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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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All good. That's what you get when you copy and paste something from fb
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Black Prince 2
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Looks an absolute power house , wow . |
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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He's in a 1400 at Warrnambool on Thursday
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Black Prince 2
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Cheers MK . Be interesting to see how far he gets this prep, that is in distance and class. |
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Sunline
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I have had a decent size bet at $2.4 on Plein Ciel today.
Granted Moss 'n' Dale is a mudlark who is fit and in form, but I have Plein Ciel a class above and he can win this fresh like he did first up last prep despite blowing a gale. $2.3 is still around. I feel he SPs closer to evens.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Magnolian Khan
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Why so wide?
Six wide the trip is not a good way to be riding this horse |
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Black Prince 2
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Ride him too arrogant , too far back , too wide was still closing in on them at the finish, if he came up the inside and reached the winner he probably wins |
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BlackKnight
Champion Joined: 10 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3096 |
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Agreed - could have poked along at the back rather than swinging so deep.
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3blindmice
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Who is Pla ciel?
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tillyras
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2012 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 7540 |
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Isn't the n silent?
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3blindmice
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No, it gets lost but if you're trying to use the French it ain't Plaa
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Sunline
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Shocking ride. He couldn't have rode it any better if he was trying to get it beat. No urgency to tack on, lost touch at least twice, then with acres of space on the rail and through the middle he pushes very deep and gave away at least 5 lengths to the winner.
Diabolical. |
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Manny G
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2016 Location: Moe Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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best horse won on the day - thanks for the 3.50 it was very nice on the day
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Keep serving up the overs please
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Second Chance
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Reckon both you and Sunline might both be just a tad biased.
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Xavier
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This horse got beat though |
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Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Manny G
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2016 Location: Moe Status: Offline Points: 283 |
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nothing beats self interest - proper form students backed Moss N Dale into fav so there was a reason ! The best horse won on the day and he was the favourite so everyone's happy
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Keep serving up the overs please
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Aurelius
Champion Joined: 08 Apr 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4474 |
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Agree, there are no hard luck stories in a 6 horse race.
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Aurelius
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Don't agree with the proper form students bit though Manny, that is crap.
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Sir Gov
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The best horse won?
Or the best horse on that day?
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Smoke and Mirrors
Champion Joined: 10 Sep 2016 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
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This is the Plein Ciel thread,can we discuss the actual horse and not someone elses horse Cheers
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"Go Hard or Go Home”
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Aurelius
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The Best Horse and Jockey combo Won 'on the day' Sir Gov. I Layed off onto Plein Ciel cos I wasn't as confident as Bro so we came out square. Peter G. |
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Black Prince 2
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Moss n dale, third up , rock hard fit , known heavy tracker , fav in market , ridden a treat didn't cover any ground was clear of trouble , found right part of track . City winner. Wins
Plein Ciel first up, didn't look rock hard fit, although looked fitter than first up last time, untried on heavy track, gives leader 7 lengths and is two lengths off second last horse in running, Covers extra ground, fans 15 wide after having a muddling run, storms home for a fast finishing 1.5 length 3rd . class horse , bigger fish to fry over further distance. That's racing |
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Aurelius
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adeb ba da deba thats all folks!
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Sir Gov
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Is Moss n Dale the better horse? I think that is what Manny was saying? Or did Plien Ciel just race lengths below its best |
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Black Prince 2
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I read he expressed it as the best horse "on the day" meaning he was primed for the win and all stars aligned . Can I add 13 starts for 7 wins that's pretty damn good. MND has as many wins as PC has had races. I sill think PC has a lot more improvement to come though. As far as the better horse, only time will tell |
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Sir Gov
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MND also won in Sydney - much tougher than those in Melb.
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Magnolian Khan
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Why are we discussing Moss and Dale on this thread. Start a Moss and Dale thread if you want to waffle on about him
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Aurelius
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I got your question to him and it was relevant and I think you know the answer.
Of course Moss 'n' Dale is not a better horse. The smart money I think was for Plein Ciel it was a dog of a ride, reminded me of Billy Idol on Veandercross. I did say that there are no excuses in a 6 horse race and it is a throw away line that is kind of true. Plein Ciel could be a very good horse, I liked the fact he was sweating profusely down his neck, white lather which spells the end for most horses however he flew home. There are bigger and better things in store for him who knows he might even sneak into a Caulfield Cup field one day. Manny used self interest as the evil of all mankind yet then proceeded to make comments full of his own self interest. Winners are grinners and the rest can please themselves is a well known saying however I think it is a weak outlook. |
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Black Prince 2
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Aurelius perfectly said .
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Atreus
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Plein Ciel was given a perfectly good ride. Had every possible chance. Plein Ciel ran well. It is just that Moss 'N' Dale ran better
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