Gingernuts

$21/6 Crownbet best atm 

Not usually that far out or that price Max. However $51 Astern and $41 Impending have whet the appetite. If Gingernuts comes up the $21 will be absolute luxury but it's marginal now imo.

3blindmice wrote: Not usually that far out or that price Max. However $51 Astern and $41 Impending have whet the appetite. If Gingernuts comes up the $21 will be absolute luxury but it's marginal now imo.

I'd rest on my laurels, I think. It is hard to imagine that you have insights months ahead of time, that don't function near to race day, as well, but what would I know !

Futures betting no doubt can have its rewards, but I would say it is strictly for people who have private insights into, for example horses having made great improvement, or having unexposed ability. Otherwise, it is just a heavily loaded game. I recall an old bloke that told me he had a horse running in a CC-MC double for 80,000 pounds.....many millions of $ today, it ran second in a photo. I cannot imagine that bad that would be. But, his insight came with the first leg winner, knowing the connections, and taking their word that the horse was a world-beater, though almost unknown when noms came out. What caught him was that the eventual MC winner was similarly unheralded when he laid the bets.

I'm sure it is most satisfying to get it right, at big odds. But, as you say, fortune plays a big part. I know a bloke who blew up for years about the Dunaden/Red Cadeaux photo....still thinks it should have been a DH at least. What really hurt was the big odds he got, early on.

I'd say a DH would have suited him nicely, he was not a small punter, and he backed a few early on at big prices, including Red Cadeaux. A six-figure payout at least, I'd say. But, that is gambling.

Is there any science to the often stated belief that horses do better when they have spelled in Queensland? Is that just the warmth? Would they do even better if the spelled in Fiji?

max manewer wrote: Tlazolteotl wrote: Is there any science to the often stated belief that horses do better when they have spelled in Queensland? Is that just the warmth? Would they do even better if the spelled in Fiji? There used to be a theory that horses that travelled north to race in QLD in the winter months, ran well when they resumed in the south later that year, but I doubt that is a fertile field to plough these days. The figures don't support the idea, in recent times.

With the emphasis on the dollar to day they are more likely on a hit an run mission, the
patience in the game has been eroded in some way, owners and trainers are being bombarded with race and structural changes at carnival times and long term plans may have gone out with the bath water imo.

Exactly, they had June AND July to themselves but no they wanted to encroach on Adelaide's May carnival and condense their's, nfi, imo, that's why a lot of horses used to bloom up there because of the spread of the meetings.

Not saying it does not happen, but there is nothing in it for the punter. Of course horses can improve with maturity, no matter where domiciled.

Nicely rounded little fella, looks forward enough and appears to be wearing plates.

Yes, I do know it's NZ WFA form 

People do not understand how good this horse is he is an absolute freak. If he draws a decent barrier in the Caulfield cup and gets even luck he will leave hartnell standing still. Was a shame he didn't get the right run yesterday as I was on at the 20s and he was backed into 5s. The 3yo autumn staying firm looks really solid after Jon Snows huge effort and dawn wall's run yesterday.

Current ratings would see him with a kilo less Carioca but I doubt he'll be at that level come weights time so 55 is pretty spot on I reckon. I'm not a fan of Bosson but that's my one reservation with this bloke. Think he's made for a CC myself. At least as good as MK