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This is a very significant article about WH Counsel Don McGahan's level of cooperation with Mr Mueller, and explains a lot about Trump's erratic behavior. He doesn't want to be another John Dean, going to prison for Trump.


WASHINGTON — The White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, has cooperated extensively in the special counsel investigation, sharing detailed accounts about the episodes at the heart of the inquiry into whether President Trump obstructed justice, including some that investigators would not have learned of otherwise, according to a dozen current and former White House officials and others briefed on the matter.

In at least three voluntary interviews with investigators that totaled 30 hours over the past nine months, Mr. McGahn described the president’s furor toward the Russia investigation and the ways in which he urged Mr. McGahn to respond to it. He provided the investigators examining whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice a clear view of the president’s most intimate moments with his lawyer.

Among them were Mr. Trump’s comments and actions during the firing of the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, and Mr. Trump’s obsession with putting a loyalist in charge of the inquiry, including his repeated urging of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to claim oversight of it. Mr. McGahn was also centrally involved in Mr. Trump’s attempts to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, which investigators might not have discovered without him.

For a lawyer to share so much with investigators scrutinizing his client is unusual. Lawyers are rarely so open with investigators, not only because they are advocating on behalf of their clients but also because their conversations with clients are potentially shielded by attorney-client privilege, and in the case of presidents, executive privilege.

“A prosecutor would kill for that,” said Solomon L. Wisenberg, a deputy independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation, which did not have the same level of cooperation from President Bill Clinton’s lawyers. “Oh my God, it would have been phenomenally helpful to us. It would have been like having the keys to the kingdom.”

Mr. McGahn’s cooperation began in part as a result of a decision by Mr. Trump’s first team of criminal lawyers to collaborate fully with Mr. Mueller. The president’s lawyers have explained that they believed their client had nothing to hide and that they could bring the investigation to an end quickly.

 

Mr. McGahn and his lawyer, William A. Burck, could not understand why Mr. Trump was so willing to allow Mr. McGahn to speak freely to the special counsel and feared Mr. Trump was setting up Mr. McGahn to take the blame for any possible illegal acts of obstruction, according to people close to him. So he and Mr. Burck devised their own strategy to do as much as possible to cooperate with Mr. Mueller to demonstrate that Mr. McGahn did nothing wrong.

It is not clear that Mr. Trump appreciates the extent to which Mr. McGahn has cooperated with the special counsel. The president wrongly believed that Mr. McGahn would act as a personal lawyer would for clients and solely defend his interests to investigators, according to a person with knowledge of his thinking.

In fact, Mr. McGahn laid out how Mr. Trump tried to ensure control of the investigation, giving investigators a mix of information both potentially damaging and favorable to the president. Mr. McGahn cautioned to investigators that he never saw Mr. Trump go beyond his legal authorities, though the limits of executive power are murky.

 

Mr. McGahn’s role as a cooperating witness further strains his already complicated relationship with the president. Though Mr. Trump has fought with Mr. McGahn as much as with any of his top aides, White House advisers have said, both men have benefited significantly from their partnership. more...


 http://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/18/us/politics/don-mcgahn-mueller-investigation.html

 

 


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Emperor Trump is threatening to shutdown any Corporation from Nazi style censorship of the general public.

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Why doesn't he shut down the Nazis instead?
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Why doesn't he shut down the Nazis instead?

He is.
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Clap... Trump would like to see ANTIFA shut down, along with the other major fascist group over there, the murderous and racist Black Lives Matter.

... and on the other side, CNNPT and his left wing nutter Socialist goons, want to attack and harrass, and shut down a government law enforcement agency, ICE, because they ... enforce the fcuking law!!!Wacko 

Come on CNNPT, at least pretend that you stand for freedom of speech!Wink
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Clap... Trump would like to see ANTIFA shut down, along with the other major fascist group over there, the murderous and racist Black Lives Matter.

... and on the other side, CNNPT and his left wing nutter Socialist goons, want to attack and harrass, and shut down a government law enforcement agency, ICE, because they ... enforce the fcuking law!!!Wacko 

Come on CNNPT, at least pretend that you stand for freedom of speech!Wink

Are ANTIFA or any other group not allowed their first amendment rights Doc?

