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Hahaha, actually you quoted him twice, and vigorously defended him at least once.
And the dozen others were all vested interests, remember one of them didn’t even have an office,and was a p/t personal coach....

You really need to be more discriminating on whose musings you believe....


We’ve done this over and over,why do property investors deserve discounted taxes?
And remember dummy, the discounts apply to all asset classes,so providing housing for the unfortunates of society is the wrong answer.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Gotta be a winning policy when you align it with their Retirees Tax, and Stop Adani and Coal Mining!Thumbs Up

Tell me, what benefits will society in Australia gain from a foreign entity mining our resources and exporting them?

Hint: if you are going to quote jobs, best not use their original inflated numbers.....
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Adani will deliver lower Co2 emissions - surely you understand that rusty?

Ask the people in Townsville who are begging for jobs about employment opportunities - Adani has had over 14,000 applications for about 8,000 jobs.

Afros, Socialism, which is what you are describing, is thriving in Venezuela.
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I find it interesting that Labor all of a sudden want to adopt all of the things that have NOT worked in overseas economies, and throw out everything that HAS worked in making Australia the World Leading economy that we are ...?

But then, when you peel back the facade, they are just the USUAL SUSPECTS ... Rudd/Gillard/Rudd 2.1Dead
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Same old story with rightards, preach meritocracy when all they really want is nepotism and plutocracy.
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Call it what you like, the system we have in place is proven and working, and has for many decades, and has delivered the rarified lifestyle that you enjoy today ...why would half a million people want to escape countries "that don't have negative gearing or franking credits" and come here every year?
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Call it what you like, the system we have in place is proven and working, and has for many decades, and has delivered the rarified lifestyle that you enjoy today ...why would half a million people want to escape countries "that don't have negative gearing or franking credits" and come here every year?

you have outdone yourself this time, your most stupid remark in living memory Clap

I am sure all those people consider the negative gearing and franking before trying to come here Confused
I guess the millions trying to get into USA which does not have either are just not fiscally responsible LOL
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Call it what you like, the system we have in place is proven and working, and has for many decades, and has delivered the rarified lifestyle that you enjoy today ...why would half a million people want to escape countries "that don't have negative gearing or franking credits" and come here every year?


No wars and a beautiful climate play a significant part also. We do have a great country but we can still improve, increased casualisation of the workforce and uneven wealth distribution with something like 70% pf the wealth controlled by 1% of the population are just two issues creating inequality.

Yes I know you need the carrot of wealth to stimulate improvisation and keep the economy ticking over but equally billionaires and multi millionaires hoarding 70% of the wealth is frankly obscene.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Adani will deliver lower Co2 emissions - surely you understand that rusty?

Ask the people in Townsville who are begging for jobs about employment opportunities - Adani has had over 14,000 applications for about 8,000 jobs.

Afros, Socialism, which is what you are describing, is thriving in Venezuela.

Huh?
You’re saying the economic benefit to Australia,is that instead of digging up our coal, they’ll dig up someone else’s coal?
That sort of critical analysis is poor at even grade 4 level.

It was originally touted that the mine would provide 10,000 jobs.
That’s been revised and the absolute highest number they can possibly justify is 1400.
So undoubtedly, the real number, if it ever gets off the ground will be a fraction of that.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Call it what you like, the system we have in place is proven and working, and has for many decades, and has delivered the rarified lifestyle that you enjoy today ...why would half a million people want to escape countries "that don't have negative gearing or franking credits" and come here every year?

you have outdone yourself this time, your most stupid remark in living memory Clap

I am sure all those people consider the negative gearing and franking before trying to come here Confused
I guess the millions trying to get into USA which does not have either are just not fiscally responsible LOL

They want to come here because of the economy (and the hand-outs) - which we can only afford because of the current economic settings.

You don't know the difference between legal immigration and what the Democrats are promoting on the Southern Border do you - that's called voter importation.

It's Ok, you were not expected to understand Whale.
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Adani will deliver lower Co2 emissions - surely you understand that rusty?

Ask the people in Townsville who are begging for jobs about employment opportunities - Adani has had over 14,000 applications for about 8,000 jobs.

Afros, Socialism, which is what you are describing, is thriving in Venezuela.

