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I am still waiting for the Greek Orthodox Church to apologise for that maggot who did the same thing in Melbourne recently Maybe we should start deporting Greeks. 

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are you sure he wasn't Muslim, PT...people swore he said Allah Akbar...Confused

 amazing discrepancy...

 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am still waiting for the Greek Orthodox Church to apologise for that maggot who did the same thing in Melbourne recently Maybe we should start deporting Greeks. 

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Oh that bloke. (Thanks for giving a hard name to google!)
Yeah but why would the Greek Orthodox Church apologise on his behalf? I don't get it. He wasn't remotely radicalised by anything to do with their religion. Or was he? (Cue duh duh duh mystery music.)
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Some interesting points raised by both of you. One only needs to look at posts by Macca, AA and Dr E though, as to why immigrants may not yet feel any sense of patriotism to a country.

Yeah but sub frustration caused by silencing and ostracising people who challenge the PC hegemony leads to exaggerated language, thinking, feeling... even acts! Like what happened in London. Or what Pauline says. Or some bloke bashing a random Indian taxi driver. That's why I loathe nanny state type stuff - trying to make everyone fit into a form that suits whoever is making the masterpiece in their own minds. It's demeaning and ultimately divisive. It don't work, and it simply shouldn't. A bit of healthy human patriotism or family values or whatever leaves room for differences and conflicts, but any attempt to impose a culture that runs against good old human nature is bound to fail. That's why I don't like "the left" - they are, collectively, intolerant dictators, for all their self righteous preaching about tolerance and freedom. Plus they simply cause more trouble than they solve.

 
 
This is absolute rubbish, Stayer. Nobody is silencing anyone in this country.

Except by saying "that's absolute rubbish."
Ok. I can't respond I guess, coz it's absolute rubbish. I feel "silenced."
 
 
 
It's your choice to feel silenced. You also have an option to respond. Your comment is laughable. This is my right to respond to your right to make outrageous claims.
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he is described as Greek-Tongan...

 not a Muslim in sight...

 
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are you sure he wasn't Muslim, PT...people swore he said Allah Akbar...Confused

 amazing discrepancy...

 

I really don't get this thing where someone has to apologise on behalf of a criminal or for someone else's criminal act

I thought the right were all about personal responsibility. Maybe it is only when it suits their argument
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am still waiting for the Greek Orthodox Church to apologise for that maggot who did the same thing in Melbourne recently Maybe we should start deporting Greeks. 

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Oh that bloke. (Thanks for giving a hard name to google!)
Yeah but why would the Greek Orthodox Church apologise on his behalf? I don't get it. He wasn't remotely radicalised by anything to do with their religion. Or was he? (Cue duh duh duh mystery music.)

 In the days before the attack, Gargasoulas began to post messages on Facebook about "religion, God, Satan, heaven and hell", which writers for The Age described as "rambling and often nonsensical"
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


Some interesting points raised by both of you. One only needs to look at posts by Macca, AA and Dr E though, as to why immigrants may not yet feel any sense of patriotism to a country.

Yeah but sub frustration caused by silencing and ostracising people who challenge the PC hegemony leads to exaggerated language, thinking, feeling... even acts! Like what happened in London. Or what Pauline says. Or some bloke bashing a random Indian taxi driver. That's why I loathe nanny state type stuff - trying to make everyone fit into a form that suits whoever is making the masterpiece in their own minds. It's demeaning and ultimately divisive. It don't work, and it simply shouldn't. A bit of healthy human patriotism or family values or whatever leaves room for differences and conflicts, but any attempt to impose a culture that runs against good old human nature is bound to fail. That's why I don't like "the left" - they are, collectively, intolerant dictators, for all their self righteous preaching about tolerance and freedom. Plus they simply cause more trouble than they solve.

 
 
This is absolute rubbish, Stayer. Nobody is silencing anyone in this country.

Except by saying "that's absolute rubbish."
Ok. I can't respond I guess, coz it's absolute rubbish. I feel "silenced."

 
 
 
It's your choice to feel silenced. You also have an option to respond. Your comment is laughable. This is my right to respond to your right to make outrageous claims.

