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Ticino
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Hello,
Definitely not, Gay! Colomano is still racing as 4 year old (NH), after he recovered from his injury. This season he managered 3 placings, 2. Hansa Preis (Hamburg) Gr. 2, 2. Gerling Preis (Cologne) Gr. 2, 4. Gr. Preis d. Badischen Wirtschaft, Gr.2 (Baden Baden - Iffezheim). Hope I could help. regards, Ticino
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Gay3
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In case you missed this Ticino
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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DssZou
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Is Colomano good enough to win group races going forward?
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Here to win
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Ticino
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Hello,
here the Finish of the last German Classic race the "St. Leger" 1) Oriental Eagle (Campanologist-Oriental Pearl by Big Shuffle) Fam. 4-i Roseliere 4x5 Raise a Native, 5x5 Native Dancer, Sire 2x3 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 2) Moonshiner (Adlerflug-Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe 3x4 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives 3) Khan (Santiago-Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwürde 3x5 Surumu, dam 4x4 Reliance, sire Santiago-Highest Honor 4x4x5x5x5x5 FB/FS Nasrullah/Rivaz + 3/4 relative Royal Charger regards, Ticino |
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Ticino
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Hello,
the last "German Claasic" will be run next Weekend. 133. German St. Leger, 2800 meter, Group 3, Dortmund, Sunday 17.9.17: Moonshiner (Adlerflug-Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe 3x4 Sadlers Wells/Nureyev 3/4 relatives Shadow Sadness (Soldier Hollow-Shadow Queen by Lando) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 4x5 Shirley Heights, 5x5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, damsire 3x3 Literat/Liberty Sound Check (Lando-Sky Dancing by Exit to Nowhere) Fam. 5-h no inbreeding, Sire 3x3 Literat/Liberty, damsire Exit to Nowhere, dam 3x3 Almahmoud Stamford Raffles (GB)(Champs Elysees-Romantic Retreat by Rainbow Quest) Fam. 22-a Athasi 3x5 Blushing Groom, 4x5 High Line Eagle Eyes (Adlerflug-Evening Breeze by Surumu) Fam. 23 Arctic Melody no inbreeding, Sire 3x4 ND, 4x4 Mill Reef, dam 3x4 Reliance Near England (Lord of England-Near Galante by Galileo) Fam. 4-r Nella da Gubbio no inbreeding, dam 3x3 ND Summershine (IRE)(Three Valleys-Sulamith by Acatenango) Fam. 16-d Shahinaaz 4x5 ND, 4x5 Reliance Khan (Santiago-Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwürde 3x5 Surumu, dam 4x4 Reliance, sire Santiago-Highest Honor 4x4x5x5x5x5 FB/FS Nasrullah/Rivaz + 3/4 relative Royal Charger Oriental Eagle (Campanologist-Oriental Pearl by Big Shuffle) Fam. 4-i Roseliere 4x5 Raise a Native, 5x5 Native Dancer, Sire 2x3 Sadlers Wells/Nireyev Alicante (Lando-Annouche by Unfuwain) Fam. 7-f Adria no inbreeding, Sire 3x3 Literat/Liberty regards, Ticino
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Hello, Djebel,
I don't think so. Adlerflug (by In the Wings) is from the Alveole Family and his Granddam Alya is a FS of Allegretta and he is bred 4x4 Mill Reef and his dam sire is Last Tycoon. Adlerflug was Champion 3 year old in Germany. His dam Aiyana I remember, because she was a very good juveline runner, but couldn't keep her promise as 3 year old. Adlerflug himself won the German Derby (2400 meter), Deutschland Preis (2400 meter), both have a Group I Status, 2. Grosser Preis von Baden (twice) , Group I (2400 meter), 3, Prix Ganay (France), Hansa Preis. He stood at first at the "Harzburg Stud", but was later transferred to the "Schlenderhan Stud" near Cologne. His fee is 12.000 Euros (2016). He is the Sire of Iquitos, Tusked Wings (btw 3x3 Allegretta/Alya and just ran a 4thplaced in the German Oaks), Ito (Sire), Meergorl, Savoir Vivre (2. German Derby 2017), Shivajia , Lacazar (winner German Oaks), Moonshiner, Wunder, Swacadelic, Nordic Flight etc. regards, Ticino regards, Ticino
