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Redemption
Champion Joined: 09 Apr 2017 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 5387 |
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Watch the golden slipper, her final 1000, she was just skipping along the fence beautifully, she has a very fast cruising speed, just skips along, beautiful action, and has the tank to keep going. I wont even be worried if she is 5 lengths back along the fence at the 600, because she will start skipping through them all and go BANG, at 51kg. Thanks very much. wayyyyyy over the odds, especially the place at $2.40 i want to add, she beat a damn good slipper field, and our racing is geared at a mass of two year old sprinters, so when you rise up above them and win a slipper like the way she did, it means something. this was also backed up by how she won at the valley from near last, going wide, and still caught them over the 1000m. she is very very good.
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Breeding Above All
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 715 |
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3 year old filly against the boys.. I will take a couple of the boys who broke track records and take Redkirk if it's dry..
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Breeding Above All
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 715 |
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Let me also clarify speedy quality boys.. not the B graders
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Sir Gov
Champion Joined: 17 May 2016 Status: Offline Points: 2278 |
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The most exciting race on the calendar now - looking forward to this.
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cabosanlucas
Champion Joined: 15 Jun 2013 Status: Offline Points: 7363 |
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the media and promotion for this race has been wall to wall bombardment.
it doesnt change what it is though....an overpaid oz sprinting race with oz runners. remains to be seen what happens in the future. |
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Sir Gov
Champion Joined: 17 May 2016 Status: Offline Points: 2278 |
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Much better investment than having 2nd grade foreigners taking out our staying pizemoney. I think a hurdler ran 2nd in the Cup last year?
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31448 |
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The ratings dudes, big punters and bookies are all over Vega Magic. I will be amazed if it wins but I will be suitably humble if it does.
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11729 |
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Who do you suggest takes our staying prizemoney?
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Nick
Champion Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3455 |
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Can't see any other winner than Vega or the crack sprinting filly SWR.
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maccamax
Champion Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
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Shows how open it is. People are tipping most of the field. Your selections are chasing some very smart sprinters. A top race , has really attracted the interest over the Melbourne day. |
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Speediskey
Champion Joined: 18 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 4116 |
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Let's just say I'm overseas and the only race that will be having an alarm set to watch is the Everest.
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stayer
Champion Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Status: Offline Points: 21914 |
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Seriously? What interests you? |
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WarriSymbol
Champion Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3169 |
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Let alone when looking at this race, being excited by form from a 2yo race on a bog track six months ago. |
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Probably because it's the best sprint field we've assembled in quite a while. Any bitterness about the concept should not diminish from that aspect. |
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max manewer
Champion Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
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An even race, the "ready" horse is the one to be on. I'm gunna look at the parade on TV for a lead into that. The females will figure, imo.
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Speediskey
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The fact the best sprinters of every age group have all been aimed at one race at a trip Australia dominates the world at? Far more interesting than watching one or two G1 level horses competing in one of the countless 1600m 3yo Group 1 races. |
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11729 |
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What??!!!??
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Which recent field was better? |
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11729 |
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Well I can think of plenty of six furlong races in recent years where Vega Magic wouldn’t start favourite, that’s for sure. This looks a pretty standard field of local sprinters in what seems a below average period for Australian sprinting.
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furious
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 25179 |
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Well JH the big Grey is the reigning world champion sprinter. We finally have a Slipper winner with a WFA G1 under her name as a three year old - first up also. We have a horse which has broken track records last two runs. We have the last MM winner. We have the first three home in the last two WFA T J Smith over this distance on this course and that is the best Sprint race in Australia. And plenty more horses with great records. Six of the field won their last start and that doesn't include one of the favourites. So for some reason you don't like sprinters or you don't like the fact that this race is on the calendar. People I know who have no interest in racing including the Melbourne Cup have asked what will win this race. I didn't believe in the concept to begin with and it will cause issues with the Sires List but I've come round as the field went deep and the slot holders all used good reasons for picking their horse. They didn't just pick one in their stable etc.
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Sir Gov
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Clearly taking the pxss. Ha ha |
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Shrunk in the Wash
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It's noted that judge couldn't answer your question |
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Recent years maybe. Most of us prefer to watch more than one race every 12+ months. If this wasn't a hyped up event and just a normal Spring G1 sprint everyone would be gushing at its quality and calling it the best race of the carnival. Instead the animosity over the concept is distorting opinions of it as a race in isolation. |
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Racing Carrot
Champion Joined: 02 May 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1831 |
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Looking at the fields before the race I don't know that you'd say it was clearly better than the TJ in April, probably fairly even.
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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TJ field was comparable. First 3 home there are all engaged here. I don't recall anybody questioning why people would watch the TJ at the time.
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11729 |
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Not at all. Chautauqua clearly the the best credentialed horse in the field and he appears (and the market would suggest) past his best. There are some horses with upside and maybe the race will look stronger in hindsight but there’s a chance it could look weaker. If they come through it you’d expect the best of these to line up again in the Darley. They wanted international stars. They got Brave Smash. |
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max manewer
Champion Joined: 30 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 32947 |
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It might look like a demolition derby at some stage, no prisoners will be taken in the quest for the big bucks ! The upcoming Melbourne carnival likely some deterrent to that.
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Brave Smash to demolish his rivals with a 4.3 length winning margin
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cabosanlucas
Champion Joined: 15 Jun 2013 Status: Offline Points: 7363 |
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whats the connection with j.spencer and brave smash?
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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The continued desperate clutching at an international flavour to justify millions in promotion, let alone prize money.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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