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Tlazolteotl
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How did a Hungarian racist conspiracy wacko find her way on to this forum? Is she lost? Can someone please give her a link to a racist wacko conspiracy wingnut site somewhere.
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Passing Through
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Dont worry tlaz, the 13th Illuminati Bloodline and the Black Nobility are joining forces with this unholy marriage....no biggy, just the end of the world.
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maccamax
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Did you get an invite to the wedding PT. The Bride is an anti Trump campaigner too. I think she said if Donald won the election she would leave the cup cakery. Harry is only her "Ticket from Hell ". |
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No invite yet maxie. With the big event only a week away, I am starting to worry it may be lost in the mail.
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Isaac soloman
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Trump, Iran and the end of the dealDominic GreenFor someone so frequently denounced as a liar, Donald Trump keeps an awful lot of promises. In the 2016 election campaign, he promised that he would take the United States out of the ‘terrible’ Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the ‘Iran deal’. Last October, he insisted that the Iran deal be renegotiated. In January, he warned that he was recertifying the deal in its original form for the last time, and again called for its renegotiation. On Tuesday, he kept his word. The despair with which this decision was met — especially by Britain, who sent Boris Johnson to plead on Fox News for the President to change his mind — seems to overlook an important point. The deal isn’t working. Not because Obama’s deal was ‘terrible’ to start with, though it did have gaps wide enough for an intercontinental ballistic missile, but because it simply hasn’t worked as intended. The deal has turned out to be strategically counterproductive not just to American interests, but those of America’s regional and European allies. And, Trump now adds, to the interests of the Iranian people themselves.The idea was that Iran would desist from its nuclear activities and be a better global citizen. In return, embargoes would be lifted and trade would surge. The latter half of this has come to pass, with Iran’s oil exports doubling. But much of the wealth has been used to finance Iranian military adventures — which is one of the reasons why Trump called the deal a ‘great embarrassment’ and ‘defective at its core’. At the ‘point of maximum leverage’ in the Vienna negotiations of 2014, the Obama administration and its European allies demanded the minimum of Iranian compliance. Clearly, the former secretary of state John Kerry had not read The Art of the Deal. The deal did stop most of Iran’s high-grade uranium production, and extended the ‘breakout times’ required to raise it to weapons grade and get it onto a missile. No restrictions were placed on Iran’s development of ballistic missiles. The inspectors were not granted access to military sites. No limits were placed on Iran’s subversion of states across the region — a loophole it has gleefully exploited. Then there’s the ten-year ‘sunset clauses’ on Iran’s production of weapons-grade uranium — an acknowledgement that Iran is pausing its weapons programme, rather than dismantling it as South Africa did in 1989. So this deal left Iran on what Benjamin Netanyahu has called a ‘glide path’ to a nuclear weapon. Even Obama admitted that when the deal ran out, ‘at that point, the breakout times would have shrunk almost to zero’.But if the deal had been better for American interests, the Iranians wouldn’t have agreed to it. And did the Americans really have maximum leverage in Vienna? The Obama administration was desperate to extricate America from the Middle East. The deal was about getting out of the region at all costs, and bringing the Iranians into the region at the lowest price possible. The cost to the Americans was the suspension of sanctions, and a payment of $1.7 billion. Perhaps this would have looked less like a bribe if the Americans hadn’t delivered it in cash, and as quietly as possible. The price for Iran was the reduction and suspension of elements of its nuclear programme, and assent to a partial inspections regime.The Obama administration spun the deal faster than a centrifuge. Their pitch was that lifting sanctions would boost Iran’s economy, and that the nuclear deal would create a ten- to 15-year window for integrating Iran into the international order. None of this has happened since 2015. Iran’s economy and currency remain weak. Rouhani, the supposed ‘moderate’, shows no signs of moderation. Nor do the Republican Guards who, owning about half of Iran’s businesses, are the biggest beneficiaries of the lifting of sanctions. And no one knows how much of that $1.7 billion in cash has gone to Iran’s ‘proxies’ across the region. What’s more certain is that, while the Iranian state has benefited from the deal, the Iranian people have not: by some estimates, household incomes are 15 per cent lower than a decade ago, rising only marginally after the deal. That in part explains why Iranians continue to take to the streets to protest against the regime. Trump has now bet the diplomatic house that he will be able to stoke that popular resentment to build a better deal or perhaps overthrow the ayatollahs in Tehran — and that this will strengthen, rather than destroy, the moderates in the regime. It’s one hell of a gamble.When the deal was struck three years ago, the Americans and Europeans thought they were buying a nuclear deal—overpriced, perhaps, but still worth having. It increasingly became clear that western powers have been ‘upsold’, and forced to accept a much more expensive item that they do not want: an Iranian hegemony in the Middle East. Iran, rather than being integrated into the family of nations, is forcibly integrating the Arabs into a Persian empire. This emergent reality renders the deal almost superfluous. With seven years left, Iran has driven the Middle East to the edge of a multi–fronted