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Have we discussed the pedigree of Adlerflug before ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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Ticino
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Hello,
here is the result of the "German Oaks": 1) Lacazar (Adlerflug-Laey Diamond by Dai Jin) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples
3x4 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, 4x4 Shirley Heights, 5x5x5 Mill Reef, 4x5x5x5 ND 2) Megera (FR)(Motivator-Mantissa by Oratorio) Fam. 1-c Raker 4x5 ND 3) Wuheida (GB)(Dubawi-Hibaayeb by Singspiel) Fam. 9-c Mumtaz Mahal 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x5 Shirley Heights, 5x5 Sunbittern, 5x5x5 ND regards, Ticino |
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Hello, sorry, I forgot one starter: Alicante (Lando - Annouche by Unfuwain) Fam. 7-f Adria, Helmet No inbreeding, Sire 3x3 FB/FS Literat/Liberty regards, Ticino
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Hello,
the next German "Classic" is run on Sunday, this time for the Ladies. Preis der Diana (German Oaks), 2200 meter, Group 1, Dusseldorf, Sunday 6.8.17: Wuheida (GB)(Dubawi-Hibaayeb by Singspiel) Fam. 9-c Mumtaz Mahal 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x5 Shirley Heights, 5x5 Sunbittern, 5x5x5 ND Lacazar (Adlerflug-Laey Diamond by Dai Jin) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples 3x4 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, 4x4 Shirley Heights, 5x5x5 Mill Reef, 4x5x5x5 ND Tusked Wings (Adlerflug-Tucana by Acatenango) Fam. 9-h Alveole 3x3 Alya/Allegretta, Sire 3x4 ND, 4x4 Mill Reef Well Spoken (Soldier Holloow-Well American by Bertrando) Fam. 4-o Kincsem 5x5 Nijinsky, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell Diana Storm (Soldier Hollow-Divya by Platini) Fam. 18 Conniver 4x4 ND, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, dam 4x4 Red God Ashiana (Mastercraftsman-Ashantee by Areion) Fam. 1-m no inbreeding, Sire 4x4 ND, Granddam 3x3 Mill Reef Megera (FR)(Motivator-Mantissa by Oratorio) Fam. 1-c Raker 4x5 ND Navaro Girl (IRE)(Holy Roman Emperor-Neele by Peintre Celebre) Fam. 4-r Nella da Gubbio 4x4x4 ND, 5x5x5x5 Natalma Litaara (Wiener Walzer-Linton Bay by Funambule) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples 5x5 Primera Pemina (Soldier Hollow-Princess Lala by Royal Dragon) Fam. 9-e Zariba 4x5 ND, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell Prima Violetta (IRE)(Areion-Power Penny by Galileo) Fam. 13-a Princess Margaret 4x5x5 ND Shy Angel (GB)(Zamindar-Shy Lady by Kaldoun) Fam. 21-a Shy Dancer no inbreeding Sky full of Stars (Kendargent-Sworm Mum by Samum) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold no inbreeding, Sire 3x4 Kalamoun Gondora (Soldier Hollow-Gondola by Lando) Fam. 1-i Glenayes 5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, Damsire 3x3 Literat/Liberty Allegro Lady (Santiago-Adelma by Sternkönig) Fam. 7 Anmut 4x4 Kalamoun regards, Ticino
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Ticino
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Hello,
sorry I forgot to write this is the run in of 148. German Derby! The winner Windstoss was bred by the Röttgen Stud, situated on the outskirts of Cologne. Btw, the last Derby winner of the Stud was Uomo in 1959! regards, Ticino
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Ticino
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1)Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem 3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane 2) Enjoy Vijay (Nathanial - Enjoy The Life by by Medicean) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 3x4 Sadlers Wells, 4x5 Mr. Prospector, 4x5x5 ND, Sire 4x4 Nearctic, ND/Icecapade Nearctic/Native Dancer cross, 4x5 Hail to Reason, 5x5x5 Nearco, dam 5x5x5 Natalma 3) Rosenpurpur (Por Moi - Rosenreihe by Catcher in the Rye) Fam1-e Ierne 3x4 Darshaan, 4x4x5x5 ND Colomano was unfortunately unplaced, because he came out of the race with a bleeding hoof, either he kicked himself or was kicked by another horse. Langtang was non starter. regards, Ticino |
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Lope De Vega got one runner by Galileo.
