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    Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 6:13pm
The JMac has stood himself down from riding!
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Racing NSW Stewards Interview Licensed Jockey James McDonald

Acting on intelligence received, Racing NSW today conducted an interview of licensed jockey James McDonald, relative to his association with a known punter and that punter’s betting activities.

Having regard to the evidence adduced at that interview, Racing NSW Stewards issued a charge against James McDonald under AR83(d), which states:

AR 83. Every jockey or apprentice may be penalised -
(d) If he bet, or has any interest in a bet on any race, or contingency relating to Thoroughbred racing involving a race in which he is riding. For the purposes of this rule, bet includes a lay bet (as defined in AR175B(7)).

The details of the charge being that he had an interest in a bet on the horse Astern to win in Race 1 (Surf Meets Turf Plate) at Royal Randwick on Saturday, 5 December 2015, being a horse that he rode in that race.

James McDonald was not required to enter a plea.

Subsequent to the charge being issued, Stewards indicated they would consider exercising a discretion under AR8(z) to suspend his licence on the basis that his ongoing participation would pose an unacceptable risk to, prejudice or undermine the image, interests or integrity of racing.

Upon application from James McDonald, the Stewards acceded to his request that in the circumstances he would be permitted to voluntarily stand himself down from riding immediately pending the hearing of the charge.

Mr McDonald was advised that should he seek to withdraw his application to voluntarily stand down, he would be required to attend a hearing before the Stewards and make submissions in respect to AR8(z).

Stewards also advised James McDonald that they would continue their investigations in relation to the intelligence received and reserved their position to issue additional charges should the evidence establish any further breaches of the Rules of Racing.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 6:24pm
What an idiot. Apparently $30K? prizemoney for the winning jockey isn't enough of a win.
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Sorry wrong race. Thought it was in the Coolmore for some reason.
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James McDonald charged over betting scandal involving group 1 winner Astern

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Published: November 15, 2016 - 6:17PM

One of Australia's leading jockeys has been dragged into a betting scandal with James McDonald voluntarily standing himself down from riding after being charged over the placement of a bet on Astern in his first race start.

Racing NSW stewards on Tuesday interviewed the retained rider for Sheikh Mohammed's Godolphin racing empire, the largest operation in the world, over the betting activity on the stallion prospect prior to him winning on debut at Randwick in December last year.

The Australian rules of racing ban any jockey from backing or laying any horse or from having an interest in any bet on a race.

Astern, which went on to win the $1 million group 1 Golden Rose in September as a three-year-old started at an SP price of $3.50 before thrashing his rivals on December 5 in 2015. His official price touched $4.60 prior to the race before the late flurry of money.

Fairfax Media understands a well-known professional punter facilitated a bet for McDonald on the race, which Astern comfortably won by two-and-a-half lengths.

Stewards told McDonald during an interview on Tuesday they would consider using a power to suspend McDonald's licence given his ongoing riding would undermine the integrity of the sport.

But McDonald advised them he would relinquish his licence until the charge could be heard.

Stewards will continue their investigations into the incident before a hearing is arranged.

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This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/james-mcdonald-charged-over-betting-scandal-involving-group-1-winner-astern-20161115-gspzac.html

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Yet trainers with Positives are allowed to continue training and one Harness trainer in Vic with a positive can continue to train and drive because he has tardy lawyers.
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If found guilty I will be interested to see what penalty is handed out in comparison to the wet lettuce leaf Oliver was slapped with.
Integrity in racing is everything and it seems to be missing at just about every level of the sport this year from board, steward, trainer and jockey.
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Jockeys should be allowed to back horses they ride I reckon.

At least they'll know how we feel when they have a terrible ride. Wink
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Originally posted by howard moon howard moon wrote:

Jockeys should be allowed to back horses they ride I reckon.

At least they'll know how we feel when they have a terrible ride. Wink

I used to think that as well but changed my mind. You are best mates with one of the other jockeys and he puts a bet on for both of you then you just make sure your horse runs into dead ends all the way down the straight while your mate collects for both of you.
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Is there a mandatory penalty now for this? Ollie got 10months, Shinn 15, Robl 12...??
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This in no way compares to Oliver. Oliver backed a horse he was riding against and that horse beat his horse and won the race. Logic then questions how he rode his own horse.

I'm not suggesting James gets off without penalty, but no one should compare it to Oliver. What did Shinn and Robl cop? From memory they only bet in races they weren't riding in and they didn't lay any horses. Could be a more relevant comparison.
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His 'inside info' was lay anything I ride down the straight mate
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How could he be so stupid
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Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

This in no way compares to Oliver. Oliver backed a horse he was riding against and that horse beat his horse and won the race. Logic then questions how he rode his own horse.

I'm not suggesting James gets off without penalty, but no one should compare it to Oliver. What did Shinn and Robl cop? From memory they only bet in races they weren't riding in and they didn't lay any horses. Could be a more relevant comparison.

Fair point.
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All , sorry MOST jockeys I know punt , the whole Industry revolves around it and most jockeys have probably been around tracks and betting rings since they were tiny tackers.
He backed his own horse on this occasion , give him 3 months and a warning but I hope they don't make an example out of him to make up for their incompetence in other areas of stewardship.
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Unlucky it's his first ever bet
The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on....
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As they say, you don't get caught the first time you offend.
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

As they say, you don't get caught the first time you offend.

Except for Damien. It was his first time.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

As they say, you don't get caught the first time you offend.


Except for Damien. It was his first time.


Please.... He threw $10k on a horse he wasn't riding! At lest JMac backed his own horse.
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Well well how about that,  still get a laugh over the day he (blatantly) came down the wrong side of the track down the straight, now it's clear - feigned Shocked

 
 
Don't really know who's who in the zoo at the races or on this site for that matter nor care  really but it again shows - best  keep to your own devices kids when it comes to racing Wink
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I'm surprised how long this has taken to come out.It's common knowledge in the betting community that this kid is a very large bettor and tips to heavy handed punters.The article doesn't mention the 50k he had on astern when they won the golden rose.....hmmmmm.
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New Lambo prices go thru the roof? 

Shinn/Robl admitted to betting over a long period of time - 300K was mentioned. Both got 12 months after appeal. 

If he's guilty I'd expect someone in JMac's privileged position to get at least a 6 months disqualification. Greed knows no bounds apparently.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

As they say, you don't get caught the first time you offend.

Except for Damien. It was his first time.



Yeah. RightLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
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JMac's father is a trainer in NZ, he is D/Q atm....Maybe James is helping his dad outOuch
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Damn good jockey, but,
Does Godolphin really want a tainted jockey riding for them?(if found guilty)
What ever he gets as a suspension or fine is nothing compared to what Godolphin could/should hand him.

What a pity.
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It must be remembered that the evidence against Oliver was very weak at best and oliver probably would have walked if he fought hence the deal being done.

Godolphin do not like bad publicity that is 1 thing I know beyond doubt.
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Silly boy.
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

As they say, you don't get caught the first time you offend.


Except for Damien. It was his first time.



Yeah. RightLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


Common knowledge it was his first bet. Also that Smerdon didn't know what the 10K in the envelope was for
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If receiving stolen goods is a crime, why can't this "well-known" punter be punished?
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