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Perhaps I should be listening more intently but are Electricity companies planing on purposely having black outs across Sydney at or around 4pm this afternoon ?


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Just now: The AEMO says NSW may not have enough power capacity between 1530 - 1730 AEDT #loadshedding #blackouts
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Perhaps I should be listening more intently but are Electricity companies planing on purposely having black outs across Sydney at or around 4pm this afternoon ?



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That would be because of all those unreliable renewable energy sources that NSW doesn't have 
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Yep and we are sitting on 46 out the back and 43 in the carport.  Not looking forward to no aircon as the heat gets worst out her after 3pm!
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Mind you I'm also grateful I'm not picking up grandaughter in this heat.  The dogs just had a toilet break and it was an extremely fast one.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Mind you I'm also grateful I'm not picking up grandaughter in this heat.  The dogs just had a toilet break and it was an extremely fast one.

I put a wading pool out the back for my mutt, He said get @#$%ed I want the air conditioned lounge room.

I suspect he will not have a choice this afternoon. LOL
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Residents in NSW warned to expected rolling blackouts from 3.30pm as scorching conditions continue

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RESIDENTS in NSW and the ACT are being asked to switch off appliances between 3.30pm and 5.30pm tonight to avoid rolling blackouts across the state.

As residents suffer through a heatwave, the state government has asked residents to run their airconditioners no lower than 26C, as authorities are warning extra power use could lead to blackouts.

The Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) expects demand for electricity to be at its highest in six years this afternoon, leaving the state at risk of load shedding.

The peak period was originally reported as being between 4.30-6.30pm but AEMO has confirmed it will be between 3.30-5.30pm.

Meanwhile, the NSW opposition is questioning why only half the Liddell Power Station is operating as soaring temperatures put pressure the state’s energy supplies.

Labor leader Luke Foley says two of the coal-fired power station’s units aren’t operating on Friday and he’s demanded an explanation from the Berejiklian government.

“We’ve got the energy minister out there now on radio telling people to turn off their air conditioners, to turn up the temperature in their refrigerators, just to keep the lights on,” Mr Foley told reporters.

“What he hasn’t told us is that only two of the four units at the Liddell Power Station are operational.”

AAP understands the two units at Liddell are closed for maintenance.

Here’s what you need to know about the potential blackouts.

WHAT IS LOAD SHEDDING?

Also known as rolling blackouts or rotational outages, load shedding occurs when authorities deliberately turn off power to certain areas for short periods of time to stop the system from overheating.

It means that small groups of residents may lose power for short periods of time, to reduce the amount of power being used and stop the entire system from going down.

The idea is for the lights to go out for about half an hour in one suburb, before the blackout is rotated to another area, so that one street or community does not lose power for long periods.

Certain critical infrastructure is exempted from load shedding including hospitals, prisons and large meeting places.

About 90,000 South Australians experienced load shedding on Wednesday night at the end of a 42C day.

AEMO will make the decision on whether to start load shedding, and will then inform the operator of the NSW transmission network TransGrid to tell electricity providers Essential, Endeavour and Ausgrid to shut off power.

State governments decide ahead of time what suburbs are chosen for the blackouts, and the government in SA has even released the list showing the order that suburbs would be impacted.

WHY IS IT HAPPENING?

The AEMO has put out a notice saying it believes NSW won’t have access to enough power to meet demand this afternoon.

The state is in the grip of a heatwave, with Sydney’s CBD expected to reach 38C today, and western Sydney expected to get to reach 44C.

A TransGrid spokesman said having several hot days in a row could lead to higher electricity use as people were more likely to turn on airconditioners. People are also more likely to use more power on weekdays than weekends, when they can do other things like go to the beach or head to shopping centres to keep cool.

An AEMO spokesman told news.com.au that peak demand for Friday afternoon was forecast to hit 14,000 megawatts, close the record peak demand in NSW of 14,744 megawatts, which was set in 2011.

Energy demand rising in parts of Sydney, C Coast & Hunter as temps soar - tracking on par with record peak day on Ausgrid network in 2011

ARE RENEWABLES TO BLAME?

Unlike South Australia, which no longer has coal-fired power, NSW still gets 57 per cent of its electricity from coal.

“This scenario isn’t due to where the generation is coming from, the amount of supply needed has heightened demand, based on the weather,” the spokesman said.

According to AEMO figures from January, power from wind or solar made up just 11 per cent of the power entering the system. Hydro adds 15 per cent and gas adds 12 per cent.

By releasing the notice, AEMO is hoping electricity generators will produce more power to meet demand, and is also hoping residents will help out by reducing their electricity use. This may help to avoid load shedding.

While federal politicians have been quick to blame South Australia’s recent spate of blackouts on its high reliance on renewables, the state government has blamed AEMO’s management of the electricity grid.