war. And the deal has become Iran’s economic and diplomatic shield against the consequences of its aggression. That aggression has exacerbated the Syrian civil war, and started a proxy war with Saudi Arabia in Yemen. It is on the verge of sparking a two-front war with Israel in Lebanon and Syria. Since 2011, Israel has limited its involvement in the Syrian civil war to enforcing strategic ‘red lines’ by air strikes. As Iran deepens its presence in Syria and intensifies its missile shipments to Hezbollah, the pace and force of Israeli strikes has accelerated. The Israelis are on high alert, expecting retaliatory border infiltrations and missile barrages by Iranian proxies. A couple of weeks ago, defence minister Avigdor Leiberman said that if Iran bombed Tel Aviv, Israel would bomb Tehran. On Monday, Israel’s energy minister Yuval Steinitz suggested that if the missiles were launched in Syria, then Bashar Assad’s ‘blood will be forfeit’.By leaving the Iran deal, Trump restores some wild-card leverage to the United States as it tries to regain its regional footing. And by stripping Iran of the deal’s protection, he exposes Iran to a US-Russian carve-up of Syria, either before or after the Israelis have levelled Iran’s Syrian bases. On Wednesday, Netanyahu went to Moscow. Is there a deal on the cards, which stabilises Syria and separates Iran and Israel? Putin wants Assad to stay in power in Syria. Israel prefers Assad to the Islamist alternative, and Russian influence in Syria to the Al-Quds Force at the foot of the Golan Heights. Trump could probably work with all of this. Everyone has made a desert of Syria. Everyone could now call it peace. Everyone, that is, except the Iranians. On Tuesday, Trump invited them to renegotiate. The sanctions won’t take effect for 90 to 180 days, so there is still time. Given the surreal developments on the North Korean front, anything is possible. It is more likely, however, that the Iranians, aware that the American and European public want nothing more to do with the Middle East, will test whether America and its allies really are, as Trump said, ‘unified in our understanding’. Are the Europeans genuinely committed to a ‘real, comprehensive and lasting solution to the Iranian nuclear threat’, with all the risks that entails, including getting dragged into a regional war by an American president who has yet to articulate a replacement Iran strategy?As before, Iran will aim to split the United States from its European allies, and call the West’s military bluff by proxy attacks on its allies. The British, French and Germans all tried to convince Trump to save the deal. All failed. The French and the Iranians have floated the possibility of continuing with the deal, as if nothing has changed. But if American sanctions are restored, that will be impossible for any European company with an American account. Which way will the Europeans, having so vigorously defended the deal against Trump’s impulses in recent weeks, jump now? |
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Redemption
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LOL.
Its hilarious people defend England Its a scum country Its a fishing village. Its all its ever been What has England ever done for the world, apart from steal everything, including languages.
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Softy
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Well I’m glad they sent their convicts to Tassie and not Hungary.
Does that count? |
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acacia alba
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How did they steal languages ???
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animals before people.
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maccamax
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I'm Horrified Redemption . MOTHER ENGLAND , how dare you.
Ever think how we would be without them. The place would be full of Stan Grants , wasting the day , trying to throw a bent stick away. 4X , and Tooheys = out of business. NO one for us to call a Pommy B . Pray for forgiveness .. |
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Redemption
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Acacia, the entire English language is borrowed from other languages, Latin, etc etc That is why there are double meanings, for same words, different spellings, for same meanings, etc That is why children grow up very confused about english, because its a borrowed language borrowed is the wrong word, its stolen. just what the poms do best. steal. they are very unoriginal people. I have far far more respect for aboriginals. not to mention the fact they invented the first flying wing. its called a boomerang. poms will claim that too. lol england is a fishing village. end of story.
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Redemption
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English, the stolen language
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Passing Through
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Tomorrow is mandatory financial disclosure day deadline for Donald Trump. All Presidents Vice Presidents WH Counsel and others must file by that date.
Of great interest will be the handling of the $130k paid to Stormy Daniels, the $150k paid to Karen McDougall and any other transactions that could be detailed in the evidence boxes grabbed by the SDNY a few weeks ago. Hope he has a ''good'' accountant in the White House. If it is an honest one, he could have some explaining to do.
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Passing Through
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So, the leaks are a lie spread by #fakenews, but Donald will hunt down the traitorous cowardly leakers who aren't actually leaking. Did I mention that was #fakenews? Doesn't matter whether it makes sense, as it is only intended to be read by snowflake Trumpkins.
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Oh, this has piqued my interest.
Mr Avenatti says we will find out very soon. |
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Shammy Davis
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Hey CNNPT, looks like Ferris Mueller might have a conflict of interest himself involving a Russian oligarch.
