hollow - Well Americain by Bertrando) Fm. 4-o Kincsem
3) Litaara (Wiener Walzer - Linton Bay by Funanmbule ) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples
 
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Hello,
here is the result of the "Mehl-Mülhens-Rennen":
 
1) Poetic Dream (IRE)(Poet's Voice- Zain Al Boldan) Fam. 12-g Honey Dear
    4x5 ND
2) Lockheed (GB)(Exceed and Excel-Clinical by Motivator) Fam. 3-d Native Street
    4x4x5 ND, Sire 5x5x5 Natalma, dam 4x4 Sharpen Up, 4x4 Mr. Prospector
3) Empire of the Star (FR)(Siyouni-Etoile Nocturne by Medicean) Fam. 2-s Cinq a Sept
    4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mr. Prospector, 3x3 Danehill/Machiavellian
 
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Hello,
sorry I forgot a Starter in the abovementiond race:
 
Empire of the Star (FR)(Siyouni-Etoile Nocturne by Medicean) Fam. 2-s Cinq a Sept
4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mr. Prospector, 3x3 Danehill/Machiavellian
 
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