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO

NSW Energy Minister Don Harwin is encouraging residents to save energy between 3.30pm and 5.30pm by:

 Turning the aircon up to 26C

 Adjusting fridge temperatures

 Switching off unused electrical appliances

 Turning off lights where it is safe to do so.

“The NSW government is doing everything we can to ensure a power outage is avoided but we encourage the community to reduce their energy use where possible,” Mr Harwin said.

AUSTRALIA SWELTERS

New South Wales, ACT, South Australia, Queensland and parts of Victoria are currently in the grips of a heatwave with cooler weather not in sight until at least Sunday.

Queenslanders will have to wait even longer for a respite with cooler conditions not expected until next week.

People living in northern Victoria are also working up a sweat before a cool change sweeps through the state, bringing much-needed relief on Sunday.

Canberra is also going to be hot with 41C today and tomorrow and 31C on Sunday.

“The Bureau of Meteorology has forecast two days of 41 degrees Celsius in Canberra so we may break the all-time record for the city’s hottest day,” Dr Liz Hanna, a climate and health expert at The Australian National University told news.com.au.

“The current record is 42.2 degrees Celsius set in 1968.”

— with AAP

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We lost power here about 3 weeks ago for 3 hours on another scorcher of a day.

I am happy to sit out the back with my mutt and have a few beers as long as it is back on in time for the All Star gane tonight.

kiss, I can not believe they are playing tonight.



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How are they going to spin NSW blackouts so that they are caused by wind turbines?Geek
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Yep and we are sitting on 46 out the back and 43 in the carport.  Not looking forward to no aircon as the heat gets worst out her after 3pm!

Same here at present .   And between 44 and 46 predicted for both Sat and Sun here .  
If we lose power it will be off to the RSL for us as they have a generator.   Or down to the river, except there isnt much water in it at present Cry
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Not Stocko beach ? 
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Rolling blackouts during heatwave = utter PR disaster.
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50 plus out back. 44 in the carport
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

How are they going to spin NSW blackouts so that they are caused by wind turbines?Geek

ARE RENEWABLES TO BLAME?

Unlike South Australia, which no longer has coal-fired power, NSW still gets 57 per cent of its electricity from coal.

"This scenario isn't due to where the generation is coming from, the amount of supply needed has heightened demand, based on the weather," the spokesman said.

According to AEMO figures from January, power from wind or solar made up just 11 per cent of the power entering the system. Hydro adds 15 per cent and gas adds 12 per cent.

 

THERE'S your problem ... 11% is too much!Dead
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Just a balmy 42 at Bankstown ... heading for the pool again shortly ... no black outs so far - touch coal!Wink
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Anyone having problem or heard anything re  NBN service today, particularly iPrimus
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So I guess we better get used to this, Global Warming you know!Cry

If we had completely shut Australia down, and removed all of the people, resulting in ZERO emissions ... the temperature would have still been 42 in Bankstown today.Cool

Found this interesting article about Global Warming ...

WA towns being evacuated as heavy rainfall causes flooding in Perth and the South West


Thursday night also recorded its lowest maximum temperature for the month of February since records began more than 100 years ago.

The BOM confirmed Thursday's maximum of 17.4 degrees was reached just after 4:00pm.

The heavy rain has caused widespread flooding and power blackouts in Perth and the south-west of the state.

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So far touch wood we have been spared any blackouts in our neck of the woods, I hope everybody is doing as well as we are.

We just watched on TV The famous Battle Of The Bastards.

Few, that was intense.


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Disgusting administration by the likes iof Baird and the Lnp is to blame for this situation
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It has nothing, zero, zilch to do with alternative forms if electricity
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The national energy market operator has admitted it moved too late to prevent Wednesday's forced blackouts. @RoryMcClaren9 #9News

They moved better today but still weren't confident in their system. Get them all back in public hands Essential services shouldn't be in this situation with companies making profit motivated decisions or indecisions 
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And the railway line cutting a swathe through Randwick took preference over this ., this bloke has pulled the wool over people' s eyes more than once.!
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Not Stocko beach ? 

Nahh,  too long to get there , and its the shark nursery ,  you know.    Take my chances with the eels in the river .  Holy dooley there are some big suckers in there  , too !!!!Cry
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

And the railway line cutting a swathe through Randwick took preference over this ., this bloke has pulled the wool over people' s eyes more than once.!

LOL.    Railway line cut by a  melted piece of track at Patterson,  ( on the main N to S line in NSW ), and XPT trains stuck both sides of it.  Last I heard , one was 180 mins late and the other 140 mins late, and still sitting , praying the air con didnt poo itself.   These are the things that happen in heat that you rarely hear about.  
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Stay Calm and build more coal fired power stations ... it's just a matter of time now.
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