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saintly96 
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Excellent....bloody fat fingers on the phone.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 7:44am |
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We started following him here in NZ when he won his first race, but, he was a worry as he was on one rein all the time, and the gear he carried was mind boggling, Weir is to commended for what he's done, but this fellow is a very serious horse and I would love to see him go to Royal Ascot!
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AdaHunta
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 7:41pm |
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Im not knocking the horse was a good win on Saturday .........but it had that race run to suit and sprinted clear only over a mile ....
Im blown away hes now the Caulfield Cup fav .....never won over 2000m he has to be suspect at a strong 2400m .......
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Second Chance
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 7:50pm |
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Er, he won the Gp 1 Australian Cup over 2000m before running 2nd in the Gp 1 BMW over 2400m.
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JudgeHolden
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Assuming you mean beyond 2000m. I think the main thing about him is his manners actually do seem to be improving. We see a lot of talented horse that we think will come good when they learn what it's all about but full credit to Weir, he looks to have got him on the right track. Wanted to lay in a touch again but nothing like early doors.
And yes he had things to suit yesterday but he came some top class gallopers serious windburn. You might be right about 2400 (he was no match for Jameka in the BMW, but that was on a swamp), but I think he's a deserved favourite. Though I do think Flemington is clearly his track. |
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AdaHunta
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 10:55pm |
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Yeah I mean over 2000m (beyond ) glad u know what I'm talking about Judge
Like I said I'm not knocking the horse or trainer Weir is doing a great job getting the horse right has sweated up badly prior to races and is green when it matters most ......just both his 2400m runs give me no confidence the horse can sprint hard at the end of a staying trip hes never hit the line well To firm as a Favourite for a Caulfield Cup based on a 1600m run ..........is riskaaaaaaay business I think If I owned him id go Cox Plate you know he can sprint hard at the end of a 2000m race But I'm only a hack what would I know
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 11:10pm |
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I couldn't go Cox Plate over Caulfield Cup with a stayer like him and a champion like Winx heading to the Cox Plate.
Gets his last chance to win a Caulfield Cup before he's probably past it and weighted out of it. Looks to be in for a career peak and anything is possible - 2400m doesn't look a huge concern to me, but then we're all guessing to that extent.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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AdaHunta
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 11:16pm |
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How is he a Stayer ??
Hes never won a Staying race
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AdaHunta
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Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 11:30pm |
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That run on Saturday had Cox Plate written all over it good pace and lethal sprint last 400m if hes in that sort of form .......id be leaning more towards the plate ....but judge is right Flemington looks his go the Valley track could be to tight
Personally I want the Cox Plate full of the best horses I think Humidor is a worthy 2000m opponent to Winx ...the field is starting to look thin to me
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mikey
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Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 1:03pm |
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Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate back up - straight into the Melbourne Cup! The first horse to win all 3 since Rising Fast ;-)
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Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 4:21pm |
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A very odd result in light of his previous form under 2000m and his two 1400m runs this spring - very odd indeed. I didn't see the race and haven't seen a replay - any logical explanation?
Hartnell must have run a shocker. BHB can't run the distance out so that's not altogether a shock. |
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Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 4:29pm |
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Hartnell did not run a shocker but it was clearly not his best.
It was apparently run at a breakneck speed. I was on Hartnell and was quite happy where he was in the run and how he was travelling. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 4:30pm |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Sunline
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You must have forgotten his first three runs last prep over 1400m and 1600m - they were huge and he threw most of those races away with hanging in badly.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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AdaHunta
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Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 8:49pm |
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Yeah his 1400 - 1600m runs last prep were impressive because hes a 2000m horse thats his sweet spot
Look .... 2040m beaten 0.2L
2100m beaten 2L 2400m beaten 6.7L 2400m beaten 6.5L Hes had three attempts at 2000m And won them all If this horse is a stayer then I’m Mickey Mouse Don't back him in the Cups at those odds .......they are poison |
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mikey
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Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 1:14am |
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5yo now & matured.
If ridden well he will get the 3200 metres & be hard to beat for the big one. |
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Tlazolteotl
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He'd been beaten by 5.6 and 5.2 lengths over 1400m already this spring. No logical reason I can see why he would suddenly improve enough to win by 3.3 lengths over 1600m. A very odd result.
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JudgeHolden
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Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 10:02am |
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Not really. 1600m Flemington off a strong tempo is a completely different kettle of fish to a 1400m crawl around Caulfield. Very talented horse on an upward spiral who got conditions to suit. Had plenty of admirers before Saturday, and stable horses generally improve into their prep. See plenty of stranger results than that.
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Tlazolteotl
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Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 10:04am |
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If Humidor ever does something similar at 1600m I will wear a dress to church.
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Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 7:18pm |
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Damian Lane said Humidor "hung like a rusty gate and cost himself the race".
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Sunline
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Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 7:57pm |
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He did hang terribly again and looked the winner at one point but Boom Time was climbing all over him to get out and was travelling twice as well. I can't cop it wins fig it runs straight, and it was my biggest result if it won so no bias from me to say he shouldn't have won.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 8:14pm |
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There's definitely something amiss when seasoned horses hang in consecutive races & hopefully it can be diagnosed before he too breaks down.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 8:16pm |
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He has always been hanging, but it seems to be worse than usual. If only he could tell, what the problem is!!
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Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 4:58pm |
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Possibility of running in the Cox Plate
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mikey
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Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 5:15pm |
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A Cox Plate placing is probably a better option than running down the track in the Melbourne Cup. It does look as though he will struggle to get 3200 metres.
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Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 5:30pm |
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Not sure I can entertain him after a poor run 2 ago, and now on the sharp back-up after a gut buster. Also i'm pretty certain the valley won't suit given his laying-in tendencies.
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Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 5:56pm |
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Weir was furious with the ride. Horse having a gallop tomorrow before acceptances, that will make the decision.
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Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 6:01pm |
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Are you sure Khan he was talking about Humidor, and not Amelie's Star?
That is the second week in a row where Craig Williams has ridden a horse in a feature race and did the wrong thing from the barrier. I understand getting Amelie's Star forward, but he must of got a extra fee for getting to the post first, first time around. If I am an owner of a horse in a big race, right now, I am banning Williams from riding my horse. |
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Posted: 23 Oct 2017 at 6:10pm |
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If you are an owner of a horse you would not have it in the Weir factory.
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reductio ad absurdum
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It’s one of the big 3 majors for the Spring carnival, so I can understand owners wanting to run in the Cox Plate. But his best runs have been at Flemington, so it would be more sensible to wait for the Mackinnon Stakes 2000m. They could then back up in the Sandown Classic 2400m after that. |
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