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Isaac soloman
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Peter Jennings from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute said Australia and Japan were concerned about Beijing and "uncertain about the behaviour of China's military forces in the region".
"Neither of us wants to see China as a threat, but there's undeniable concern about Chinese behaviour and I think that's leading to the two countries getting closer," Mr Jennings said. Mr Turnbull said he would also discuss regional security challenges and in particular, North Korea's reckless and criminal behaviour. The strategy to bolster defence cooperation comes amid a dispute over Beijing's activities in the South China Sea, the strategic sub-region of the Indo Pacific. Last year, Australia discussed joint exercises with Japan and the United States, but India blocked the bid over concerns it could inflame diplomatic tensions with China. |
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Shammy Davis
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PT and Whale make it sound like China is no problem. So India thinks OZ is an irritant?
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maccamax
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Your firing the desperation guns Whale. Something has gone wrong with your cranial, Oxygen supply. Have you seen your Dr lately ? |
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India and Japan see themselves as competing rivals to China in their grand infrastructure plans. They may eventually cooperate with each other as the US switches it's focus from more traditional partners Pakistan to Russia's traditional ally India. The US walking away from the TPP and a buffer to China has left much of Asia looking for new alliances and partnerships.
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Whale
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Australia doesn't have to cross water to find our enemies , We've done a mighty job of importing them , allowing them to breed and join TBV. = [/QUOTE] poor senile Macca, thinks he has found a weak point and keeps repeating himself Let me help you Australia doesn't have to cross water to find our enemies , We've done a mighty job of importing them , allowing them to breed and join TBV. = [/QUOTE] |
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That's easy for you to say
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poor senile Macca, thinks he has found a weak point and keeps repeating himself Let me help you Australia doesn't have to cross water to find our enemies , We've done a mighty job of importing them , allowing them to breed and join TBV. = [/QUOTE] and whale is the resident bully [/QUOTE] and whale is the resident bully
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How dumb are Trump and his lawyer Michael Cohen.
Porn actress Stormy Daniels(stage name) is going on US ABC last year to talk about her having sex with Trump a year after he married Melania. Cohen pays her $130k to silence her She signs an agreement to not disclose, but she signs it under her stage name, so it is not legally binding, and stupid Cohen doesn't notice. Now she is blabbing about it and getting another payday
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Shammy Davis
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And India won't let you play? Pakistan doesn't have an ally either. There maybe an opening for OZ to have an ally in the neighborhood. And you can send our Marines home so we yanks can put them to good use. |
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Pakistan are doing ok, as will Afghanistan. The reason US has dropped Pakistan is that they have signed on with China and are expanding a trade route down through the major Islamic province of China through the pass down through Pakistan and Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean India see that as security risk to them and their claims to Kashmir. The US has come onboard to back them
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It branches off through Afghanistan into Iran, another partner
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It will totally restructure Pakistan
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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Shammy Davis
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Not as simple as that, but who am I to question your explanations of why we yanks do what we do. Afterall, who knows more about we yanks than you. I am totally mesmerized by your intuitive knowledge about our corrupt, deviant, violent, and imperialistic society and politics. For the life of me I can't understand why India doesn't want to play with OZ. Do you think they are intimidated by a country with such intelligence as you yourself provide? The maps are a nice deflection though. |
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No it isn't as simple as that The quarter of Afghanistan that you hold by a thread is cooperating with India to destabilise the three quarters of Afgh who are controlled by Taliban backed Russia to stop the project Gets very complicated and could get ugly
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Bingo !
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The green is road and rail, the blue obviously sea routes You can see why India is concerned, being encircled by China
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Shammy Davis
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So why is India not playing with OZ?
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They are. They are one of our biggest trade partners, sources of immigration, student visas etc. We are good friends.
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Australia hasn't signed up with China yet. They secured Darwin port as part of the project but our govt is keeping them at arms length, even insulting them
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reductio ad absurdum
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Pornstar no 2 Jessica Drake....more to come
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reductio ad absurdum
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What Pakistan's Decision to Pull Out of a Mega Dam Project Tells Us About the Future of CPECThere’s much more to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor than the rosy headlines touting friendship between Islamabad and Beijing. By Umair Jamal January 11, 2018 About a month ago, Pakistan withdrew its request to include the $14-billion Diamer-Bhasha Dam in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) project citing strict monetary conditions on Beijing’s part as being against the country’s national interests. The fact that an energy-starved country like Pakistan has pulled out of a dam project that it has not been able to complete on its own for years is significant. While the exclusion of a single major project doesn’t mean that the whole infrastructure scheme between the two countries is in danger, observers warn that Beijing’s strict monetary conditions have landed the future of Pakistan’s whole economy in a tight spot. The whole process of Chinese-funded projects has not been transparent. There are alarming reports about the levels of debt these secret dealings will impose on Pakistan. Michael Kugelman, the deputy director of the South Asia program at the Woodrow Wilson Center, believes that there