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Shawy38
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He is heading to Rangal Park Stud, Euroa. Just down the road from Lindsay Park.
Fee of $6600 |
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Jamal
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He was no star but he was no slouch either. |
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Redemption
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I actually liked his recent runs.
By that I mean, they were retirement runs, and a horse running through an injury, but he gave his all through it. He is a top horse. And I am especially fond of him, because I landed odds of $100 for his Caulfield Cup win. :) |
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Sister Dot
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More Than Ready & Sir Tristram didn’t win a G1. ST won 2 out of 19 starts.
Boomtime has hope yet. He’s not linebred, but strong on both sides. Who knows? 🤞 |
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Jamal
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Closer to the bottom in terms of his Timeform rating for that Caulfield Cup win? Is that what you mean read on social media that Boom Time is the worst Caulfield Cup winner in 50 years. |
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Jamal
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Closer to the bottom in terms of his Timeform rating for that Caulfield Cup win. |
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jacko1
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He seemed a handy enough stayer but if you ranked CC winners he'd be much closer to the bottom than the top. Still, all the best at stud.
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TJMitchell
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That's the emoticon I would've gone with in the first place. More tongue in cheek feel to it than a simple smiley.
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Second Chance
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The emoticon suggests tongue in cheek TJ.
ps most of us know that all CC winners are swabbed as a matter of course.
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TJMitchell
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Pretty sure they always swab the winners SC. Nice attempt at dragging the man down though. Post race samples from following horses: R1 - Our Crown Mistress (winner), R2 - Snitzepeg (winner), R3 - Pinot (winner), Rimraam (NZ) (second placegetter), R4 - Cliffs Edge (winner), Tangled (second placegetter), R5 - Kiwia (winner), Samovare (second placegetter), R6 - Ulmann (winner), Burning Front (second placegetter), R7 - Snitty Kitty (winner), Super Too (second placegetter), Property (unplaced), R8 - Boom Time (winner), Single Gaze (second placegetter), Johannes Vermeer (IRE) (third placegetter), R9 - Global Glamour (winner), Cool Passion (second placegetter), Foxplay (unplaced), R10 - Fuhryk (winner) |
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Second Chance
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Did they swab him after his Caulfield Cup win?Nah, owned and trained by a cleanskin.
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crooked_gambler
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Yes I know that
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Jamal
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The point I was making was that Boom Time joined a small but elite list of WA horses winning a 2400m to 3200m Group 1 race outside WA, which doesn't happen often. |
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crooked_gambler
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Boom Time is not in the same postcode as Northerly imho
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Jamal
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I remember the 2015 WA Derby. The race on paper didn't appear strong but it turned out to be pretty strong because the winner Delicacy went on to win the Oaks and Derby in South Australia and Boom Time (who ran 3rd) went on to win the Caulfield Cup.
Which brings me to my next point: Now that Boom Time hasofficially been retired, we can look back on his career. In 2017 joined a small but elite list of WA horses to win a 2400m-3200m G1 race outside WA in the past 20 years: 2017: Boom Time - Caulfield Cup (2400m) 2015: Delicacy - SA Derby (2500m) 2004: Plastered - VIC Derby (2500m) 2002: Northerly - Caulfield Cup (2400m) 1999: Rogan Josh - Melbourne Cup (3200m) |
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Jamal
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INDUSTRY BACK Timeform Recap - 2017 Caulfield Cup 23 October 2017 by Racingandsports.com.au Timeform recap the 2017 Caulfield Cup won by Boom Time for Lindsay Park and jockey Corey Parish. The big egalitarian handicaps are one of the best things about Australian racing and, despite recent tinkering with handicapping rules in an attempt to skew things in favour of better performed horses, the 2017 Caulfield Cup went to a horse with a humble record in Boom Time. We'll stop short of calling the now 117-rated Boom Time a battler, but he looks something of a throw back winner of the Caulfield Cup. He wasn't an Oaks or Derby winner or a highly-rated raider from abroad. In 14 runs for Lindsay Park before Saturday Boom Time had come from winning restricted handicaps to be a 115-rated Group 3 placegetter. He'd made big strides, and with plenty falling his way on Saturday he was able to eek out a couple more pounds - and they were valuable pounds! Boom Time's rating rises from 115 to 117. That's the lowest winning rating of the Caulfield Cup in the last 10 years but matches the rating returned by 2007 winner Master O'Reilly who, coincidentally, was the last horse to back up from the Herbert Power and win the Cup. The following year Viewed ran 10th in the Caulfield Cup before going on to win the Melbourne Cup at Flemington and, quite surprisingly, he was the last horse to come through the Caulfield Cup and win at Flemington on the first Tuesday in November. Boom Time and Corey Parish, picture Quentinjlang.com The pace of the race was genuine, but not as outrageous as it may have seemed given Sir Isaac Newton's front-running antics. Ironically, Sir Isaac Newton got the physics all wrong, and he paid severely for using far too much energy early - but he did so individually. Kathy O'Hara did a terrific job on runner-up Single Gaze, letting Isaac make a mess of things on his own while keep her filly travelling at close to an ideal tempo. The finishing speed