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Originally posted by Morgan Dollar Morgan Dollar wrote:

Afternoon all,

Is Boom Time a chance to scrape in here? would the Lindsay Park team aim him for this?

Would likely need to win the Lexus of the BC to get in...



Ok so I’m on Boom Time at $301/$51 - thoughts on him in the big one after his win today...?
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Originally posted by Morgan Dollar Morgan Dollar wrote:

Originally posted by Morgan Dollar Morgan Dollar wrote:

Afternoon all,

Is Boom Time a chance to scrape in here? would the Lindsay Park team aim him for this?

Would likely need to win the Lexus of the BC to get in...



Ok so I’m on Boom Time at $301/$51 - thoughts on him in the big one after his win today...?


Nice odds but he’ll need lots of luck to do the double. 3200 will be much tougher for him
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Can Boom Time run 3200m? His one start at the distance was 11th in the Sydney Cup earlier this year.

Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Morgan Dollar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 11:58pm
Is Who Shot the Barman running in this years cup?
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Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Comfortable with my darts at the moment although we know so much changes so quickly.

Almandin $13
Red Cardinal $18
Ventura Storm $41
Wall Of Fire $201/$51 - I don't even know why I backed him. Pleased it was only small!

Also have an investment in Bonneval to do the double @ $51.
Would you like to sell that bet?Cool
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Long time lurker, small time poster. Wish I could sell you some of mine - backed it at $266 on the fair, sold close enough to 75% back at avg of just on $50 for small profit). Hard luck if wins, genius if doesn't :)

Marmelo was a perfect lead up yesterday, don't consider the Kergorlay a strong lead up for the cup now so never considered backing him but gee was the run you want to see for one that wants the 2 mile.

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Liked Marmelo a lot before yesterday and see no reason to jump off now.
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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Can Boom Time run 3200m? His one start at the distance was 11th in the Sydney Cup earlier this year.

Based on yesterday he could do another 3 laps & beat those behind him.
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Originally posted by VPI VPI wrote:

Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Comfortable with my darts at the moment although we know so much changes so quickly.

Almandin $13
Red Cardinal $18
Ventura Storm $41
Wall Of Fire $201/$51 - I don't even know why I backed him. Pleased it was only small!

Also have an investment in Bonneval to do the double @ $51.
Would you like to sell that bet?Cool

I'll sell you the Ventura Storm one Confused.

I actually have Mug Punter to thank for Wall Of Fire. He tipped me into him a long while ago.

If Almandin finds his best on the day he'll be unbeatable.
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Still happy with my bet on Tiberian
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Its interesting....before the Caulfield Cup win...Boom Time was equal 51st in the order of entry for the Melbourne Cup...now he is guranteed a spot in the race....also Boom Time was nominated for the Geelong Cup, but I doubt he will go there
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Ryan Moore was booked to ride Red Cardinal but won't be able to make the trip to Australia.

Kerrin McEvoy has now been booked to ride Kerrin McEvoy...see link below for more details..


https://www.racing.com/news/2017-10-22/cardinal-crew-secure-red-hot-mcevoy
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Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:


Kerrin McEvoy has now been booked to ride Kerrin McEvoy...see link below for more details..



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Would take McEvoy any day!

Nick Williams on twitter announcing they are looking to have 5 or 6 entrants.. 'we are particularly excited by Bondi Beach'... what.. not even well off in the weights.. I just don't get this.. horrific form in Aus
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:


Kerrin McEvoy has now been booked to ride Kerrin McEvoy...see link below for more details..





McEvoy is riding himself Rofl
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Sorry my mistake. Typo error.
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Probably wins the cup now !
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From the punting viewpoint, the MC is nowadays just TFH. Prince of Penzance should have cured youse all !
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Best race of the year to bet on. So much mug money in the pools. I remember a few years ago Maythehorsebewithyou starting at at fraction of its proper price because people liked it's name. The one race of the year when people who have absolutely no idea shape a market. Never easy to find, but value everywhere.
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Might have been once, not any more, I think. If there is "value everywhere", but it is "never easy to find", we have a contradiction.
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.......and Maythehorsebewithyou was $12 SP and averaged $9.9 on the totes. That does not provide value elsewhere.
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i dunno, it seems like in recent years, the cup has a bunch of horse at $26 or thereabouts, when a few of them should be double that price. obvioously its just the way the market plays out but yeah...i think the "big value" in the race is found in early markets, not ao much on the day.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Might have been once, not any more, I think. If there is "value everywhere", but it is "never easy to find", we have a contradiction.