Is private citizen John Brennan allowed his opinion Doc? Listening to demented terrified Trumpers, you would think not. Trump pulling his security clearance for no good reason and threatening a dozen other witnesses, suggests he doesn't like them expressing their views either.

We see Trump's idea of freedom of speech on display all the time, when he tries to get the NYT, MSNBC, CNN and anyone who reports his lies. Trying to interfere in media ownership deals to shut down dissent is not the best best way to display your FOS credentials.
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Trump even blocked a cat on twitter LOL

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China, Unsure of How to Handle Trump, Braces for ‘New Cold War’



Perhaps nowhere outside America’s heartland is Donald Trump given more credit than in Beijing.

“The trade war has prompted thinking in China on whether a new cold war has begun,” said An Gang, a senior research fellow at the Pangoal Institution, an independent research group in Beijing whose experts include former government officials. The dispute, he says, “now has military and strategic implications” -- reflecting concern among some in Beijing that tensions could spill over into Taiwan, the South China Sea and North Korea.

The general pessimism is a major shift among China’s elite, many of whom had initially welcomed the rise of a U.S. president viewed as a transactional pragmatist who would cut a deal to narrow a $375 billion trade deficit for the right price. Now, with tariffs on $34 billion of goods already in effect and duties on another $216 billion in the pipeline, a majority saw no quick fix to a problem that is starting to rattle the country’s top leaders.

Xi Criticism

The hushed debate centers over the wisdom of Xi’s goals for rapid growth and his decision to announce China’s ambitions to the world. This was a dramatic shift from former leader Deng Xiaoping’s famous dictum, “Hide your strength, bide your time.’’ Critics of Xi say policies like Made in China 2025 (a plan to dominate industries such as aircraft, new energy vehicles and biotechnology) and the Belt and Road Initiative (a mechanism to finance infrastructure investments around the globe) raised alarm in the West, and prompted the U.S. to target China before it could build critical technologies.

This was seen by how swiftly Trump could bring down ZTE Corp., China’s second-largest telecommunications equipment maker. In April, his administration prohibited the company from buying essential components from American suppliers after it violated laws banning the sale of U.S. technology to Iran. The move prompted ZTE to cease major operating activities until Trump came to the rescue and helped engineer a settlement.

Although ZTE is now back up and running, the episode showed China just how dependent the nation is on the U.S. for high-end know-how. It has also highlighted wider efforts to block Chinese firms from acquiring tech companies by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, which reviews deals on national security grounds. All in allit amounts to “high-tech containment” of China, said Shi Yinhong, a foreign affairs adviser to the State Council and director of Renmin University’s Center on American Studies in Beijing.

The U.S., of course, sees things differently. Officials have repeatedly said they don’t want to prevent China from growing, they just want to stop it from breaking the rules and stealing intellectual property -- allegations that officials in Beijing repeatedly deny‘Off-The-Books Nonsense’

The Pentagon recently named China and Russia as two U.S. rivals actively seeking to “co-opt or replace the free and open order that has enabled global security and prosperity since World War II.” Last month, U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo obliquely criticized China for wooing developing countries with cheap financing for infrastructure projects, saying the U.S. believes in “strategic partnerships, not strategic dependency.”

“With American companies, citizens around the world know that what you see is what you get: honest contracts, honest terms and no need for off-the-books nonsense,” Pompeo said in a speech before he attended a regional security forum in Singapore. Another advantage of the U.S., he said, is that “we will help them keep their people free from coercion or great power domination.”

Across the political spectrum in China, from reformers to nationalists, there’s a growing consensus that the nation needs to open up more to foreign business, better protect intellectual property and create a more level playing field. The confrontation with the U.S. was “due in large part to China doing nothing for many years” to reduce the surplus, widen market access and ease state control, according to Shi from Renmin University. “China faces a new, uncertain situation and needs to undergo review and adjustment,” he said. “We didn’t consider other nations’ feelings in our strategic great leap forward.”