Huh?
You’re saying the economic benefit to Australia,is that instead of digging up our coal, they’ll dig up someone else’s coal?
That sort of critical analysis is poor at even grade 4 level.

It was originally touted that the mine would provide 10,000 jobs.
That’s been revised and the absolute highest number they can possibly justify is 1400.
So undoubtedly, the real number, if it ever gets off the ground will be a fraction of that.

If you want me to educate you about economic benefits, you should ask about economic benefits ... you didn't, but nice try anyway.Wink

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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Call it what you like, the system we have in place is proven and working, and has for many decades, and has delivered the rarified lifestyle that you enjoy today ...why would half a million people want to escape countries "that don't have negative gearing or franking credits" and come here every year?


No wars and a beautiful climate play a significant part also. We do have a great country but we can still improve, increased casualisation of the workforce and uneven wealth distribution with something like 70% pf the wealth controlled by 1% of the population are just two issues creating inequality.

Yes I know you need the carrot of wealth to stimulate improvisation and keep the economy ticking over but equally billionaires and multi millionaires hoarding 70% of the wealth is frankly obscene.

You keep making statements ... and our lifestyles just keep on getting better!

I would gladly vote for an alternative Government that had policies that would be better than what is in place - that simply doesn't exist, I'm afraid.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

If the ALP were not indebted to the Greens, they may even come up with some reasonable policies - but the economic policies they have come up with are regressive and punitive. They are designed to scream "Social Justice" ... "We will take from the rich and give to the poor!!!" ... eventually, Socialists run out of other people's money ...
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Not giving rich people cash gifts far in excess of the pension, is not the same as taking money from them.....

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The far right and the rich cannot see that Rusty, their attitude is all about themselves and throw the rest a bone at election time.

Doc you may be to ignorant to understand but its not about spending someone elses money until it runs out, as you bang on about ad nauseam, it's about trying to ensure the gap between the haves and have nots is as small as possible.

Do you really think 1% of the population having 70% of the wealth locked up is a good thing? Do you want us to become like the US where losing your job can see you living on the streets in a month? Surely you can agree that peoples access to education and health should not be determined by the wallet?
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Not giving rich people cash gifts far in excess of the pension, is not the same as taking money from them.....


Rich people, far in excess, careful your jealousy is showing, many are neither.
The tax has been paid, all should get the benefit, end of story.
At least Doc, who I disagree with on nearly everything, had the grace to comment on my compromise of limiting the refund to 5 or 10 k.

I guess your prejudice against the " rich" does not allow you to do that
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Not giving rich people cash gifts far in excess of the pension, is not the same as taking money from them.....



Rich people, far in excess, careful your jealousy is showing, many are neither.
The tax has been paid, all should get the benefit, end of story.
At least Doc, who I disagree with on nearly everything, had the grace to comment on my compromise of limiting the refund to 5 or 10 k.

I guess your prejudice against the " rich" does not allow you to do that
more than happy to limit it to 10k.
As per usual the top 10% are actually getting over 1/2 of the spoils.

But it’s still a gift.
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That's how most LNP economic policies work rusty.
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okay, seems a sensible compromise, pity that goose Shorten couldn't think of it
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I would think that withdrawing all the franking credits means more will be on a government pension or part pension, at least a $10 k limit stops that in many cases, have not done the figures and am not going to LOL
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Doc can make some up for you.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

The far right and the rich cannot see that Rusty, their attitude is all about themselves and throw the rest a bone at election time.

Doc you may be to ignorant to understand but its not about spending someone elses money until it runs out, as you bang on about ad nauseam, it's about trying to ensure the gap between the haves and have nots is as small as possible.

Do you really think 1% of the population having 70% of the wealth locked up is a good thing? Do you want us to become like the US where losing your job can see you living on the streets in a month? Surely you can agree that peoples access to education and health should not be determined by the wallet?

Why do you think that anyone will be better off if moderately successful people are penalised? ... you do know that the ALP's regressive economic policies do nothing to harm genuinely wealthy people, but rather, they hurt the average person who has tried to lessen their burden on society, and who try to be more than welfare dependent - do you actually understand that?
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I would think that withdrawing all the franking credits means more will be on a government pension or part pension, at least a $10 k limit stops that in many cases, have not done the figures and am not going to LOL

Typically with these virtue signaling policies, they will miss the mark Whale.

