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Forbes magazine has a self-made score and a philanthropy score. From 1-10, 10 being most self-made or most philanthropic.

Trump has a self-made score of 4 - Inherited fortune and increasing it in a meaningful way, and philanthropic score of 1 - greedy tight-arsed bastard.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Forbes magazine has a self-made score and a philanthropy score. From 1-10, 10 being most self-made or most philanthropic.

Trump has a self-made score of 4 - Inherited fortune and increasing it in a meaningful way, and philanthropic score of 1 - greedy tight-arsed bastard.



Edit - the philanthropy score is 1 to 5.
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Redemption will never guess who is the world's most generous billionaire is by percentage of their fortune given away.Wink
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Was that Forbes study before or after Trump and his family's foundation shut down as a scam, Trump fined $2 million, plus a forced $2m donation to actual charities and he and his family banned from having anything to do with charity/foundations?

Nov 7, 2019 - President Trump shut down his Donald J. Trump Foundation, the ... 8 ruled President Trump and his family must pay $2 million dollars to ...
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Oh dear, love has left the room.


North Korea just called Trump an old imbecile in the latest sign the country is back on a warpath

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  • North Korean officials revived the insult “dotard” against President Donald Trump in response to his insults about North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and threats to take military action against the Hermit Kingdom.
  • North Korea has repeatedly indicated over the past weeks that it plans to act – most likely reviving intercontinental ballistic missile testing – by the end of the year should it not get significant concessions from the United States.
  • “If any language and expressions stoking the atmosphere of confrontation are used once again on purpose at a crucial moment as now, that must really be diagnosed as the relapse of the dotage of a dotard,” North Korean First Vice Foreign Minister Choe Son-hui said in North Korea’s official news agency KCNA on Thursday, Yonhap News Agency reported.
  • New satellite images show North Korea has resumed activity at a missile testing site that Trump claimed had been dismantled last year. more...
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   The Real-Life Mob Families of ‘The Irishman’? Donald Trump Knew Them

The president and his associates have long histories with the Mafia figures who populate Scorsese’s film


Martin Scorsese’s new film, The Irishman, conjures up a lost world. It depicts an era when the Mafia was so powerful that it set off alarms in the Kennedy White House, and Scorsese even hints that organized crime was behind JFK’s assassination.

But by the end of the three-hour-plus movie, the nostalgia fades and so does the pinkie-ring finery. Every made man Scorsese introduces to the viewer is snuffed out until all that’s left is Frank Sheeran (played by Robert DeNiro), a disheveled, wheelchair-bound ex-hit man who’s haunted by his memories. At the film’s end, a pair of FBI agents plead with Sheeran to talk about his victims, telling him there’s no reason to keep silent anymore because there’s no one left to protect. “Everybody’s dead, Mr. Sheeran,” one agent says. “They’re all gone.”

Well, many still remember. One person who knew the real-life mob families that show up in The Irishman is President Donald Trump.

Back in the 1980s and 1990s, Trump’s buildings and his casinos attracted underworld figures like “Fat Tony” Salerno, the Fedora-wearing, cigar-chomping boss of the Genovese crime family. Salerno, who’s portrayed in the film by Domenick Lombardozzi, supplied the fast-drying concrete that built Trump Tower and other Trump properties. 

Salerno also controlled the local concrete workers union, and when a strike shut down construction in Manhattan in 1982, the one of the few buildings that wasn’t affected was Trump Tower.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-real-life-mob-families-of-the-irishman-donald-trump-knew-them-922836/

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I just finished watching that movie a half hour ago and was going to post in the What am I watching thread. excellent movie but 4.5 hours long.
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There is also a connection between Joe Biden and Frank Sheeran. The Teamsters Union helped get Biden elected in 1973 using some unorthodox methods and they said they had a good relationship from there on.
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Lol I am watching it now, too long, will do it in stages

They say the de aging is fantastic, not so to me ,old is old
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I watched half on Friday and the rest today. I had read that the anti ageing special effects/CGI took up a sizable chunk of the $200 million budget.
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Scorsese is overrated in my opinion. How many times has he made that same movie? Seen it all before. And how you manage to spend 200 million on it is amazing.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Scorsese is overrated in my opinion. How many times has he made that same movie? Seen it all before. And how you manage to spend 200 million on it is amazing.


