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linghi11
Champion Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Status: Offline Points: 7497 |
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Posted: 26 Oct 2018 at 1:49pm |
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Anyone end up breeding to Palentino last year? Are all of his over at the knee?
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to the victor
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v and m
Champion Joined: 21 May 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1119 |
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sun stud at kerrie, lots of runners always racing in vic but low stakes winners result so far
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45811 |
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Maybe into an Asian fire-meat recipe?
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ianb
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Queensland Status: Offline Points: 1311 |
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Not a freshman but where did Wanted end up?
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Afros
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15512 |
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That's interesting, surely he could have found a home in Aus?
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Red Hare
Champion Joined: 11 Jan 2015 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 4233 |
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The United States will stand at Moutonshoek Stud in Sth Africa.
Racing Post article quotes, The United States is a brother to Group 3 winner and 1,000 Guineas hopeful Hydrangea and a half-brother to high-class two-year-old and sprinter Fire Lily. His dam, the Pivotal mare Beauty Is Truth, is a Group 2-winning sprinter and she hails from the family of Breeders' Cup Mile hero Last Tycoon and Classic winners Tie Black and Valentine Waltz. |
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45811 |
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MOD is owned by an Oz syndicate, whilst Mshawish is owned by Al Shaqab Racing (as is Toronado) and stands by arrangement at Taylor Farms in the USA.
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Red Hare
Champion Joined: 11 Jan 2015 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 4233 |
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Did they buy him outright? He wouldn't cost them too much to maintain if he can pull 60-70 covers.
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hopeforall
Foal Joined: 30 Mar 2017 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Reckon that Master of Design might move on as well...
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Red Hare
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Swettenham also adding Mshawish to the 2017 roster.
Will be interesting to see who gets the lemon & sars... I'd reckon Equiano has run his race. |
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furious
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 25179 |
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Nothing wrong with Hussonet/Redoute's or a Danehill m x f. Also your mare is from the line of a sister of the all time great sprinters in Schillaci. So just be greatful you have a mare from such a good line. Send her to the best you can afford and do what every breeder can to bring up a healthy well educated youngster.
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GETNHI
Foal Joined: 24 Mar 2016 Location: Tasmania Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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None of the above bloodlines unfortunately, but we will see how we go. I wish i had her half sister who just sold for $700k at the chairmans.
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GETNHI
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furious
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That said if you have an O'Reilly, Savabeel, High Chaparral mare I think he fits you very well. As said above lots of nice catches in his pedigree.
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furious
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Best win by I am Invincible was a G3 also. Fell in love with Swear as a yearling and feel he could of delivered more if raced on. That's the only thing annoying me. Colt's don't have to finish racing as three year olds. It doesn't seem to have done the last few generations retirements any good. Both Written Tycoon and I am Invincible raced on and they are among or the best of their years retirements. Where are the three year olds going of four who might mature enough to at least give Winx a run for her money. All going to stud it seems.
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Aurelius
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He looks like good value for a punt at 5k.
Only knock he only won a G3 however so did Commands. |
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GETNHI
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I have my mare Realisticness booked into Swear, they notified us in March, so we jumped on it!
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Spearmint
Champion Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1468 |
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Swear !! You bloody bewdy
This horse should be a good value stallion prospect. When did they announce he was standing? |
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"Nothing in the world is so powerful as an idea whose time has come"
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Red Hare
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Spendthrift adding Swear & Hit It A Bomb to their roster for 2017.
I want to get behind these guys, but they need to play a few more trumps like Into Mischief and Malibu Moon... even Danza would be competitive in Vic. Given the exodus amongst his age group, I can't help but feel as though they've missed an opportunity to advertise Swear to their Victorian customers.
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Red Hare
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Sir Gov
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dont rate that horse at all. Reckon they will be lucky to get 70 mares
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Red Hare
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I dare say the selection process factored in the mare population within a certain radius, in addition to whatever success factors they've identified within the hypothetical matings.... then again, it might just be the marketing. The bloke does make a good business out of "high end" party hire. He could have his own show on 9Life
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Glencoe
Champion Joined: 19 Jun 2011 Location: Mt. Gambier S.A Status: Offline Points: 1942 |
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When I first read the publicity sheet I thought what a horse.
Then I went to Racing Post & looked at all his races in detail. Then I understood how cleverly written the publicity piece is. And further when looking in detail at his pedigree it is obvious why his English fee is ONLY 5000 Pounds
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Red Hare
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That Gilgai/Woodside press release mentions everything you would want to read as a new breeder, or one that sees themselves as a hobbyist looking to go up a level. The facts, as presented, are as striking as they are indisputable (although you could argue that a farm's benchmark is foals, not runners). The price is a tad offensive, but it is presented in a way that assures the customer that they will be breeding with purpose.
Gilgai is the brand, not whatsitsname. Any sense of prestige belongs with the farm, not the stallion. I would be most interested to hear any feedback from breeders on there as to what they think of their approach. Just how much mayonnaise is there on this template?
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Red Hare
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http://www.woodsideparkstud.com.au/news/230-gilgai-and-woodside-team-up-to-shuttle-cable-bay-in-2017.html |
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robbo
Champion Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1573 |
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Astern confirmed for Darley, meaning that the trifecta from the Coolmore are all retired four months later. I will be interested to see whether Russian Revolution makes it to next season - maybe he is the one for The Everest. Probably needs to add to the CV with only a handicap G1 under his belt and then underwhelming at WFA. Maybe Brisbane can fix that, though.
Stratum Star also confirmed for Widden at the seemingly attractive $11,000. Odyssey Moon at Olly Tait's Twin Hills at $8,800. |
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Glencoe
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Aurelius / Sir Gov I was taken with the Epaulettes ( so are the poms ). One thing I picked up o/s is that the Zebedees are speedy but TOUGH. They take work
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Glencoe
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REd Hare are you correct on that price?
Stands for 5000 pounds in Eng. I.e. $8000 aus Won a weak 2yo mdn at Leicester. Couldn't win at 3 and got away with a couple of group races over 1400 ms at 4 at rather longish odds. Surely the price is meant to be $8800 or do some people not realise the internet is universal
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robbo
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I agree 100%. I was no wrap on Sizzling based on his racetrack performance but have loved his yearlings. Honourable mention to Dundeel who has also thrown some crackers. |
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Red Hare
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Gilgai Farm are bringing G2 winner Cable Bay (Invincible Spirit) over. He'll stand at Woodside for $19,800.
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