I should say there are are 24 horses with different formlines so the winner isn’t necessarily easy to find. But with millions of once a year punters engaged, it’s certainly a time to try.
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The influx of foreign horses makes it a different ball game. It has become a guessing game, but with the percentages still loaded against you. If there is a rule to adhere to, it is probably to ignore horses that have gone around in the race previously, they are usually unders anyway. Makybe Divas don't come along too often.
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In my time following horse racing, I can’t think of too many blowouts in the Cup. A Green Moon here or there at 20s. Prince of Penzance was very much an exception.
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Does anyone have handy a list of past trifecta & first 4 dividends for say the last 10 years at all? Save me searching for them. Any or all totes will do.
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Trifecta NSW             $
20001107FLE.8GZ        3577
20011106FLE.7GZ      6343.3
20021105FLE.7GZ      2444.8
20031104FLE.7GZ     12895.6
20041102FLE.7GZ      3140.4
20051101FLE.7GZ        7773
20061107FLE.7GZ        1040
20071106FLE.7GZ      1377.4
20081104FLE.7GZ     21080.7
20091103FLE.7GZ      8694.6
20101102FLE.7GZ      267.3
20111101FLE.7GZ      4798.1
20121106FLE.7GZ     51177.3
20131105FLE.7GZ      3813.1
20141104FLE.7GZ      2202.4
20151103FLE.7GZ      26045
20161101FLE.7GZ      1380.6
     
     
     
     
     
First 4 NSW                $
20001107FLE.8GZ         39805
20011106FLE.7GZ      221730.4
20021105FLE.7GZ      15830.6
20031104FLE.7GZ      105243.3
20041102FLE.7GZ      39221.1
20051101FLE.7GZ         73900
20061107FLE.7GZ        9187.9
20071106FLE.7GZ        8484.9
20081104FLE.7GZ      407215.4
20091103FLE.7GZ      80963.9
20101102FLE.7GZ        6910.5
20111101FLE.7GZ      22717.8
20121106FLE.7GZ     1467099.6
20131105FLE.7GZ      107190.9
20141104FLE.7GZ         18884
20151103FLE.7GZ        185975
20161101FLE.7GZ      20761.1
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Originally posted by Breeding Above All Breeding Above All wrote:

Would take McEvoy any day!

Nick Williams on twitter announcing they are looking to have 5 or 6 entrants.. 'we are particularly excited by Bondi Beach'... what.. not even well off in the weights.. I just don't get this.. horrific form in Aus



I can only assume Nick had his Twitter acc hacked.

Bondi Beach?? Form of 9-0 in 2 lead up races. And over longer distances too, not like starting off at 1400/1600m. And last year's MC, beaten 11L...

Seems a ridiculous scenario that they'll have 5 or 6 runners, and prob only 2 or 3 of them are actually in form. I really despise running a horse simply because it's in the race. Prob 6-8 every MC that shouldn't be allowed to run.

But I supppose they want their pace makers... Which I assume is actually against the rules of racing in Aus?? So blatant. Especially after CC fiasco.

Still I suppose we'll see if he's in form if he runs in Geelong Cup
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Originally posted by Tassam Tassam wrote:

Originally posted by Breeding Above All Breeding Above All wrote:

Would take McEvoy any day!

Nick Williams on twitter announcing they are looking to have 5 or 6 entrants.. 'we are particularly excited by Bondi Beach'... what.. not even well off in the weights.. I just don't get this.. horrific form in Aus



I can only assume Nick had his Twitter acc hacked.

Bondi Beach?? Form of 9-0 in 2 lead up races. And over longer distances too, not like starting off at 1400/1600m. And last year's MC, beaten 11L...

Seems a ridiculous scenario that they'll have 5 or 6 runners, and prob only 2 or 3 of them are actually in form. I really despise running a horse simply because it's in the race. Prob 6-8 every MC that shouldn't be allowed to run.

But I supppose they want their pace makers... Which I assume is actually against the rules of racing in Aus?? So blatant. Especially after CC fiasco.

Still I suppose we'll see if he's in form if he runs in Geelong Cup


Well said!! RV the incompetent fools wouldn't have the balls to remove a Williams runner who everyone knows is just there to be a pacemaker.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Trifecta NSW              $
20001107FLE.8GZ        3577
20011106FLE.7GZ      6343.3
20021105FLE.7GZ      2444.8
20031104FLE.7GZ     12895.6
20041102FLE.7GZ      3140.4
20051101FLE.7GZ        7773
20061107FLE.7GZ        1040
20071106FLE.7GZ      1377.4
20081104FLE.7GZ     21080.7
20091103FLE.7GZ      8694.6
20101102FLE.7GZ       267.3
20111101FLE.7GZ      4798.1
20121106FLE.7GZ     51177.3
20131105FLE.7GZ      3813.1
20141104FLE.7GZ      2202.4
20151103FLE.7GZ       26045
20161101FLE.7GZ      1380.6
     
     
     
     
     
First 4 NSW                $
20001107FLE.8GZ         39805
20011106FLE.7GZ      221730.4
20021105FLE.7GZ       15830.6
20031104FLE.7GZ      105243.3
20041102FLE.7GZ       39221.1
20051101FLE.7GZ         73900
20061107FLE.7GZ        9187.9
20071106FLE.7GZ        8484.9
20081104FLE.7GZ      407215.4
20091103FLE.7GZ       80963.9
20101102FLE.7GZ        6910.5
20111101FLE.7GZ       22717.8
20121106FLE.7GZ     1467099.6
20131105FLE.7GZ      107190.9
20141104FLE.7GZ         18884
20151103FLE.7GZ        185975
20161101FLE.7GZ       20761.1



Perfect! I knew you would have them!
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