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Morgan Dollar
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Ok so I’m on Boom Time at $301/$51 - thoughts on him in the big one after his win today...? |
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Go The Dollar..!
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Magnolian Khan
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Nice odds but he’ll need lots of luck to do the double. 3200 will be much tougher for him |
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Jamal
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Can Boom Time run 3200m? His one start at the distance was 11th in the Sydney Cup earlier this year.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Morgan Dollar
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Is Who Shot the Barman running in this years cup?
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Go The Dollar..!
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VPI
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Would you like to sell that bet?
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@value_punter
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FFB1975
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Long time lurker, small time poster. Wish I could sell you some of mine - backed it at $266 on the fair, sold close enough to 75% back at avg of just on $50 for small profit). Hard luck if wins, genius if doesn't :)
Marmelo was a perfect lead up yesterday, don't consider the Kergorlay a strong lead up for the cup now so never considered backing him but gee was the run you want to see for one that wants the 2 mile. |
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ThreeBears
Champion Joined: 13 Apr 2017 Status: Offline Points: 2911 |
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Liked Marmelo a lot before yesterday and see no reason to jump off now.
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oneonesit
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Refer ALP Election Promises
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Sunline
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I'll sell you the Ventura Storm one . I actually have Mug Punter to thank for Wall Of Fire. He tipped me into him a long while ago. If Almandin finds his best on the day he'll be unbeatable.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Magnolian Khan
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Still happy with my bet on Tiberian
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Jamal
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Its interesting....before the Caulfield Cup win...Boom Time was equal 51st in the order of entry for the Melbourne Cup...now he is guranteed a spot in the race....also Boom Time was nominated for the Geelong Cup, but I doubt he will go there
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Jamal
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Ryan Moore was booked to ride Red Cardinal but won't be able to make the trip to Australia.
Kerrin McEvoy has now been booked to ride Kerrin McEvoy...see link below for more details.. https://www.racing.com/news/2017-10-22/cardinal-crew-secure-red-hot-mcevoy |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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max manewer
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Breeding Above All
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Would take McEvoy any day!
Nick Williams on twitter announcing they are looking to have 5 or 6 entrants.. 'we are particularly excited by Bondi Beach'... what.. not even well off in the weights.. I just don't get this.. horrific form in Aus |
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Magnolian Khan
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McEvoy is riding himself Rofl |
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Jamal
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Sorry my mistake. Typo error.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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max manewer
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Probably wins the cup now !
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max manewer
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From the punting viewpoint, the MC is nowadays just TFH. Prince of Penzance should have cured youse all !
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JudgeHolden
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Best race of the year to bet on. So much mug money in the pools. I remember a few years ago Maythehorsebewithyou starting at at fraction of its proper price because people liked it's name. The one race of the year when people who have absolutely no idea shape a market. Never easy to find, but value everywhere.
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max manewer
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Might have been once, not any more, I think. If there is "value everywhere", but it is "never easy to find", we have a contradiction.
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max manewer
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.......and Maythehorsebewithyou was $12 SP and averaged $9.9 on the totes. That does not provide value elsewhere.
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cabosanlucas
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i dunno, it seems like in recent years, the cup has a bunch of horse at $26 or thereabouts, when a few of them should be double that price. obvioously its just the way the market plays out but yeah...i think the "big value" in the race is found in early markets, not ao much on the day.
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JudgeHolden
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I should say there are are 24 horses with different formlines so the winner isn’t necessarily easy to find. But with millions of once a year punters engaged, it’s certainly a time to try. |
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max manewer
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The influx of foreign horses makes it a different ball game. It has become a guessing game, but with the percentages still loaded against you. If there is a rule to adhere to, it is probably to ignore horses that have gone around in the race previously, they are usually unders anyway. Makybe Divas don't come along too often.
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JudgeHolden
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In my time following horse racing, I can’t think of too many blowouts in the Cup. A Green Moon here or there at 20s. Prince of Penzance was very much an exception.
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ExceedAndExcel
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Does anyone have handy a list of past trifecta & first 4 dividends for say the last 10 years at all? Save me searching for them. Any or all totes will do.
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max manewer
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Trifecta NSW $
20001107FLE.8GZ 3577 20011106FLE.7GZ 6343.3 20021105FLE.7GZ 2444.8 20031104FLE.7GZ 12895.6 20041102FLE.7GZ 3140.4 20051101FLE.7GZ 7773 20061107FLE.7GZ 1040 20071106FLE.7GZ 1377.4 20081104FLE.7GZ 21080.7 20091103FLE.7GZ 8694.6 20101102FLE.7GZ 267.3 20111101FLE.7GZ 4798.1 20121106FLE.7GZ 51177.3 20131105FLE.7GZ 3813.1 20141104FLE.7GZ 2202.4 20151103FLE.7GZ 26045 20161101FLE.7GZ 1380.6 First 4 NSW $ 20001107FLE.8GZ 39805 20011106FLE.7GZ 221730.4 20021105FLE.7GZ 15830.6 20031104FLE.7GZ 105243.3 20041102FLE.7GZ 39221.1 20051101FLE.7GZ 73900 20061107FLE.7GZ 9187.9 20071106FLE.7GZ 8484.9 20081104FLE.7GZ 407215.4 20091103FLE.7GZ 80963.9 20101102FLE.7GZ 6910.5 20111101FLE.7GZ 22717.8 20121106FLE.7GZ 1467099.6 20131105FLE.7GZ 107190.9 20141104FLE.7GZ 18884 20151103FLE.7GZ 185975 20161101FLE.7GZ 20761.1 |
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Tassam
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I can only assume Nick had his Twitter acc hacked. Bondi Beach?? Form of 9-0 in 2 lead up races. And over longer distances too, not like starting off at 1400/1600m. And last year's MC, beaten 11L... Seems a ridiculous scenario that they'll have 5 or 6 runners, and prob only 2 or 3 of them are actually in form. I really despise running a horse simply because it's in the race. Prob 6-8 every MC that shouldn't be allowed to run. But I supppose they want their pace makers... Which I assume is actually against the rules of racing in Aus?? So blatant. Especially after CC fiasco. Still I suppose we'll see if he's in form if he runs in Geelong Cup |
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Mug-Punter
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Well said!! RV the incompetent fools wouldn't have the balls to remove a Williams runner who everyone knows is just there to be a pacemaker. |
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The Mugg
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ExceedAndExcel
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Perfect! I knew you would have them! Thanks for that. |
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