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I'm trying to work out how someone living in Byron bloody Bay can be an expert on American politics. Oh wait - maybe you cant !
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That article confuses me. Whats it trying to say Confused
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I'm trying to work out how someone living in Byron bloody Bay can be an expert on American politics. Oh wait - maybe you cant !


let me help you ,because he is intelligent, thorough, has a long standing interest in American politics and is not a dope like sucker Trump voters Wink
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I have no idea what that article is about. It is very hard going trying to read it. 
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I'm trying to work out how someone living in Byron bloody Bay Banks bloody town can be an expert on American politics. fake Christians and contract law Oh wait - maybe you cant !


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an article about female instagram influencers and the fact that it is not the utopia some believe it to be, people have problems just like everywhere.

Exactly what point is this supposed dig trying to make oneone Confused
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The point is you don’t see them cuz it appears the yanks don’t care about it as much as some Australians do or some media corporations trying desperately to be rating relevant


tell me Shrunky, when you are walking down the street in Melbourne or wherever you come from do you hear people discussing what they think of Morrison or Albanese ?

or maybe you interview them on the street LOL

is beyond me how you can get an idea of peoples political leanings from walking around the streets, by the way NY is probably the most anti Trump city in America, pretty far removed from the rust belt



Sorry whale. I know you don’t understand as you talk at people rather than to them.

Not sure what travel you’ve done in your life, it sounds like very little. Certainly not in the USA

I like to mix with people. I talk to locals in their environments. There’s buses, taxis, bars, queues at the theatre, the concierge in the hotel lobby. Other guests, cafes, waitresses

You may not like my observations but whilst your sitting on your butt being obtuse I’ll continue my thoroughly enjoyable trip
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When freaky people I dont know come up to me in the street and ask me about politics and religion and climate change or the moon landing I am always happy to tell them as well as  my whole  life story.... 

If people dont tell the truth to anonymous pollsters, why would they tell you?

Lucky you dont get punched Shrunky.LOL
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No mention of me conducting myself, pollster style, PT.

There’s Plenty of ways to engage people in conversation which are different to the in your face style you suggested above. I’m sure the subtleties are not really lost on you as they are on whale

One thing I’ve know over my years of travel is that genuine aussies draw people in. People are always happy to chat to a tourist.
They’re curiosity is quite amazing
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

When freaky people I dont know come up to me in the street and ask me about politics and religion and climate change or the moon landing I am always happy to tell them as well as  my whole  life story.... 

If people dont tell the truth to anonymous pollsters, why would they tell you?

Lucky you dont get punched Shrunky.LOL
Why would they have to walk up to you on a street & ask you questions - just refer them here to TBV & tell them to read up. Life according to PT. Hopefully they've got a few spare months up their sleeve. 
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I have 3 sisters who I speak with variously from once a month to daily(in one case), have done for up to 60 years. I wouldn't have a clue how 2 of them vote, any of their real views on religion or afterlife. I had no idea my parents actual religious views, even approaching their deaths where they still didn't open up despite the practical aspects of needing an idea. Probably why we have all stayed close.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

When freaky people I dont know come up to me in the street and ask me about politics and religion and climate change or the moon landing I am always happy to tell them as well as  my whole  life story.... 

If people dont tell the truth to anonymous pollsters, why would they tell you?

Lucky you dont get punched Shrunky.LOL
Why would they have to walk up to you on a street & ask you questions - just refer them here to TBV & tell them to read up. Life according to PT. Hopefully they've got a few spare months up their sleeve. 

That is the beauty of anonymous forums oneone, you can say what you wouldn't ordinarily open up about, or just say what you like.

I hope you dont say the rub stuff you post on here in the real world. Embarrassed
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Hey Shammy why is Fox Propaganda Network the only one not covering the Mueller testimony this week in what could be the highest viewed event in history?