of the Caulfield Cup, expressed as a percentage of overall race speed from the 600m, was 102%. Single Gaze's individual finishing speed was 103.7%. The horse in the race that looks most likely to snap the Caulfield Cup's Flemington drought is the fifth placed Marmelo who caught many eyes humming home having been ridden conservatively early. The idea that the high pressure up front flattered him is shown up somewhat by the closing speeds. Marmelo's closing speed of 105.9% was even better when taken from the 1000m mark. It was a sustained close and his rating of 119 at Caulfield looks more likely to be in the mid-120s by the time we get to Flemington. The other key point regarding Marmelo is that he is a lot more than just his Caulfield performance. As we know, the Kergorlay has been used as a springboard to Melbourne Cup success in the past but it is his win in the Prix Barbeville that punters should be keying on to. That was run on quick ground. Racing and Sports assessment of the going at Chantilly that day was very similar to where Flemington will likely be on Cup Day if not slightly quicker. That's a big tick for him, as is the time that he ran, 1.9 seconds quicker than any horse over the Chantilly 3000m in the past decade. The runner-up Bateel has improved over the course of the season and is now a Group 1 winning mare with a rating of 123 and the third-placed Travelling Man has been consistent throughout the French staying season - beaten no more than 1.7 lengths in five subsequent starts having been 3.5 lengths from a rampant Marmelo that day. The best performances away from the Cup came from Cliff's Edge and Snitty Kitty who both ran to 116 winning the Caulfield Classic and Sprint respectively. The Classic was select in numbers but strong for it's kind and while 2500m looks far from a given for Cliff's Edge he is at least as talented as any horse on the Derby path on deeds to date having posted a strong time from the front and not for the first time. Snitty Kitty also produced a good overall time and encouragingly she did so in a controlled fashion. She was swift but not searing through the first 400m before ramping it up passing the 600m and going right on with it. She's got a series of good times to her name but importantly she's run times with some substance to them. She's no squib! First up behind her was Property who was having his first run as a three-year-old having been a smart juvenile last season. He could be considered disappointing but ultimately ran to 113 - just three pounds shy of his peak last season - and did so with the leaders having had complete control and the speed to make the most of it. He didn't lay a glove on them but he blew off the cobwebs in good enough style to remain high up in thoughts heading towards the Coolmore in two weeks time. 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Jamal
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Boom Time's peak Timeform rating was 117 in the Caulfield Cup. There is a bit of debate at my work at the moment as to who would win out of Rogan Josh and Boom Time at 2400m. |
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Rhino
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No real knock on the horse. He just seemed to produce a peak rating in the CC that was way higher than anything he did previously or he produced after. Yes I understand he had tendon injuries.
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Jamal
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*gutsed it out
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Jamal
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Maybe he did however his run prior to his Caulfield Cup win was full of merit. He ran 4th in the Herbert Power Stakes (56.5kg) and was on the pace and cursed it out to run 4th..only 2.4 lengths away from the winner (Lord Fandango - 53kg). Before that he ran 3rd in the JRA Cup. So his form was pretty good. |
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Sister Dot
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Wish I had a horse that could pull off G1 flukes 🤔😁
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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Rhino
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Did this horse "fluke" a CC win?
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Jamal
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Boom Time
Sire: Flying Spur Dam: Bit Of A Ride Win Distance Range: 1600m - 2500m Prize Money: $2,554,125 Career Record: 42 starts: 8-3-7 Win Strike Rate: 19.0% (5.25 races) Win/Place Strike Rate: 42.8% (2.33 races) Major Wins 2017 Group 1 Caulfield Cup (2400m hcp) 2017 Listed Mornington Cup Prelude (2000m hcp) 2015 Listed Melvista Stakes (2200m sw) Best Minor Performances 4th: 2017 Group 2 Herbert Power Stakes (2400m hcp) 3rd: 2015 Group 2 WA Derby (2400m sw) 3rd: 2017 Group 3 J.R.A Cup (2040m hcp) 3rd: 2015 Listed JC Roberts Stakes (1800m sw) |
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Jamal
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Was hoping Boom Time would go back to WA and stand at stud. |
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crooked_gambler
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D Hayes owns him outright.
Looking to do a deal with a stud in NZ |
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Jamal
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Hopefully he can do well at stud
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Jamal
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A good horse from WA who became a Caulfield Cup winner and no one can take that away from Boom Time.
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Batman
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Great decision. Thank you Edited by Gay3 - 08 Jun 2019 at 7:13pm |
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Gambling has brought our family closer together. We had to move to a smaller house.
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Co-trainer Ben Hayes announced moments after Boom Time had crossed the line that the 2017 Caulfield Cup winner was officially retired.
Boom Time, who injured a tendon for the second time just 12 months ago, has struggled to be competitive in five runs this autumn, with the rising eight-year-old entire finishing his career with 42 starts for eight wins and earnings of more than $2.5 million. |
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Venus
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And the start before as well. I have no idea why Hayes is persisting now. |
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