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/387625-mueller-may-have-a-conflict-and-it-leads-directly-to-a-russian-oligarch?amp Looks like Meghan Markle is going to be stood up by her old man on her wedding day. It would be ashame if you did not get a ticket to attend this fiasco. You said you love the tabloids. |
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Passing Through
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Is that like getting Muhammad Ali to help free hostages from Iran or Dennis Rodman to negotiate with Kimmy, or are you saying Mr Mueller was engaging in under aged prostitution and money laundering like Derapaska was with Donny? Does this make Donald innocent, or is he still a crook? You can pick your friends but you can't pick your relatives. He might be invited back yet. Did the right thing offering to withdraw. Maybe Donald should take a leaf out of his book. |
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Passing Through
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BTW Shammy, I told you about the FBI involvement in cultivating Deripaska through Manafort, last year. As I said then Manafort could have been arrested and in prison 4 years ago, but FBI, CIA ops were still ongoing and he was allowed to stay free, but under surveillance. Remember I told you his phones were bugged, and that he was still using the same ones for 10 years making it easier to surveil him.
Glad the right wing media are catching up though.
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Dr E
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That's not actually true macca - without his WHITE ANCESTORS, who he ignores when he is not vilifying them, there would be NO STAN GRANT!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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ThreeBears
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Hungarians are nothing but Mongols and Turkic Huns - nothing special just a bunch of mongrels like everyone else on the planet.
As for the unique non stolen words language - "Hungarian acquired many words with Iranian, Turkic, and Caucasian origin offering a linguistic breadcrumb trail towards its roots in the Urals. Later it also became influenced by its European neighbours, with words being picked up from languages from the Slavic, Latin, and Germanic families, and even its Turkish influences could be traced to the Ottoman occupation of the country which lasted for almost 200 years."
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Shammy Davis
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Is Deripaska a target or a cooperating witness. It is hard to tell what that article implies. Has the back and forth regarding Treasury and Rusal(Deripaska's Aluminium company) got anything to do with his cooperation? A 5 month stay of sanctions to allow time for him to divest(dispute is going on right now ) and sell to Vekselberg(who paid Cohen $500k) and has already been interviewed by Mr Mueller. Is Mr Solomon, a well known Hannity and Nunes lacky, who has recently been downgraded from analyst to opinion writer following many complaints from Hill staff that he was off the rails printing conspiracy stuff, trying to discredit Mr Mueller or trying to discredit Deripaska as a witness?
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Hey Doc, you suggested I read Art of the
Over to you Donald. Kim has what he wanted, he is a recognized player on the world stage....thanks Dotart Donald.
North Korea threatens to cancel Donald Trump-Kim Jong Un meetingDavid Jackson, USA TODAYPublished 3:03 p.m. ET May 15, 2018 | Updated 5:24 p.m. ET May 15, 2018 |
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Big setback for Mr Manafort in court today Shammy, Judge Berman ruling that the superseding indictment submitted by Mr Mueller falls squarely in the SC Authority investigating Trump/Russia.
This will make it very difficult for Judge Ellis, Trump's new favorite judge that he has never heard of, from ruling differently in the other case in EDVA.
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Redemption
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LOL, clearly you dont know your GEOGRAPHY Hungary was once almost ALL of Europe in land mass. Mind boggling how uneducated people are. Then again, my Hungarian family and friends often comment that you could enter an Australian library, read every book, and walk out dumber than you entered. For its a bunch of misinformation, and the above uneducated post from Three Bears proves it.
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Regarding the Commoners wedding this week.
In typical English arrogant snobbery, they are bullying Meghans father. Why not post-pone the wedding????? If it is indeed true that he has health, or even mental issues, in a world full of resources that can assist him,,,,, why not delay the wedding, so he can attend?? Nahhhh, just bully the broken down dude. Its the English standard and they are showing that in flying colours this week. Cold cold race of people. They are absolutely disgusting people.
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Redemption
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Hungary is 1100 years old moron
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ThreeBears
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You stick to your pathetic self delusion. You fool nobody. Repeating ad nauseum what your racist parents indoctrinated you with from birth does not make you intelligent. I didn't get any of my info from an Australian library. It all came from Hungarian sources albeit not grossly biased and deluded ones.
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#BeBest
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It will be interesting to see how the Bolton V Pompeo power-play ends.
Bolton is up 1-0 after today. Did Kimmy's 2nd trip to Beijing in a month last week have anything to do with the North's announcement today?
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Dr E
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Let's hope that Kimmy is going to push back to some degree ... pretty embarrassing for O'bummer if The Donald were to achieve World Peace within 18 months of his election!
... what would he do for the next 6 and a half years? ... play golf? ... work on his Nobel Literature and Science prizes?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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