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Redemption
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PT, I couldnt find your answer to my question?
Im wondering what it is exactly you dont like about Trump? Can you elaborate?
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Passing Through
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The same as the previous 3 or 4 times you asked and I answered the same question. Nothing has changed, He is a career criminal who is in the position only to self enrich. He is a dangerous unstable lying propagandist, a racist, a homophobe, a dis-empathetic sociopath, is heavily compromised by people blackmailing him, from pornstars to foreign dictators, is a misogynistic sexual predator and he is going to spend his whole Presidency under criminal investigation, the thing he warned was the reason not to elect Hillary. He is not the slightest bit interested in running the economy, nor does he know how it works, he has done his best to destroy America's standing in the world and it's place in the world order. Dont think I missed much.
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Dr E
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We know all of that CNNPT, but what is it about him that would make you hate him more than any other US politician from either side of the swamp ... to the extent that you would lie about him, and destroy your own credibility?
Is it simply that you are just like everyone else on the left ... a sooky, sooky, La La?
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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So you wouldn't have any problem with Hillary?
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Shammy Davis
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Simply put, CNNPT is filled with petty unresolved animosity which has reached a sociopathic, self-absorbed, and delusional level. He has taken on the omnipresent and omnipotent role of judge and jury as to whether the American voters have the common sense to choose their President. JMHO, but he is not doing to well at it either. |
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Passing Through
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Just my humble opinion Shammy. I am allowed one aren't I?
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Dr E
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Of course, she and her husband are ALL of what you claim is wrong with Trump, other than she is a protected species. However, I certainly wouldn't have had a 500 page (so far) psychotic rant and dummy spit about it if she had been elected. ... and thanks for just ignoring the question and deflecting, rather than lying. But let's try again shall we ...
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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Now, see if you can answer the questions - no deceit, deflection or lying ...
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Passing Through
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What is the question?
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Shammy Davis
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Isaac soloman
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that is academic, she is not the president.
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Passing Through
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A little honesty? I gave my honest opinion, and while I missed a lot I stand by it. Trump is the most inappropriate person ever to hold the office and every day he strives to defile it and destroy the institutions that hold the country together, all to obstruct a criminal investigation into him. What happened today for example sending his lawyer and his lackeys to undermine the investigation.
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Passing Through
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You would think so listening to Trump and his supporters. He tweets about her every day and Fox has a Hillary segment every day to distract the poor Trumpers from the truth about their feckless supreme leader.
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Shammy Davis
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Oh please. Being represented by an attorney is Trump's right, as it is for every yank. Avenatti is not a lackey in your self righteous opinion, I suppose? Your piety is enough to make me want puke. |
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maccamax
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WOW , what a relief . I thought for a minute you were describing me PT. I've put you back on my favourites list . |
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Passing Through
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Avenatti represents a client in a civil case against Trump and Cohen. That is all. He is sure punching way above his weight though. As for piety, tell me about Benghazi, Pizzagate, Uranium One Hillary's emails, Whitewater, and relentless pursuit of the Clintons to hold them accountable.
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rusty nails
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What? No one objects to him having as many lawyers as he wants. The objection,is that he's using his power to disrupt an investigation into him! How do you not see that's the issue? In what other situation is a defence lawyer, allowed to peruse the evidence that the authorities have collated,so their client can decide whether he needs to shut down the investigation? |
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No maxie not you old mate, but it does look a like my old Tones list
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Shammy Davis
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Between you and CNNPT, the ignorance level about how our government works is nearing 100%. For all your ranting, not one criminal indictment has been brought against Trump or his family. Mueller should be a farmer, not a lawyer, because all he has harvested so far is low hanging fruit. Even those don't have any connection to Russian collusion. CNNPT'S pettiness is infectious apparently. |
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Dr E
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The left are in the middle of the longest tantrum in the history of the world!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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rusty nails
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Why the tone? I'm being civil,what can't you? There's a lot to unpack from your reply. Firstly congressional oversight does not include a defence attorney being involved in the process of overseeing the investigation, surely you must acknowledge this is both unprecedented and totally out of order? Judicial discovery is the stage after someone is charged, has he been charged yet? 5th amendment rights also are relevant only after being charged? You don't expect any charges to be brought or recommended against either him or his family,until the investigation has been completed surely? As an aside, aren't you at least a little concerned about so much low hanging fruit being have been closely associated with him? |
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Shammy Davis
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Just so you know, WH lawyer Flood and CofS Kelly, nor any other Trump attorneys, did not participate in yesterday's classified congressional hearings. They only relayed WH messages to attendees and exited. Like CNNPT you are very good at pouncing before the facts get out. Fake news is CNNPT'S best source to support his petty animosity. If the law is broken then, of course, prosecution is needed, not a universal lynching like what CNNPT has carried on for almost 500 pages. |
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Shammy, how many meetings were there yesterday? Why were there two? So Nunes, Gowdy, Kelly and Flood could shake down the agencies ordered by Trump to disclose the source(Rudy said a Mueller interview couldn't go ahead without them knowing about the spying and who paid what to whom)
The WH said that the gang of 8 wasn't happening because Democrats weren't invited because they didn't ask. The Democrats stood their ground and demanded the meeting be a proper bi-partisan briefing. Kelly and Flood didn't end up participating in either meeting only after Schiff called them out on the appropriateness of them being there, on their way into the meeting. I guess it's like Don Jrs argument that he didn't collude with Russians in Trump Tower because he claims they didn't deliver what he wanted. |
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Shammy Davis
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So there was only one meeting?
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rusty nails
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[/QUOTE] Much of what you say is inaccurate. Check your facts. Congressional oversight does not prohibit the attendance of defense attorneys with appropriate security clearance. Being charged or indicted is not the only threshold for 5th ammendment rights or discovery. Lastly, POTUS has not obstructed Mueller. Just so you know, WH lawyer Flood and CofS Kelly, nor any other Trump attorneys, did not participate in yesterday's classified congressional hearings. They only relayed WH messages to attendees and exited. Like CNNPT you are very good at pouncing before the facts get out. Fake news is CNNPT'S best source to support his petty animosity. If the law is broken then, of course, prosecution is needed, not a universal lynching like what CNNPT has carried on for almost 500 pages. [/QUOTE] Firstly, you say it's not illegal,but tell me you really think it's appropriate for a defence lawyer to attend a congressional oversight meeting? Has there ever been a precedent? Secondly,you are being dishonest if you don't accept that it was intended that Flood would attend, but only stepped back when the Democrats spat the dummy. This screeching of fake news is quite frankly dishonest. The administration consistently floats ideas in the press, to determine how vitriolic the opposition will be. If it's not fierce,they proceed,if everyone blows up, they don't proceed and cry fake news. You are absolutely wrong about the 5th,and discovery rights before charges have been laid. Otherwise the Mafia, as one good example would have had attorneys installed in every police station of your land for the past 50 years to monitor what the police knew about their activities. But I'd be very interested if you could quote specifics that prove me wrong. |
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Shammy Davis
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