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8 to 1 = PT's posts to others in this sadly decling thread that nobody cares about? ... seems right!Thumbs Up

Might leave him to enjoy his own company ... waddaya say stayer?Tongue
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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I don't care about weirdos counting threads.
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You two have been saying for 892 pages that you dont care, yet here you are again, Friday night specials. 

If only Gai's horses were this consistent it could have saved Doc about 3,000 pages of waffle.Thumbs Up
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Doc, before you go(for the 175th time) did you see a New York appeals judge overturned a lower court ruling and sent back one of two emoluments cases back for the lower court to get it right.

Another Article of Impeachment right there.Thumbs Up

How many articles do Democrats have to examine now in this rolling Trump crime spree?
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I don't care about weirdos counting threads.




Lol @ you calling other people weirdos. You should review some of your own posts. Like the one where you told us you spent 3 months in Norway chained up in the basement of some bondage-loving swinger couple.
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Election 2020: A full year of Trump and Biden babbling at each other? Please, let's not

Trump and Biden both sound increasingly incoherent. Democrats still have a chance to nominate someone else


https://www.salon.com/2019/09/13/election-2020-a-full-year-of-trump-and-biden-babbling-at-each-other-please-lets-not/






Beyond headline adjectives, the articles about Biden in the Democratic primary debate Thursday and Trump's counterprogramming speech in Baltimore focused heavily on both men's inability to handle the baseline duty of the politician, which is to communicate ideas clearly to voters.

Biden's performance at the Democratic debate was often confused, but the standout moment came when he was asked what needed to be done to "repair the legacy of slavery " and he answered by saying that parents need social workers because  "they don’t know what to play the radio" or to "make sure you have the record player on at night," a technology that only twee hipsters use anymore. (I am one, so don't @ me.)

That comment was incoherent yet still somehow kind of racist, a combo that's increasingly coming to define the Biden campaign.

Trump, let it be said, was no more coherent Thursday, despite having the benefit of a teleprompter. He ranted about how energy-efficient lightbulbs are the reason why "I always look orange" and made fun of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, for having Spanish and Maltese surnames (respectively). He called his vice president "Mike Pounce."

It was incoherent and super-duper racist, a combo that has come to define the Trump presidency.

This is a admittedly touchy subject, talking about the possibility of an election defined by two older men — Biden is 76 and Trump is 73 — rambling nonsense at audiences and at each other. Certainly, people are within their rights to say it was ageist when former HUD Secretary Julián Castro taunted Biden for allegedly forgetting the details of his own health care plan.

Ironically, Biden was actually keeping his story straight on that particular subject. But it's also fair to note that he repeatedly lost the plot during the debate and appeared, at one point, to forget Sen. Bernie Sanders' name.

Concerns about mental acuity aren't just about age. After all, Sanders is older than both of those men, at 78. Like him or not, he's sharp and energetic, and no one can deny he communicates his ideas well. Sen. Elizabeth Warren is slightly younger, at 70, but has the wit and energy of a woman half her age. Such is the great injustice of the aging process, which impacts different people at different rates for different reasons, often reasons beyond their control.

It's not fun to think about, especially since the unpleasantness of age is coming for us all. But we have to talk about it. This is the presidency of the United States. Sharpness, clarity and coherence matter.

With Biden and Trump, it might not even be about age, or at least just about age. The rambling and incoherence is just as likely the result of both men living lives of almost unimaginable privilege for decades, Trump as a celebrity businessman and Biden as a U.S. senator, starting in 1972, followed by eight years as vice president.

These two men, in other words, are simply used to being able to prattle on, confident that people around them will nod indulgently, rather than challenge them to make sense. Anyone who has been around powerful older men has likely witnessed this behavior, even without neurological decline.  It's hard to stay coherent when no one ever demands it of you.

Biden and Trump have gone soft. Trump was likely always soft, drifting through life on his daddy's money. And the kid-glove treatment that Biden has grown accustomed to was evident in the way the media covered Castro's insults, as cable-news pundits rushed forward to shame Castro instead of considering, for a moment, whether he has a point about the dangers of running a candidate who can't keep track of what he's saying.

Warren and Sanders, on the other hand, have come at politics from an underdog perspective, and have stayed sharp because they are routinely challenged on their ideas and must continually practice their rhetorical skills.




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That presumes Biden wins the nomination. At the moment Warren is favorite to get it.
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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I don't care about weirdos counting threads.




Lol @ you calling other people weirdos. You should review some of your own posts. Like the one where you told us you spent 3 months in Norway chained up in the basement of some bondage-loving swinger couple.

Shows the state of your mind that you can remember.

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The extent of my interest in the upcoming elections was shown on the news, take any channel.

You must be somewhat worried pt at the calibre of your candidates.
So the bloke from Texas reckons he will ban guns.
How close can he get pt? 
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I think if there was a market for Vice President candidate, he would be pretty short the way Texas is collapsing for the GOP. 39 electoral college votes in a notionally RED state would win the election.