I THINK I get what you mean sub. My right to respond is there (thank God Australia has kept that alive) but I don't really feel like my response will be considered thoughtfully or respectfully by someone who calls my (ironic) point "laughable" and "outrageous."
A brick wall is a kind of silencing isn't it? And an ad hominem a kind of ostracism?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


Some interesting points raised by both of you. One only needs to look at posts by Macca, AA and Dr E though, as to why immigrants may not yet feel any sense of patriotism to a country.


well, besides macca, doc and aa...their might be 3000 years of unpatriotic history to contend with too.

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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am still waiting for the Greek Orthodox Church to apologise for that maggot who did the same thing in Melbourne recently Maybe we should start deporting Greeks. 

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<span style="color: rgb84, 84, 84; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Dimitrious Gargasoulas - Bourke Street </span>

Oh that bloke. (Thanks for giving a hard name to google!)
Yeah but why would the Greek Orthodox Church apologise on his behalf? I don't get it. He wasn't remotely radicalised by anything to do with their religion. Or was he? (Cue duh duh duh mystery music.)


 <span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">In the days before the attack, Gargasoulas began to post messages on </span>Facebook<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> about "religion, God, Satan, heaven and hell", which writers for </span><i style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">The Age<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> described as "rambling and often nonsensical"</span>

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Oh deary me....Adrian Elms aka Kalid Masood.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

You cant say these things, Stayer !  Its racism !  You will get shot down in flames, which is why many people dont even bother trying any more.  Only racists like me , here on a forum, and you of course Wink



 no...it's a free country...have your little rants...but just remember that every time you tar all people of any country/ religion/ sect with the same brush as radicals you are inciting as much hatred as you give...

 do you ever talk to Muslim people?




this whole "do you even know a muslim...have you ever talked to a muslim.." Shallow and pretty pointless.

and it can easily be flipped. i cant speak for AA but she might ask why a muslim has never spoken to her. as anyone can.

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i think Kayser is off the hook having to apologise for Adrian Elms Embarrassed
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am still waiting for the Greek Orthodox Church to apologise for that maggot who did the same thing in Melbourne recently Maybe we should start deporting Greeks. 

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Oh that bloke. (Thanks for giving a hard name to google!)
Yeah but why would the Greek Orthodox Church apologise on his behalf? I don't get it. He wasn't remotely radicalised by anything to do with their religion. Or was he? (Cue duh duh duh mystery music.)


 <span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">In the days before the attack, Gargasoulas began to post messages on </span>Facebook<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> about "religion, God, Satan, heaven and hell", which writers for </span><i style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">The Age<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> described as "rambling and often nonsensical"</span>

And?
 
 
You are so selectively precious. You are more than happy to laugh at PT's post on Russia/asassinations in the Trump thread, then play the victim in here.
 
 
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Quote: "bat poo crazy". Love it.  
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Whoops, that was in response to stayer's other posts to me.
 
There is no brick wall, Stayer. Nobody is being silenced in Oz. In fact, this gov't wants to give you more right to speak out and offend if you so choose.
 
The right are so funny on this. Nobody screams free speech more than Bolt, Panahi, Kenny, Devine etc and none block so frequently on social media or offer nothing more than an echo chamber on their TV shows....
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Quote: "bat poo crazy". Love it.  
Pity they can't vaccinate against stupidity.
Google it. 

 you have to ask Pauline if stupidity is a disease...then you can vaccinate...or not...she isn't too cluey on that either...Wink

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i think Kayser is off the hook having to apologise for Adrian Elms Embarrassed

I don't get what you mean PT. That bloke is par for the course. A sociopath who found purpose (and I'm sure identity and connections) in radical Islam. Probably first through social media, then through people who validated and groomed him, etc etc. Why shouldn't Australia's spokesman for Islam be approached for comment? At least to immediately condemn it and reassure us that it ain't anything to do with the religion? Probably still working on his scripts.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am still waiting for the Greek Orthodox Church to apologise for that maggot who did the same thing in Melbourne recently Maybe we should start deporting Greeks. 

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Oh that bloke. (Thanks for giving a hard name to google!)
Yeah but why would the Greek Orthodox Church apologise on his behalf? I don't get it. He wasn't remotely radicalised by anything to do with their religion. Or was he? (Cue duh duh duh mystery music.)