Trump afraid that Trumpers will hear the truth and Fox is complying? It's not as if they haven't been a teensy bit interested in the Mueller Trump/Russian issue.
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Well i'm not sure that's normal PT. On the political front i'd suggest your bent is well known - which may explain why they don't discuss it with you. I'd also suggest your dismissal of anything religious would also be obvious over that length of time. Do you not think your socialist/ anti-religion beliefs would not be apparent in regular conversations ? I cant say i ever discussed religion with my parents - however i knew my mother had faith & my Dad didn't. Same as my sister doesn't. Same for politics - i knew /know their political leanings. I find what you say quite odd.
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Spent a wonderful night in a jazz bar in Manhattan the other night. The singer heard me order a drink and started engaging me from the stage as she’d just toured Australia. Ended up playing 6 or so requests from me. The Crowd loved it and her stories of “downunder”

So much so a young 20 something lass pulled up a stool next to me and we talked all things from fashion to music to politics & Broadway stage shows as we drank our way through the night. I didn’t have to ask a “difficult “ question. Apparently the media over here tells her we’re all very racist down there.
I set her straight, naturally

Ditto on a bus tour. sat next to a lovely Irish lass for a couple of hours. The only seat next to her. I asked if I could use it. “ seeing as your Australian, certainly she said. She spilled her life story to me from her shoe fetish, her partner, British open golf, music LGBT stuff and politics

Now, I’m in my 50’s and the days of stunningly good looking girls approaching me and talking are well gone.....unless I’m on tour somewhere. No need to interrogate or intrude. Just be nice and you’ll be amazed where conversations can go and what you can glean

I could give you more examples but we’re off to a street festival in the village we’re staying at in Toronto. I’ll have a Molsons for you
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When religion plays zero part in your day to day life, why discuss it? My sisters obviously have the same view. Politics is always divisive and we choose to not discuss it.
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We also dont talk about UFOs, fake moon landings or 9/11 conspiracies. Is that weird as well?
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Spent a wonderful night in a jazz bar in Manhattan the other night. The singer heard me order a drink and started engaging me from the stage as she’d just toured Australia. Ended up playing 6 or so requests from me. The Crowd loved it and her stories of “downunder”

So much so a young 20 something lass pulled up a stool next to me and we talked all things from fashion to music to politics & Broadway stage shows as we drank our way through the night. I didn’t have to ask a “difficult “ question. Apparently the media over here tells her we’re all very racist down there.
I set her straight, naturally

Ditto on a bus tour. sat next to a lovely Irish lass for a couple of hours. The only seat next to her. I asked if I could use it. “ seeing as your Australian, certainly she said. She spilled her life story to me from her shoe fetish, her partner, British open golf, music LGBT stuff and politics

Now, I’m in my 50’s and the days of stunningly good looking girls approaching me and talking are well gone.....unless I’m on tour somewhere. No need to interrogate or intrude. Just be nice and you’ll be amazed where conversations can go and what you can glean

I could give you more examples but we’re off to a street festival in the village we’re staying at in Toronto. I’ll have a Molsons for you





That’s all very nice Shrunk but more importantly did you stop off at the wineries on the way to Toronto and have you been to the Danforth for a Greek feast yet?
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Sorry whale. I know you don’t understand as you talk at people rather than to them.

Not sure what travel you’ve done in your life, it sounds like very little. Certainly not in the USA

I like to mix with people. I talk to locals in their environments. There’s buses, taxis, bars, queues at the theatre, the concierge in the hotel lobby. Other guests, cafes, waitresses

You may not like my observations but whilst your sitting on your butt being obtuse I’ll continue my thoroughly enjoyable trip [/QUOTE]

some travel and the last thing I would talk to locals about is politics, find it really weird that you do
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WOW. Trump TELLING Twitter what to do,,,,,

"I will help Angel Mom (and great woman) Mary Ann Mendoza with Twitter.
I know Mary Ann from the beginning and she should never be silenced. She is a winner who has lost so much, her child.  Twitter if you are watching, please do what you have to do, NOW".

Kick Ar## Emperor Trump.  Clap
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Hey Shammy why is Fox Propaganda Network the only one not covering the Mueller testimony this week in what could be the highest viewed event in history?

Trump afraid that Trumpers will hear the truth and Fox is complying? It's not as if they haven't been a teensy bit interested in the Mueller Trump/Russian issue.