is a growing realization among the policymakers in Islamabad that the long-term financial implications of a number of deals made under the CPEC are troubling for the country. “The debt repayment terms are not transparent and are difficult for outside analysts to access, but what seems clear is that Pakistan has put itself in a position where it will need to put very large amounts of money into debt servicing in the coming years. For an economy as fragile as Pakistan’s, that’s an undesirable and perhaps evens an untenable proposition,” says Kugelman. Enjoying this article? Click here to subscribe for full access. Just $5 a month.Apparently, the government in Pakistan is not interested in making the details of such dealings public, for it might generate serious controversy about how agreed upom financial terms are likely to pose a threat to Pakistan’s sovereignty in the long run. Practically, Islamabad’s emerging economic model is becoming dependent on China. However, at the same time, the country doesn’t have any other viable economic plans to revive its choked economy and domestic financial base. Over the last few years, Pakistan approached economic collapse on several occasions with China offering life-saving support to the country’s economy. If Beijing continues to push with its aggressive monetary conditions, it’s likely that in the coming years, Islamabad may cancel more projects which do not bode well for the overall commercial viability of the project. “A one-off incident of Pakistan backing away is not so serious, but if we start to see multiple cases of Pakistan walking away, then the very viability of CPEC could come into question. Given the astronomical level of importance that Pakistan and China have placed in CPEC, any suggestion that the project may not see itself through is cause for alarm,” suggests Kugelman. It’s unlikely that China will make any trade or monetary concessions to Pakistan that involve Beijing losing financial benefits with such mega infrastructure deals. China has aggressively pushed Pakistan toward accepting conditions that offer the former more leverage than the latter. The evidence in this regard is overwhelming: Pakistan’s Federal Minister for Ports and Shipping, Mir Hasil Bizenjo, recently advised the Senate that 91 percent of revenues generated by Gwadar port as part of CPEC will flow out to China, with Beijing virtually controlling all projects. Moreover, there are indications that the project is not likely to produce as many jobs for local Pakistanis as previously anticipated. Clearly, there are signs that both countries have developed differences over the issue of who stands to benefit strategically from the project in the long run. Seth Oldmixon, a public affairs consultant and the founder of Liberty South Asia, contends that concerns in Islamabad’s ruling circles in this respect are acutely serious: “There appears to be a realization among Pakistani decision makers that many of the deals are lopsided to the point of being exploitative.” Kugelman agrees: “The fact that Pakistan has backed away from several projects — coupled with the fact that China has itself backed away from a few projects — is significant in that it highlights that for all the heady talk and soaring rhetoric about CPEC and its successes, there are some significant constraints that need to be worked out.” There have also been other difficulties. The Chinese are worried about the presence of a number of jihadist groups in Pakistan. Secretly, China has been pushing Pakistan to take action against Islamist groups rising influence in the country which can directly pose a threat to Beijing’s regional economic plans and financial investments in Pakistan. While Beijing has long aided Islamabad’s position at the United Nations (UN) by blocking moves against a number of anti-India militant leaders, now that China is a direct stakeholder in Pakistan’s security, it’s reviewing its vocal support. During the recent BRICS summit, China, in an unprecedented shift from its previous policy of taking up strategic dialogues with Pakistan behind closed doors, agreed with the rest of the member states in issuing a joint statement, stating that a number of militant groups allegedly based in Pakistan remain a “regional security concern.” The groups comprised the ones that target India’s interests in the region. If Pakistan’s newly adopted policy of Jihadist mainstreaming goes parallel with a continued reduction in terror attacks in Pakistan – especially on CPEC route – the Chinese projects and these radical Islamist groups might coexist. However, if there is any surge in violence, Beijing will use its financial clout to arm-twist the Pakistani establishment. As Raza Rumi, a Pakistani writer, journalist and a public policy specialist argues:
He further adds that “China is cautious because it doesn’t want to annoy India with whom it has billions of dollars worth contracts.” However, so far, both states have avoided public confrontation over the surging problems under CPEC which, with all its due constraints, has strategic significance for both countries. “While CPEC and the relationship with China are considered too sensitive to be broadly criticized like the Pak-U.S. relationship, there are increasing signs of frustration among Pakistani officials,” says Oldmixon. “I imagine that China and Pakistan will work out arrangements that ensure a critical mass of projects to be carried out in their entirety. There’s too much at stake for both countries for it to be any other way,” adds Kugelman. All of this points toward the conclusion that beyond bilateral rhetorical flourishes, there remain some critical monetary, security, and capacity issues that can hamper the future of the CPEC. Certainly, growing frustrations on Pakistani side raise doubts as to whether the project will ever be concluded without leaving the country in profound debt. It remains to be seen how far can China go with its tough conditions, for there is a deepening urgency in Islamabad about saying “No” to Beijing’s habit of finding its wont with all deals that certainly undermine Pakistan’s interests. |
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While China has been content to free ride on the relative stability maintained by the United States in South Asia, its willingness to build on these efforts may prove instrumental in compelling Pakistan to give up its support of terror.
Arushi Kumar is a researcher at Carnegie India. A version of this piece originally appeared at South Asian Voices, an online platform for strategic analysis and debate hosted by the Stimson Center. |
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Both China and Russia are Venezuela's biggest creditors with over $60 billion in loans over the last 10 years Corruption and mismanagement have left them in dire straits Russia last week negotiated new minimum repayment terms for their $3.4b in loans loans over 10 years and China have held off on pressuring them to repay saying they are confident Venezuela can work their way through it.
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Very Good Djebel. Truth doesn't stand for much on here . So no comment from the merry band of traitors. Always best when there are 2 sides to the stories. |
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lol you really don't comprehend. She was paid $130,000 to sign that, she signed it under her stage name, so it means nothing. PT posted that hours ago |
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