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goldey
Champion Joined: 29 Dec 2012 Location: cairns Status: Offline Points: 5920 |
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In her Time ran .1 sec quicker than The Everest field , food for thought for that slot holder.Surely 14 slots would give the those such horses a go .
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Not really. You would then have to sell 2 more slots and who's to say which horses they choose. 12 horse field is fine. Slot holders need to be wiser about horses they use. Inglis committed to Fell Swoop a long way out from the race. Unfortunately this Spring he's a shadow of the horse that placed in the previous two TJ Smiths. They could have kept their options open and gone for In Her Time when it became apparent she was in peak form. Next year you might find a few slow owners sitting back and waiting for some of the lead up races to be resolved before committing to a horse.
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goldey
Champion Joined: 29 Dec 2012 Location: cairns Status: Offline Points: 5920 |
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Not really as i was under the impression that that slot holder who took Clearly Innocent chose between him and IHT , and did so very late in the piece . |
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Donald Hiltonson
Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 456 |
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Vega Magic was beaten by the barrier, not sure you can blame it on the jock. If h doesn’t restrain it to get some cover then it would’ve been racing about 5 wide. Not sure it finishes any closer in that scenario.
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31303 |
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Where did you think Vega Magic was going to be from that barrier? Trouble was always more likely than not.
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Speediskey
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 4116 |
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I'd either try get in very early or very late. The great sprinters are known beforehand, if you can't get one of those go for a in form horse late. |
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Doesn't mean people will always make the right call. We don't know the circumstances either. Connections of Clearly Innocent may have been more accepting of the terms offered to run in the slot. Everybody is still learning the best approach. |
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Atreus
Champion Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 329 |
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The Everest was a runaway success. That was the best field ever assembled in the history of Aussie racing
Racing NSW should not bother to seek black type status for the Everest. The G1, G2, G3, Listed system of race classification has had its day. Too many cheap G1s now as evidenced by the fact that Winx, Black Caviar and Frankel can win heaps of these G1 races without raising a sweat. Take Winx out of the Turnbull and there is no way that was a top quality field as G1 is supposed to denote The Everest now sits above G1 racing and to seek G1 status would only cheapen the Everest. In the future breeders will pay more for an Everest winning colt than they will for a colt that wins a standard cheap G1 race |
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Afros
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15306 |
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G'day Mr V'Landys!
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31303 |
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Group 0 is how Rob Waterhouse described it.If you are the most famous sprint race in the world you don't need a G1 label too. Disagree about it being the best sprint field ever. |
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Mr Grieves
Champion Joined: 28 Jan 2014 Location: Canberra Status: Offline Points: 931 |
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pretty sure Atreus is taking the p1ss
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Baghdad Bob
Champion Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 13599 |
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No doubt by your nick you really are yearling.I recall a Liston Stakes some years ago where the field comprised. Light Fingers, Galilee, Tobin Bronze, Winfreux, Bowl King, Ziema amongst the field. If that Everest field was a good as that race I will give up.
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31303 |
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Yeah- Everest winning entires- they are sure to hide that light under a bushel. No stud will want them. |
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Underground
Champion Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Location: Sydn Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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thanks, and it wasn't misplaced. beat home pretty much everyone haha. happy day$!
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Speediskey
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 4116 |
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Prizemoney boost to 13 million next year, then 1 million the next two years. So 2020 will be worth 15 million.
Wonder why they announced today? |
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cabosanlucas
Champion Joined: 15 Jun 2013 Status: Offline Points: 7363 |
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its announced now, so the infantile vlandys can have a di*k measuring contest with his melbourne counterparts and try and get some shine off the vic spring carnival. it wont work, but his big ego couldnt resist. it would have benn a better announcement at a later date when it would have got better traction. |
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Where does the extra $$ come from? Thought they'd already sold the slots for the next couple of years.
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31303 |
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22 pages here for Melbourne Cup- 28 for the Everest.
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correctweight
Champion Joined: 20 May 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2560 |
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Selling extra slots.
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jacko1
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They would have got more publicity if they announced it next week, even though they are trying to take some gloss off the Cup it hasn't really worked.
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Speediskey
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 4116 |
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Yeah it definitely isn't coming from slot sales. No way they're running a field that size. Will come from the money it's generating most likely.
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Morgan Dollar
Champion Joined: 29 Sep 2010 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 2626 |
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Go The Dollar..!
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Morgan Dollar
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i tried to post a pic... clearly didnt work haha
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Go The Dollar..!
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max manewer
Champion Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
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Did I read this increases to $13 million next year ? Paying 10% base commission on Betfair to fund this sh!T !
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Shawy38
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Yeah. Announced on Melb Cup Day of all days
Sick to death of this Melb vs Syd dick measuring contest |
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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I said last year this race CANNOT EVER be a Group 1 because the conditions don’t allow the best horses around to compete against each other without barrier.
Instead the field is controlled by a group of rich and mostly agenda/self-interest driven individuals or groups, who will be biased by their agendas and compromise the quality of the field. Very simply: if Viddora does not get a slot, the race is a gimmick and not worthy of Group status, let alone Group 1. The race is struggling to build a field of last start winners, and a last start WFA G1 winner of 2 G1 wins cannot get a slot. You see she isn’t owned by the right people. She’s owned by battlers and there’s no political reason to put her in. Meanwhile rich associates of slot holders, internationals, and a 1400-1600m horse of Godolphin’s get a run. I’d be happy to be proven wrong as I’m a racing purist who wants to see the best horses racing each other. But no way how they sell this with relentless promotion on all the platforms under their influence, it hasn’t yet convinced me it’s any more than other restricted promotional races like the Magic Millions. There’s nothing wrong with those races, and Harvey too lobbied for the quality of the fields to influence Group 1 status. But he lost that argument for good reason. If the best aren’t able to access the race to race the best, it cannot be a Group 1. |
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Tlazolteotl
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I could say the same thing about all the melbourne 1400m wfa G1s.
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Speediskey
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Why is that the pre-condition to a Group 1? Is it not just based on the average ratings of a race? In which case of course it's a Group 1. The Pegasus is a Group 1. The Arc is a Group 1 despite not allowing geldings. Last years winner was a gelding, 3 of the top 4 in the market for this one are geldings. Would it be more of a Group 1 race if those 3 weren't in it but Viddora was?
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11716 |
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Even Godolphin’s best sprinters are imports these days. What’s the point of the Australian breeding industry? Oh yeah, fast kiddies.
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early4lunch
Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Status: Offline Points: 3854 |
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Sunny,I just posted the same sentiments on another thread.Seemsto be two running
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