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Btw O'Rourke got a death threat from a Texas Republican congressman Briscoe Cain after proclaiming he would ban AR-15 and AK-47 guns. 

Pretty bad.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I don't care about weirdos counting threads.




Lol @ you calling other people weirdos. You should review some of your own posts. Like the one where you told us you spent 3 months in Norway chained up in the basement of some bondage-loving swinger couple.


Shows the state of your mind that you can remember.

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When someone tells the forum that instead of exploring a foreign country they decided to spend their 3 months indoors with some couple who engaged in bizarre sexual practices it is not easily forgotten. The fact that you have just shows the star of YOUR mind. Probably not on the mush level but well on the way.
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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I don't care about weirdos counting threads.




Lol @ you calling other people weirdos. You should review some of your own posts. Like the one where you told us you spent 3 months in Norway chained up in the basement of some bondage-loving swinger couple.


Shows the state of your mind that you can remember.

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When someone tells the forum that instead of exploring a foreign country they decided to spend their 3 months indoors with some couple who engaged in bizarre sexual practices it is not easily forgotten. The fact that you have just shows the star of YOUR mind. Probably not on the mush level but well on the way.

Wtf are you on about?
Can you track down that post for me?
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Thanks PT.
I guess E&E apologises now.
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I think not.
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You mean you think he won't, or that he has nothing to apologise for?
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Both. Very Trumpian/SloMo of you denying what is in print in front of you though. 
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Bloody hell. Read his post and read mine.
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Thanks for proving my point that there's a few "weirdos" on here.
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He may have added some more detail but his assertion that you spent months in Oslo and didn't venture outdoors and that you were in a uni with an ''open'' couple which you described as ''hell on earth'' was spot on.

I guess it comes down to what you call hell on earth. 
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Buckle up kiddies. Bolton is gone, Iran seems to have fired a shot and it is up to Trump/Pompeo to respond without Bolton as bad cop cover. 

Might have to wait till Monday for a response from Trump...you know, golf.Wink


Saudi Arabia oil and gas production reduced by drone strikes


Saudi Arabia has cut oil and gas production following drone attacks on two major oil facilities run by state-owned company Aramco.

Energy Minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman said the strikes had reduced crude oil production by 5.7m barrels a day - about half the kingdom's output.

A Yemeni Houthi rebel spokesman said it had deployed 10 drones in the attacks.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blamed the attacks on Iran saying there was no evidence they came from Yemen.

The Saudis lead a Western-backed military coalition supporting Yemen's government, while Iran backs the Houthi rebels.

In a statement carried by the Saudi Press Agency (SPA), Prince Abdulaziz said the attacks "resulted in a temporary suspension of production at Abqaiq and Khurais plants".

He said that part of the reduction would be compensated for by drawing on Aramco's oil stocks.

The situation was under control at both facilities, Aramco CEO Amin Nasser said, adding that no casualties had been reported in the attacks.

In a tweet, Mike Pompeo described the attack as "an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply".

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Is anyone surprised that alleged serial sexual offender and now SCOTUS judge Brett Kavanaugh's past continues to follow him?

The multiple times accused sexual assaulter in the White House is of course standing by his man.

A year after his confirmation hearing, Brett Kavanaugh faces a new sexual misconduct allegation

The Supreme Court justice faces a new allegation, and fresh corroboration of an old one.


A new allegation of sexual misconduct has been levied against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by journalists investigating the accusations that roiled his confirmation hearings last fall. The New York Times details new corroborations of an allegation of sexual misconduct brought by Kavanaugh’s classmate, Deborah Ramirez, as well as a previously undisclosed allegation that mirrors the one Ramirez made in 2018.

The report also found the FBI declined to follow up on any of the 25 witnesses Ramirez provided to confirm her allegation, and that the agency also did not investigate the new allegation, which accused Kavanaugh of forcing his penis into the hand of a female classmate while drunk. Ramirez has said the Supreme Court justice did something similar to her at another party, exposing his penis to her, forcing her to touch it in an attempt to get away.

These new allegations emerged just a day after the New York Times reported that th

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You mean you think he won't, or that he has nothing to apologise for?




Why would I apologise? That wasn’t even the post.

Regardless, the point remains. You calling others weirdos is as hilarious as it gets. Although to be fair anyone jumping on an Internet forum and pretending to a bunch of strangers that they’ve practiced law is certainly qualified to know what a weirdo looks like.
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You mean he posted twice(at least) about his ''unusual'' trip to Norway? Shocked
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You mean he posted twice(at least) about his ''unusual'' trip to Norway? Shocked



Apologies, I misread the post you quoted. Yes that’s the one. The weirdo was holed up with a couple of swingers for 3 months instead of being out exploring a new country. Yes, he certainly knows what weird looks like.
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Bigly strange indeed. LOL
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Instead of exploring a new country he was exploring a new “lifestyle”

A total weirdo for sure!
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You know he truly believes he is the only sane one in the asylum. 
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If sexual misconduct as a drunken fratboy disqualified you from high office there would be a lot of casualties - world wide. Confused
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