That will spark the interest of Sir Gov / Whitto / ???? can't think of his other name as his filly was on that cross. |
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Ticino
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Hello,
the the great day is near, the "German Derby". 148. Deutsches Derby (only Colts/Fillies), 2400 meter, Group I, Hamburg, Sunday 02.07.17, 15:40 MET: Colomano (GB)(Cacique-Codera by Zilzal) Fam. 4-f Crape Band 4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma, Cacique - Danehill 3x3 Natalma Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem 3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane Langtang (Campanologist-La Vinchina by Oasis Dream) Fam. 9-e Love In, Zariba 4x5x5 ND, Sire 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev Northsea Star (Sea the Stars - North Queen by Desert King) Fam. 4-r Nella Da Gubbio 4x4 Danzig, 5x5x5 ND Warring States (JPN)(Victoire Pisa - Ciliege by Sakura Bukoshin O) Fam. 18 Manto No inbreeding, Sire 3x4 Halo, the damsire traces in the male stirp to Tesco Boy, a close relative of Surumu Enjoy Vijay (Nathaniel - Enjoy The Life by Medicean) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 3x4 Sadlers Wells, 4 x 5 Mr. prospector, 4x5x5 ND; Sire 4x4 Nearctic, ND/Icecapade Nearctic/Native Dancer cross, 4x5 Hail to Reason, 5x5x5 Nearco; Dam 5x5x5 Natalma Monreal (IRE)(Peintre Celebre - Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe 2x4 Nureyev, damsire 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone Kastano (Nathanial - Kastila by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-b Contessa Oleanda no inbreeding Ming Jung (FR)(Kallisto-Muriel by Fath) Fam. 13-c Natasha no inbreeding, dam 4x4 Sir Gaylord Shanjo (Soldier Hollow - Shivara by Monsun) Fam. 5-d Safety Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, dam 3x4 Dschingis Khan, damsire Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone Amun (Soldier Hollow - Albula by Dashing Blade) Fam. 2-n Alex 4x4 Shirley Heights, 4x4 Kris, 4x5x5 Sharpen Up, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, 3x5x5 ND direct damline Alpenkonig (German Derby Winner) Parviz (IRE)(Lope de Vega - Sur Choix by Galileo) Fam. 13-c Frizette 5x5x 5 Mr. Prospector, Sire 3x3 Machiavellian, dam 3 x 3 Almahmoud Sargas (IRE)(Shirocco - Servenya by Dashing Blade) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 4x5 ND, Sire Shirocco - Monsun 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone FB/BS Rosenpurpur (Pour Moi - Rosenreihe by Catcher in the Rye) Fam. 1-e Ierne 3x4 Darshaan, 4x4x5x5 ND Oriental Khan (Campanologist - Oriental World by Platini) Fam. 4-i Rose Bowl no inbreeding, Sire 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev or 4x4 Special Khan (Santiago - Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde 3x5 Surumu, 4x5 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, dam 4x4 Reliance Fam. of Kamsin (German Derby Winner), Konigsstuhl (Germany's only "Triple Crown Winner") Promise of Peace (JPN)(King Kamehameha - Peace of World by Sunday Silence) Fam. 4-d Basse Terre 5x5x5 ND Gepard (Soldier Hollow - Golden Time by Surumu) Fam. 1-a Grave and Gay No inbreeding, Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, 3x5x 5 ND, dam 3x4 Birkhahn, 5x5 Ticino Fam. of Gereon, Girolamo, Give Me Five Sternkranz (Kamsin - Sternstunde by Sir Warren) Fam. 5-d Safety 5x5 Top Ville, Sire 3x4 Surumu, 5x5 Birkhahn, 4x4 Sadlers Wells, dam 4x4 Reliance Direct damline Star Appeal, Sternkonig The runners are listed in the order of their GAG (= Handicap mark until June) Kind regards from a "rainy, partly flooded "Germany Ticino |
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Lots of good points Mumtaz but it really it a mystery. Sepoy's family aren't temperamental on the whole but maybe he's just mixed better with a different mare population. Like Galileo who is so superior in Europe and didn't produce much in Australia. I wouldn't of thought the mare base was that different as most performing lines here are also overseas so maybe it is also the different training Technics. Some of their Newmarket and Chantilly areas in particular are really an eye opener for training horses. Mind you you also see many of the ones sent over for the Cup with two handlers so quite a few of their horses might be hot under the collar and they just have different ways of managing the problems.
