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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Doubt it. That's just a stupid amount of money. Sounds like a pi$$ing contest for high rollers. A bit like the yearling sales in some ways. |
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whitt0
Champion Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 10911 |
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Whats the cost for fully accepting for the Melb Cup? $70k?
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Spearmint
Champion Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1468 |
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How bloody boring is this concept?
But let's watch this elitist super rich game take place. This is not about quality horse racing, this is about 12 lottery tickets that can be traded among the rich.One will make more money that they don't need whilst the rest can lose money that they don't need. Who cares? We already have a quality horse racing system based on black type racing that has a proven heritage, where the only thing that matters is if your horse has the quality to compete and not the amount of money you have. Anyway if Racing NSW believe that the way to market horse racing to the public is that it is elitist and for the very rich then this concept should work |
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"Nothing in the world is so powerful as an idea whose time has come"
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BlackKnight
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Sunline
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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What is it called Everest? What is it's relevance to the race?
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vaopoaljsie
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Nsw flipped the calendar two page too far . It's on feb 1 today sweethearts
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subastral
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I am sorry you fail to see the difference between the 2.
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vaopoaljsie
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Mark my words
this will be a disaster Why do you commit for three years It's a ducking hupoxrisy garbage maggot infested bowels of greedy corporate right wingers on the board who make me want to vomit Just cannot stand these puss balls |
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Magnolian Khan
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Umm. |
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Phazeal
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Lol. This:
....and this......
....could be written by the same guy.
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Baguette
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I'm not 100% certain how I feel about this concept. On one hand it's about time our highest stakemoney race reflects the horses we breed in this country. Like it or not we breed sprinter/milers and do a very good job of it. So I don't have any problem with a mega money sprint race.
I'm very confused about how it will all work. I think the key element is that the $600,000 a year " slots" in the race can be sold or leased. Does that mean one of the people who had stumped up the money could approach Lordy with the deal " I'll lease my slot in the race to Buffering for 15% of the prizemoney he wins in it"? Or Goldolphin could do the same deal with someone who had a good sprinter by one of their stallions? As I said I'm a bit confused how it works. By the way I know Buffering's retired. It's only an example. |
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TIGER
Champion Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 8533 |
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Black Caviar should do a John Farnham
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EAD
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tillyras
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2012 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 7540 |
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BC will be a little busy in October, about to deliver a foal
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djebel
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You have been hoodwinked like most other people. We breed the whole gamut of horses in this country. Our trainers - their facilities - One or the other, just do not have the ability to develop stayers. But you are right the distance is the distance to suit trainers and their abilities. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Basically that is correct. People who do not even own horses would be able to buy slots. Absolutely certain that was the case in the Pegasus. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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linghi11
Champion Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Status: Offline Points: 7496 |
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Paying homage to how hard it is to get a full field in Sydney? Like climbing Mt Everest |
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to the victor
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Spearmint
Champion Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1468 |
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Good grief no connection whatsoever. What purpose was your post supposed to do? |
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"Nothing in the world is so powerful as an idea whose time has come"
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djebel
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It's such a boring concept it has filled 4 pages worth of discussion inside 12 hours.
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reductio ad absurdum
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James
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Personally I find the idea of The Jericho Cup which was announced at pretty much the same time a much more interesting concept. No buy ins and give everyone a crack at some decent prize money.
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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James
Champion Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 7230 |
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A 4600m slog fest at Warrnambool has exciting written all over it. Should get old mate that calls the hurdles to do it
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acacia alba
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Oh, I do see the diff. Most definately. This one is for the super rich. No poor boys will get a look in here . But your reference to gimmicks made me think about what I heard people say re the Slipper. And it was pretty much what you said. Gimmicks do not last. And look how the Slipper is going . Everyone wants to be in it. And it gets bigger and better each year. So who is to say this gimmick wont kick off among the rich and famous ?? |
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animals before people.
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linghi11
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Smart people created the slipper and the less astute were jealous, this time the less astute are creating an event telling everyone but the elite to stay away These days companies and sports are falling over themselves to stay popular and relevant, to entice new audiences - but not these fellows! |
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to the victor
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Ammy42
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Agree here. Our sprint races do need more money, but I don't quite understand how this is going to work.
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rusty nails
Champion Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 11400 |
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I'm struggling to work out how they are going to sell 10 'slots', what happens if they can only sell 6?
Having said that, I'm not against the concept as long as prizemoney is not topped up. If it's self funded,it's all upside isn't it? |
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bradjm
Champion Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6175 |
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I would like to see a race put on where owners pay $3500 per month plus various other costs, the race will be run over 1260m and carry a purse of 20k
We can call it the horse trader |
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11729 |
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Which is why the TJ should have been the centrepiece of the Championships all along. And still can be if they come to their senses. Like world racing really needs another megarich 2000m race...
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Slammington
Champion Joined: 24 May 2007 Status: Offline Points: 328 |
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This concept doesn't lock out the small players because the owners of the slots can make an arrangement with anyone with a suitable runner for their horse to take the slot and split the return in some way. It does not mean you must run the same horse for 3 years in a row.
I think the likes of Waller/Gai and maybe even Baker/Joe Pride up here would be looking seriously at getting a slot, and Godolphin is obviously a given. If you're Waller why not get a slot and you can run your top sprinter if you have one, if not try and do a deal with someone like Gelagotis with Malaguerra or Matty Dale with Fell Swoop if he's in form. Usually Waller would have a sprinter worth running though, especially if it means deferring stud duties for a short period- think Zoustar, Brazen Beau, Japonisme Press Statement. The studs could take a similar approach. Maybe Newgate bring Winning Rupert out of retirement? Similarly Godolphin's approach would be interesting. They always seem to have an exceptional sprinting colt, certainly in early spring - e.g. Exosphere, Astern that usually run well in the Roman Consul on Epsom Day. Do you throw it in at the older horses a couple of weeks later when they are new 3yops, or do you keep them in training a bit longer as an early 4yo and have a crack? Someone like John Moore over in Hong Kong might be interested in taking a slot. If he hasn't got a sprinter he might look at putting his head together with the trainer of the leading sprinter over there for a crack at the race. The Japanese might be similarly minded. I don't really understand all of the knocks on the race already. If it doesn't work out, so what? It is not like it will leave a $10m black hole from other industry money. It could have some real positive spin-offs for Victoria in opening up more foreign participation in the flow through to the Manikato and Darley. And it might have the result of ensuring that a number of our best colts race on a little longer after their 3yop season, which has been a massive problem for our racing for a number of years now. Battlers aren't ruled out, because if you have one of the best sprinters someone with a slot will want to do a deal with you. I think they should be congratulated on the initiative. |
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JudgeHolden
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Irony I think you'll find, Spearmint.
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