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Maybe your sisters don't have any truly cognitive conversations with you because you can't get your facts straight and you make no apologies when you act stupid. Fox has been broadcasting its future full coverage of the hearing for the past week.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-obama-us-attorney-apologizes-for-false-claim-that-fox-news-wont-screen-mueller-testimony
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Now that I have your attention Shammy, you have no excuse for not watching it. Thumbs Up

What questions would you like to hear asked of Mr Mueller? 

Do you think Republicans will behave themselves or just try to blow it up to try to protect the corrupt colluding obstructer? Will they be at all Russia curious or will it be about Steele, Strzok, Page and FISA?
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Now that I have your attention Shammy, you have no excuse for not watching it. Thumbs Up

What questions would you like to hear asked of Mr Mueller? 

Do you think Republicans will behave themselves or just try to blow it up to try to protect the corrupt colluding obstructer? Will they be at all Russia curious or will it be about Steele, Strzok, Page and FISA?


Hay,PT. I will not be able to watch, but I will look forward to your biased comments subsequent to your hero Mueller's lynching at the hands of the minority party and the truth. This will be embarrassing for your Dems and the mainstream media.

Hay and fencing are going to demand my full attention thru August, so I will expect you being unfair, unbalanced, and afraid until the fall. Woops, your Spring.
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you won't miss anything shammy no matter what is revealed. The Dems won't call for impeachment because they are too scared it will harm their election chances and the republicans don't have the balls to stop the chaos and racism
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Hay Shammy, Donald isn't watching it either, so he says. LOL
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Impeachment isn't the be all and end all. Republicans will not convict in the Senate without their own arses being on the line, and if they still think Trump/Barr can lie their way through, they will stick.

Sentiment now with the public is similar to what it was with Nixon. It wasn't till after public hearings that sentiment changed and Republicans went to Nixon and told him it was over for him.

Trump/Barr know this which is why they are doing everything they can to block public hearings by anyone at all. This is being challenged in court with a criminal contempt charge to be brought against Barr.

Nancy has two options and isn't being forced into one or the other. Mr Mueller is up on Wednesday and most Americans will hear the charges against Trump for the first time. Court success to stop more obstruction will bring more public testimony from the key players in the Report, McGahan, Hicks(who has lied to Congress) plus a whole zoo of traitors.Could be a very different picture in a few months.

Remember Republicans credit their strategy of relentless and prolonged hearings against Hillary Clinton for creating the environment where Comey's very late intervention broke through for them. Years of ongoing hearings and some 68 votes in the House. Dems are a long way short of that with 18 months still to run.
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Mr Barr thinks that Donald has been EXONERATED enough and any more EXONERATIN' would be just embarrassing to Donald.Shocked

LEGAL

DOJ tells Mueller to limit testimony to his report

The Justice Department argues that anything outside the report is covered by 'presidential privilege' that hasn’t been waived.

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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Spent a wonderful night in a jazz bar in Manhattan the other night. The singer heard me order a drink and started engaging me from the stage as she’d just toured Australia. Ended up playing 6 or so requests from me. The Crowd loved it and her stories of “downunder”

So much so a young 20 something lass pulled up a stool next to me and we talked all things from fashion to music to politics & Broadway stage shows as we drank our way through the night. I didn’t have to ask a “difficult “ question. Apparently the media over here tells her we’re all very racist down there.
I set her straight, naturally

Ditto on a bus tour. sat next to a lovely Irish lass for a couple of hours. The only seat next to her. I asked if I could use it. “ seeing as your Australian, certainly she said. She spilled her life story to me from her shoe fetish, her partner, British open golf, music LGBT stuff and politics

Now, I’m in my 50’s and the days of stunningly good looking girls approaching me and talking are well gone.....unless I’m on tour somewhere. No need to interrogate or intrude. Just be nice and you’ll be amazed where conversations can go and what you can glean

I could give you more examples but we’re off to a street festival in the village we’re staying at in Toronto. I’ll have a Molsons for you



That’s all very nice Shrunk but more importantly did you stop off at the wineries on the way to Toronto and have you been to the Danforth for a Greek feast yet?



Not wanting to derail PTs trumpy thread but yes, called into 2 wineries in a town called Ithaca. Very nice. Backed up the next day to a brewery and had close to the best pizza ever.

I’ll try and locate the Greek but had a ripper of a fillet Mignon at Niagara Falls. How good is the boat that takes you under the falls


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