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The main reason I can think or re Helmet's relative non performance in Australia is that he was a fiery racehorse on his day (like most day's) and possibly he is passing that on to his progeny. Thunder Snow is obviously a hot horse. Again, possibly the training in the UK which involves less work on the race tracks themselves, and more work on long stretches working with others in a calmer situation might suit their temperaments better. UK trainers might just be putting less pressure on them.
There are a lot of might's here and I never noticed that Sepoy was as temperamental as Helmet. Maybe it is just that the 2YO and early 3YO competition in Australia with more early maturer's is just tougher.
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Second Chance
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Yes Furious, I typed in Unforgetable instead of Unforgetable Filly.
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Hi Second Choice Bloodhound has 7 starts 2 wins 3 seconds 1 third including the 6th 1000 Guineas. Not up to date yet with the German race. Maybe you missed a letter in the name. What is is about the Helmets (he had another stakes winner yesterday also and the Sepoys. We just can't get them going here.
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Ticino
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Hello,
here is the result of the "German 1000 Guineas": 1) Unforgetable Filly (GB)(Sepoy - Valiani by Oasis Dream) Fam. 3-d Native Street
4x4 Danzig, 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x4x4x4 ND, 5x5 Sir Ivor 2) Peace in Motion (US)(Hat Trick - Peace Royale by Sholokhov) Fam. 12-b Phebe No inbreeding 3) Arazza (Areion - Aloe by Lomitas) Fam. 9-h Alveole 4x4 Nijinsky, 5x5x5 ND, 3rd dam Alya, FS Allegretta regards, Ticino |
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Thanks Ticino, Bloodhound didn't have any performances for her.
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Ticino
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Hello, Second Chance
according the German Racing paper "Sportwelt, she started already as 2 year old, was Sixth in the "English 1000 Guineas" and won a Listed Race (1400 meters).Aas 2 year old : 4 starts, 3 wins, 1 placing, 3 year old: 3 starts, 1 win, 1 placing. Racetzracks at Newmarket, Lingfield, Musselburgh. Owner Mr. A. Ridha regards, Ticino
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Is Unforgetable unraced Ticino?
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Ticino
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Hello,
another Derman Classic Race" is run nest Sunday As usual the starterlist: German 1000 Guineas, 1600 meters, Group 2, Fillies, Dusseldorf, Sunday 18.6.17: Alwina (Areion - Alte Dame by Dashing Blade) Fam. 16 Kisasszony, Lucas Cranach No inbreeding Arazza (Areion - Aloe by Lomitas) Fam. 9-h Alveole 4x4 Nijinsky, 5x5x5 ND, 3rd dam Alya, FS Allegretta Celebrity (Shamardal - Cherry Danon by Rock of Gibraltar) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold 5x5x5 ND Cristal Fizz (IRE)(Power - Effervescce by Galileo) Fam. 21-a Iltis 4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mill Reef Delectation (GB)(Delegator - Chushka by Pivotal) Fam. 19-c Jojo 5x5x5 ND, Sire Delegator - Danehill 3x3 Natalma Diaphora (Pivotal - Diacada by Cadeaux Genereux) Fam. 1-h Didergo no inbreeding Hargeisa (US)(Speightstown - Hasay by Lomitas) Fam. 3-n Pocahontas 5x5x5 ND, Sire 3x4 Secretariat, 4x4x5 Bold Ruler, 5x5 Nasrullah, 5x5 Tom Fool Peace in Motion (US)(Hat Trick - Peace Royale by Sholokhov) Fam. 12-b Phebe No inbreeding Sunny Belle (IRE)(Exceed and Excel - Survey by Big Shuffle) Fam. 16-c Schwarzgold No inbeeding, Sire 4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma Unforgetable Filly (GB)(Sepoy - Valiani by Oasis Dream) Fam. 3-d Native Street 4x4 Danzig, 4x4 Mr. Prospector, 4x4x4x4 ND, 5x5 Sir Ivor Viva La Flora (Liang Kay - Valiani by Big Shuffle) Fam. 11-f Kermesse 5x5x5 ND regards, Ticino |
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Saw a few by Cacique when we were over in Europe they seemed very much in the Danehill mold.