Yet sentiments like these are tempered by a reluctance to be seen as bending to Trump’s demands. Several people said that at first they viewed the U.S. tariffs as not all bad if they prompted the government to make long overdue adjustments in China’s approach to doing business with the West. But as the trade war, and the war of words, has escalated, many of these same people are now digging in against the U.S., saying China won’t be bullied.Xi Jinping at the closing of the First Session of the 13th National People’s Congress in March 2018.

Apart from some criticism from academics and grumbling from unnamed officials, so far there’s little visible sign from China’s opaque government that the trade war has impacted Xi’s ability to control the levers of money and power. If Xi and his ministers are themselves suffering any doubts, it’s not reflected in the official press. The People’s Daily newspaper -- the main mouthpiece of the Communist Party -- recently confronted critics who say it was a mistake for China to be so public with its global goals.

“Such a heavyweight cannot be hidden by taking a ‘low key’ approach,” the paper said in a commentary last week, “just like an elephant cannot conceal its body behind a small tree.”

Beijing has signaled a willingness to strike a deal that narrows the trade deficit. But policy advisers see little room to budge on some of Trump’s other demands, including an end to subsidies for strategic industries, a stop to forced technology transfer and more competition for state-owned enterprises. Those stipulations -- shared widely by both Republicans and Democrats alike -- are seen as posing an existential threat to the Communist Party, whose legitimacy to rule hinges on its ability to improve livelihoods.

Trump has tried to portray China as an adversary on the ropes, with a falling stock market, sliding currency and slowing economy. It’s certainly true that the U.S. economy is far stronger than China’s. But in Beijing, there is general confidence that in a test of wills between the two presidents, it’s Xi -- who doesn’t have to worry about elections or the wrath of special interest groups -- who can endure more pain.China has also hinted there are ways to turn up the pressure on Trump, if necessary. Tariffs on automobiles, semiconductors and Boeing airplanes aren’t off the table, according to Wei Jianguo, a former vice commerce minister and now vice director of China Center for International Economic Exchanges, a group with a mission to “improve China’s soft power.” While China is dependent on U.S. chips to make high-performance mobile devices and can’t completely cut ties with Boeing, it served as the second-largest market for American-made cars after Canada.

“If you want to hit Trump hard, give him a right hook so he remembers the pain,” Wei said.

The instinct to fight back comes naturally to China. The “Century of Humiliation’’ that followed the Opium Wars in the mid-1800s -- in which foreign powers forced China to open its markets and provide access to strategic ports -- is etched on the national psyche and used in Communist Party propaganda to spur nationalism.

Most Dangerous Period’

Nearly everyone interviewed in Beijing was looking ahead to the mid-term elections in the U.S. to see where things go next. While Standard Bank predicted on Aug. 15 that Trump would look to cut a deal before then to ride a stock-market surge to victory, the consensus in China saw a higher chance of a deal if the Republicans get walloped, as polls predict. China announced on Thursday that lower-level talks were set to resume later this month.

“We’re talking to China, they very much want to talk,” Trump said Thursday at a cabinet meeting at the White House. “They just are not able to give us an agreement that is acceptable, so we’re not going to do any deal until we get one that’s fair to our country."

Next to nobody is betting on a quick resolution. While Trump could tactically shift course at any time -- similar to what he’s done with Nafta, the European Union and North Korea -- with China he’s persistently ignored opportunities to lower tensions.

“The U.S. and China are now in the most dangerous period in the past 40 years,” said Lu Xiang, an expert in relations between the countries at the government-run Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. “Mr. Trump put a knife on our neck. We will never surrender.”

Most Dangerous Period’

Nearly everyone interviewed in Beijing was looking ahead to the mid-term elections in the U.S. to see where things go next. While Standard Bank predicted on Aug. 15 that Trump would look to cut a deal before then to ride a stock-market surge to victory, the consensus in China saw a higher chance of a deal if the Republicans get walloped, as polls predict. China announced on Thursday that lower-level talks were set to resume later this month.