So is de Niro. Jeez that one facial expression he has in his acting toolbox, employed in all roles, comedy or tragedy, got old 40 years ago.
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De Niro is/has been a great actor.
As for the move The Irishman, I am trying to get into it,no luck yet.
Maybe I have seen too many Mafia movies and Scorsese's narrative style but I feel like I am watching Goodfellas
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Not that Trump is anywhere near as articulate but you can see how Trump was influenced by the reptile  Cohn Dead


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  Trump hails himself 'greatest of all presidents' as Democrats meet to prepare impeachment charges

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So much #winning

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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

De Niro is/has been a great actor.
As for the move The Irishman, I am trying to get into it,no luck yet.
Maybe I have seen too many Mafia movies and Scorsese's narrative style but I feel like I am watching Goodfellas

100 minutes in, getting into the rhythm of the film and enjoying it
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Google some of the main characters Whale. It is a pretty close to real account of very significant historical events, written by the man himself. Some people dispute small points but not many dispute the main events. Similar to Underbelly here some claims of who killed whom are disputed.

Also some interesting interviews with Marvin Elkind, Jimmy Hoffa's driver, who was caught on wire tap and ratted on the mobsters are out there. Most are a few years old.
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My God, where do you start with this bizarre unhinged racist garbage?


Jewish groups denounce Trump's 'vile' remarks at Israeli-American Council

BY REBECCA KLAR - 12/08/19 01:00 PM EST

Jewish groups criticized President Trump for using anti-Semitic tropes while speaking to the Israeli-American Council on Saturday night. 

The Jewish Democratic Council of America said his remarks were “deeply offensive” in that they repeated “negative stereotypes that have been used historically to target Jews.” 

The remarks doubled down on the group's critique that Trump is the “biggest threat to American Jews,” which the group highlighted in an ad released last month.

“We strongly denounce these vile and bigoted remarks in which the president – once again – used anti-Semitic stereotypes to characterize Jews as driven by money and insufficiently loyal to Israel,” Jewish Democratic Council Executive Director Halie Soifer said in a statement Sunday. 

“He even had the audacity to suggest that Jews ‘have no choice’ but to support him, and that we should ‘get people out of [our] country’ in order to increase support of Israel,” she added.

During the Israeli-American Council’s 2019 national summit in Hollywood, Fla., Trump told the crowd, “A lot of you are in the real estate business because I know you very well.”

“You’re brutal killers, not nice people at all, but you have to vote for me. You have no choice,” he continued.  

He went on to criticize Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), a leading Democratic presidential candidate, saying, “You're not going to vote for Pocahontas.” 

"You're not going to vote for the wealth tax," he added. "Yeah, let's take 100 percent of your wealth away," Trump said.

He also said, “We have to get the people of our country, of this country, to love Israel more.” 

“We have to get them to love Israel more because you have people that are Jewish people, that are great people — they don't love Israel enough,” Trump said. 

Left-leaning Jewish advocacy group J Street similarly hit the president over his speech. 

“The President of the United States is incapable of addressing Jewish audiences without dipping into the deep well of anti-Semitic tropes that shape his worldview,” the group tweeted Sunday. 

“We’re not going to hold our breath waiting for Trump's supporters to speak out. We are going to work tirelessly to defeat this president and those who’ve enabled him 11 months from now,” J Street added.

Soifer pointed out that Trump, in fact, does not have the support of the majority of American Jews. 

American Jews do have a choice, and they’re not choosing President Trump or the Republican Party, which has been complicit in enacting his hateful agenda,” she said. 

Soifer said Jewish support for the GOP has been slashed in half since Trump took office, from 33 percent in 2014 to 17 percent in 2018, and she added that the decrease was because “Trump’s policies and rhetoric are completely antithetical to Jewish values.”

“An overwhelming majority of Jews are both pro-Israel and anti-Trump because of his incendiary rhetoric targeting our community and others, and because his symbolic gestures on Israel have not made America or Israel more secure,” she said. 

This is not the first time American Jewish groups have called out Trump for invoking anti-Semitic tropes to suggest that Jewish Americans have a loyalty to Israel above the U.S. 

The Jewish Democratic Council of America and J Street were among groups to condemn Trump in August when he said American Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/473578-jewish-groups-denounce-trumps-vile-remarks-at-israeli-american

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i believe you start with him losing the next election - he's almost toxic now, god knows what he will be like come election time next year
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get on Baltimore ravens PT - trumps derogatory comments are driving them to the superbowl final.
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James Comey was booked to go on Fox and Fiends tomorrow morning to be attacked about the IG findings.

The report is so damning to the Trump conspiracy crap that they rang him and cancelled.

He has gone on MSNBC instead.
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Marble, 3rd February, that is close to the Iowa Caucus where the next President gets a jump on the rest of the Democrat field. Could be a double opportunity.Thumbs Up
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Not much chance of this Jimmy.

James Comey wants Attorney General Bill Barr to apologize to the FBI and admit he lied -
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WTF, what does this mean Confused

“You’re brutal killers, not nice people at all
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Jared and Ivanka and all their Jewish friends too?
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What kind of fish was it?
A fish , the kind you eat

Where did you get it ?
In the fish shop.
You bought a fish and you don't know what effing kind of fish it was ?

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Never put a fish inside the car, you never get rid of the stink.
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