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Passing Through
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stayer's article covered stats from an article 6 months old referring to the previous year in one state or 10% of Germany. The one I posted was official govt stats for the whole country, comparing this year to that year his post quoted.
Yes, I am as shocked as you tlaz that stayer would cherry pick stats to make immigrants look bad.
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Passing Through
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You prove my point. Despite living in the Islamic Caliphate of Bankstown, the second worse place on Earth, where your schools are infested with terrorists and teachers teach terrorism, you refuse to seek asylum in North Sydney or the Eastern Suburbs.
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Tlazolteotl
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It beats me these Muslims who move from the sh8thouse to the penthouse then do their utmost to turn the penthouse into a sh8thouse.
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Do state govts bear responsibility with the way they distribute(or concentrate) immigrants and not put in place the infrastructure they need? Does the Federal govt bear responsibility for maintaining an immigration level to maintain a steady level of economic growth without providing funding to State govts to update infrastructure and assistance to the states to fit then in?
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maccamax
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I like it ... So well put |
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Michael Cohen has a new lawyer, having sacked the 15 who were costing him $500k a week. He is a former prosecutor with the SDNY, the people handling the Cohen case. Can only mean flip on Trump time.
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Tlazolteotl
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Why would anyone in their right mind want anything to do with sharia law, when it is and always has been a certain path to oppression, especially for women.
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Tlazolteotl
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But I digress. back to Trumpland which is almost as crazy as sharia but at least it only lasts for 4 years.
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Good for you. Where would you like your bottle of Figjam sent to as first prize? And no I think Whale was male sorry, winner. |
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Tlazolteotl
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Navarro is an interesting character. He must be the lowest cred economist in the Western world re his writings on trade. He was also anti-developer and big on man-made global warming theory and carbon taxes in a former life. If Trump ever does a porno he will have to get David Lynch to direct- he has some weird bedfellows.
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Trump WH leaks the news of hundreds of seized babies being imprisoned and that they need more facilities with hundreds or thousands more expected, on the same day the news broke about Cohen going to flip on Trump and employing a negotiating prosecutor. Coincidence, or killing the news cycle?
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Tlazolteotl
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Nobody flips on the Donald.
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He may as well. He had all his premises and office raided with 16 phones seized along with all his hard drives, those of his wife and kids, 5,000,000 documents, thousands of conversations he routinely recorded, even the contents of his shredder put back together. Everything connected to his 12 years working for/with Trump. If there is anything there Trump is gone anyway, so why not flip and get a couple of decades off your own sentence?
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Redemption
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Angela Merkel is about to be kicked out of office/resign
Thank you Emperor Trump and King Orban |
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Gawd that's dumb. A bit of this going on no doubt: http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/11/the-fiddling-of-crime-figures-vindication-of-my-warnings.html |
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Really? I am old enough to remember people demanding complete Supreme Court judgments before accepting stuff. Now it's cherry picked stats from any old rag will do when it suits.
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If you won't read that one, try this:
https://www.thelocal.de/20180509/what-we-learned-from-this-years-crime-statistics-and-what-we-didnt |
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stayer did the same fiddling apply to exaggerate African and Pacific Island crime stats under the previous govt in Victoria?
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Probably. It's called cooking the books to suit a political agenda. Duh. There are whole big books written about it. They did it especially well in communist countries. |
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Another from that same german site, which directly addresses trump's hyperbole:
https://www.thelocal.de/20180618/why-trump-is-wrong-again-on-migrants-and-crime-in-germany |
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You mean like Stalin getting statisticians to falsify figures and then executing them? Never heard of it.
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Yes and yes. All the more reason why NGOs should step up and help immgirants to integrate, rather than allowing ghettos to form, which is what causes the problems. |
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That's an extreme example, but it'll do. On a less extreme level, Germany makes a huge mistake in opening its borders, which causes the usual xenophobia and insecurity you'd expect, but that's fine. But then young male north africans who aren't guaranteed a permanent place act up, which leads to the rise of far right movements. Germany wants to play down the crime/immigration link, so police change their reporting methods while simultaneously ramping up their policing. Easy result - "lowest crime rate in 30 years." But any way it's causing huge division in Germany, whatever the stats say or how much credence you give them. So trump had a point, expressed in his usual hyperbolic tweeting language that is designed to get a reaction. |
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I think most of that anti African stuff has been exposed as coming from Russian bot farms.
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Ok. |
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http://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/10/17/russian-propaganda-germany-effective-think/
Mr Mueller indicted 13 Russian individuals, 3 companies and a bot farm in Moscow for doing the same thing in the us |
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