 <span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">In the days before the attack, Gargasoulas began to post messages on </span>Facebook<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> about "religion, God, Satan, heaven and hell", which writers for </span><i style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">The Age<span style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"> described as "rambling and often nonsensical"</span>

And?

 
 
You are so selectively precious. You are more than happy to laugh at PT's post on Russia/asassinations in the Trump thread, then play the victim in here.
 
 

"So selectively precious", "play the victim"... see how that blocks a conversation?
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i think Kayser is off the hook having to apologise for Adrian Elms Embarrassed

I don't get what you mean PT. That bloke is par for the course. A sociopath who found purpose (and I'm sure identity and connections) in radical Islam. Probably first through social media, then through people who validated and groomed him, etc etc. Why shouldn't Australia's spokesman for Islam be approached for comment? At least to immediately condemn it and reassure us that it ain't anything to do with the religion? Probably still working on his scripts.

So he was an English teacher and committing crimes long before he converted, Who should apologise for those crimes?
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i think Kayser is off the hook having to apologise for Adrian Elms Embarrassed

I don't get what you mean PT. That bloke is par for the course. A sociopath who found purpose (and I'm sure identity and connections) in radical Islam. Probably first through social media, then through people who validated and groomed him, etc etc. Why shouldn't Australia's spokesman for Islam be approached for comment? At least to immediately condemn it and reassure us that it ain't anything to do with the religion? Probably still working on his scripts.

 you still don't get it, do you?

 Theresa May needs to apologise for breeding a nutter...

 
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


Some interesting points raised by both of you. One only needs to look at posts by Macca, AA and Dr E though, as to why immigrants may not yet feel any sense of patriotism to a country.

Yeah but sub frustration caused by silencing and ostracising people who challenge the PC hegemony leads to exaggerated language, thinking, feeling... even acts! Like what happened in London. Or what Pauline says. Or some bloke bashing a random Indian taxi driver. That's why I loathe nanny state type stuff - trying to make everyone fit into a form that suits whoever is making the masterpiece in their own minds. It's demeaning and ultimately divisive. It don't work, and it simply shouldn't. A bit of healthy human patriotism or family values or whatever leaves room for differences and conflicts, but any attempt to impose a culture that runs against good old human nature is bound to fail. That's why I don't like "the left" - they are, collectively, intolerant dictators, for all their self righteous preaching about tolerance and freedom. Plus they simply cause more trouble than they solve.
 
 
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


Some interesting points raised by both of you. One only needs to look at posts by Macca, AA and Dr E though, as to why immigrants may not yet feel any sense of patriotism to a country.

Yeah but sub frustration caused by silencing and ostracising people who challenge the PC hegemony leads to exaggerated language, thinking, feeling... even acts! Like what happened in London. Or what Pauline says. Or some bloke bashing a random Indian taxi driver. That's why I loathe nanny state type stuff - trying to make everyone fit into a form that suits whoever is making the masterpiece in their own minds. It's demeaning and ultimately divisive. It don't work, and it simply shouldn't. A bit of healthy human patriotism or family values or whatever leaves room for differences and conflicts, but any attempt to impose a culture that runs against good old human nature is bound to fail. That's why I don't like "the left" - they are, collectively, intolerant dictators, for all their self righteous preaching about tolerance and freedom. Plus they simply cause more trouble than they solve.
 
 
But this doesn't block conversation, Stayer?

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Yeah but that's why I put it in quotation marks - "the Left." If "the left" means so much to you that it blocks a conversation, well...
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Yeah but that's why I put it in quotation marks - "the Left." If "the left" means so much to you that it blocks a conversation, well...


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Donald Trump also uses quotation marks........sad!!
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Donald Trump also uses quotation marks........sad!!


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Maybe we should re-name this thread "Unsupported Generalisations about the Left", or better for balance "Unsupported Generalisations about the Left and Right".  Shocked
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Maybe we should re-name this thread "Unsupported Generalisations about the Left", or better for balance "Unsupported Generalisations about the Left and Right".  Shocked


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why doesnt the hard left have its own identifiable garb. most cults do yeah?
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