The truly wealthy are already in the process of rearranging their assets so they will avoid the sting.

Those who legitimately can not afford it will wear the penalty.

Accordingly, there will be a massive hole in the ALP's bottom line - should the ill informed public elect them ...
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Doc can make some up for you.

... around 200,000 of the pesky bastards, according to the commentators CNNPT - hopefully, they don't have families and drop off the perch sooner than later! ... but the retired public servants who produced nothing will be OK, as they suck on the public tit in perpetuity, eh!Wink
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Sally McManus, an ignorant class warrior.

According to her self funded retirees earning $45,000 are rich  because they have shares, completely uninformed and biased on the topic. As she is on negative gearing, not saying I agree with it but she was completely clueless when interviewed on radio this morning.

How does someone like her land such an important job, quotas or the casting couch ? On reflection looking at her scrap the second option LOL
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Casting Couch ... who was doing the casting? ... Penny Wong?LOL
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I just voted on my laptop, yeeha.Thumbs Up Usually vote early but this is even better.Clap
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Hahahaha! ... one of the best sledges I've heard so far in the NSW election!LOLLOLLOL

Michael Daly (is that his name? - the NSW Opposition Leader anyway), after his racist comments were reported in the media ...

"He's trying to be Pauline Hanson when he is in the Blue Mountains, and Sarah Hanson-Young when he is in the city!"Clap 

Importantly, like every closet xenophobe and racist of convenience, he was "very sorry" that he got caught out. Embarrassed

Michael Daley cops backlash over ‘racist’ video
Just days before the election, a “racist” video showing the Labor leader warning that Asians are “taking jobs’’ from young Aussies has emerged.

A bombshell video showing the NSW Labor leader saying Asian immigrants are “taking the jobs’’ of young Aussies has emerged just days before voters go to the polls in the NSW state election.

Michael Daley has now apologised for his comments in the video, adding that he “could have expressed himself better”.

In the YouTube clip, which was made by journalist Daniel Pizarro and published yesterday, Mr Daley can be seen talking to an audience at a pub in the Blue Mountains, saying Australians are being replaced by foreigners who were “moving in and taking their jobs”.

“Our young children will flee and who are they being replaced with? They are being replaced by young people from typically Asia with PhDs,” Mr Daley can be heard saying in the video, filmed in September.

“There’s a transformation happening in Sydney now where our kids are moving out and foreigners are moving in and taking their jobs.


It's always a worry when the Xenophobes say ...

“And I don’t want to sound xenophobic, it’s not a xenophobic thing, it’s an economic question.”

A man in the audience, who says he is “deeply concerned” with the statement, then asks Mr Daley to clarify his comment.

“It’s just a statement of fact. Our young people are moving out of Sydney because they cannot afford to live here and they are being replaced by international workers,” Mr Daley responded.

“Most of those are from Asia — from China, from Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore. It’s not a bad thing because Asian kids are coming to work here, it’s a bad thing because I’d like my daughter to live in Maroubra rather than St Kilda.”

The clip has outraged the Greens who are crucial to Labor if both parties fail to win a majority.

“Michael Daley’s appalling narrow­casting is engaging in racist­ dog whistling against Asian Australians when he thinks no one critical is listening,’’ Greens MP David Shoebridge wrote on Twitter.

“Shameful stuff and an ugly bit of insight into the whatever-it-takes ALP machine.’’Dead


https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/michael-daley-cops-backlash-over-racist-video/news-story/dce001eb85d6a9a420154f159f508b61


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He's done a deal with the "Shooters Party" too, wonder what he's saying about that to the Greenies? ... ooops! Embarrassed
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... the lying Asian-Hating ALP State Opposition Leader
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Most of those are from Asia — from China, from Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore. It’s not a bad thing because Asian kids are coming to work here, it’s a bad thing because I’d like my daughter to live in Maroubra rather than St Kilda.”


The second sentence makes no sense to me - isn't St Kilda just as expensive if not more so than Maroubra? Arfur Daley could get his daughter a Housing Dept low income flat in Maroubra if he wins.Wink
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