Thank you Ticino
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Ticino
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Hello,
here is the 'run in' of the "Union Rennen": 1) Colomano (GB)(Cacique-Codera by Zilzal) Fam. 4-f Crape Band 4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma, Cacique - Danehill 3x3 Natalma 2) Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem 3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane 3) Northsea Star (Sea the Stars - North Queen by Desert King) Fam. 4-r Nella Da Gubbio 4x4 Danzig, 5x5x5 ND regards, Ticino |
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Thanks Ticino.
Without looking at the form but going on line-breeding will go for Monreal and Khan.
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Hello,
the most important and prestigious prep race for the "German Derby" will be run on Sunday. As usual the starterlist: Union-Rennen, 2200 meters, Group 2, Cologne, Sunday 11.6.17: Colomano (GB)(Cacique-Codera by Zilzal) Fam. 4-f Crape Band 4x4 ND, 5x5x5 Natalma, Cacique - Danehill 3x3 Natalma Khan (Santiago - Kapitol by Winged Love) Fam. 5-h Kaiserwurde 3x5 Surumu, 4x5 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev, dam 4x4 Reliance Monreal (IRE)(Peintre Celebre - Montezuma by Monsun) Fam. 25 Meernymphe 2x4 Nureyev, damsire 4x4 Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone Northsea Star (Sea the Stars - North Queen by Desert King) Fam. 4-r Nella Da Gubbio 4x4 Danzig, 5x5x5 ND Oriental Khan (Campanologist - Oriental World by Platini) Fam. 4-i Rose Bowl No inbreeding, Sire 2x3 3/4 relatives Sadlers Wells/Nureyev or 4x4 Special Shanjo (Soldier Hollow - Shivara by Monsun ) Fam. 5-d Safety Sire 4x4 Special/Lisadell, dam 3x4 Dschingis Khan, damsire Kaiseradler/Kaiserkrone Warring States (JPN)(Victoire Pisa - Ciliege by Sakura Bukoshin O) Fam. 18 Manto No inbreeding, Sire 3x4 Halo, the damsire traces in the male stirp to Tesco Boy, a close relative of Surumu Windstoß (Shirocco - Wellenspiel by Sternkonig) Fam. 4-o Kincsem 3x3 Konigsstuhl, 5x5 Authi, 5x5x5 Tamerlane Btw, Furious mentioned Chelandry, in the peds of Northsea Star appears her Name via his Granddam Cortez, a descent of Chelandry and in the damline of "Khan" his 4th dam is by the same Sire. regards, Ticino |
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Hello,
unfortunately I hadn't the time to list the runners and Pedigrees of the "Diana Trial", 2000 meter, Group 2. Atleast I can tell you the result: 1) Tusked Wings (Adlerflug - Tucana by Acatenango) Fam. 9-h Alveole 2) Well Spoken (Soldier Hollow - Well Americain by Bertrando) Fm. 4-o Kincsem 3) Litaara (Wiener Walzer - Linton Bay by Funanmbule ) Fam. 7-b Lovely Naples regards, Ticino
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Hello, here is the result of the "Mehl-Mülhens-Rennen": 1) Poetic Dream (IRE)(Poet's Voice- Zain Al Boldan) Fam. 12-g Honey Dear 4x5 ND 2) Lockheed (GB)(Exceed and Excel-Clinical by Motivator) Fam. 3-d Native Street
4x4x5 ND, Sire 5x5x5 Natalma, dam 4x4 Sharpen Up, 4x4 Mr. Prospector 3) Empire of the Star (FR)(Siyouni-Etoile Nocturne by Medicean) Fam. 2-s Cinq a Sept 4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mr. Prospector, 3x3 Danehill/Machiavellian regards, Ticino |
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Hello,
sorry I forgot a Starter in the abovementiond race: Empire of the Star (FR)(Siyouni-Etoile Nocturne by Medicean) Fam. 2-s Cinq a Sept 4x5x5 ND, 4x5 Mr. Prospector, 3x3 Danehill/Machiavellian regards, Ticino |
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