“We’re talking to China, they very much want to talk,” Trump said Thursday at a cabinet meeting at the White House. “They just are not able to give us an agreement that is acceptable, so we’re not going to do any deal until we get one that’s fair to our country."

Next to nobody is betting on a quick resolution. While Trump could tactically shift course at any time -- similar to what he’s done with Nafta, the European Union and North Korea -- with China he’s persistently ignored opportunities to lower tensions.

“The U.S. and China are now in the most dangerous period in the past 40 years,” said Lu Xiang, an expert in relations between the countries at the government-run Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. “Mr. Trump put a knife on our neck. We will never surrender.”

 

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Trump even blocked a cat on twitter LOL


I knew you were a cat person.

Do you talk to them? ... and get answers?LOL
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Clap... Trump would like to see ANTIFA shut down, along with the other major fascist group over there, the murderous and racist Black Lives Matter.

... and on the other side, CNNPT and his left wing nutter Socialist goons, want to attack and harrass, and shut down a government law enforcement agency, ICE, because they ... enforce the fcuking law!!!Wacko 

Come on CNNPT, at least pretend that you stand for freedom of speech!Wink

Are ANTIFA or any other group not allowed their first amendment rights Doc?

Is private citizen John Brennan allowed his opinion Doc? Listening to demented terrified Trumpers, you would think not. Trump pulling his security clearance for no good reason and threatening a dozen other witnesses, suggests he doesn't like them expressing their views either.

We see Trump's idea of freedom of speech on display all the time, when he tries to get the NYT, MSNBC, CNN and anyone who reports his lies. Trying to interfere in media ownership deals to shut down dissent is not the best best way to display your FOS credentials.

Sorry, do you have a point, other than to confirm that you are a typical left leaning screeching hypocrite?Embarrassed
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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 Cats are great, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. 
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Yes, but cat people are creepy.
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Is Donald creepy. He said he loves grabbing cats. Or at least I think that was what he was saying. 
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Yes ... that has never been in dispute has it?
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It is hard to tell in an administration whose positions on truth include:

Trump: “What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

Kellyanne Conway: The White House gives “alternative facts.”

Rudy Giuliani: “Truth isn’t truth.”


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We do know though that he doesn't like RATS, he said so today. John Dean told the truth and cooperated with law enforcement. It is usually other crims who refer to people who cooperate with law enforcement in that way, isn't it?


 
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Poor comprehension there CNNPT ... clearly states that implication made by NYT... and he has nothing to hide.

Please try to come up with better FAKE NEWS than that - many thanks.
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The NYT didn't refer to Dean as a RAT.
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Trump even blocked a cat on twitter


Is that your "best best" effort. I think Trump is starting the affect your grammar ...... bigly bigly. LOL

We both know the "cat" is a human .... don't we Fibber? Confused
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Trump even blocked a cat on twitter


Is that your "best best" effort. I think Trump is starting the affect your grammar ...... bigly bigly. LOL

We both know the "cat" is a human .... don't we  ? Confused


Wot??? Shocked


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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Trump even blocked a cat on twitter</span>
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<span style=": rgb251, 251, 253;">Is that your "best best" effort. I think Trump is starting the affect your grammar ...... bigly bigly. LOL</span>
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We both know the "cat" is a human .... don't we  ? Confused



Wot??? Shocked




PT in a straight jacket when Trump wins his second term and invites Australian PM , Tony Abbott to the White House.
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What odds that double maxie?
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Democrats have no candidate to compete against him so they should be planning for 2024.
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Ok, now accepting suggestions for Melania's 2024 Campaign Slogan!Big smile

How about this, a 3 word slogan always plays well ...

"Making America Trumpier!!!"


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Who will Melania be married to in 2024? 
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Who will Melania be married to in 2024? 


Me I hope .
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She will be cashed up after the divorce maxie. Could be a long queue. 
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The Paul Manafort jury has informed the judge they want to deliberate an extra hour today, the assumption being they dont want to come back for a 4th day. A result is close.
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False alarm, the jury just wanted to stay an extra hour. Having too much fun, no doubt.
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