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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11728 |
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Don’t believe it. Love your insights into the caper, Carioca.
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maccamax
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These whip rules are absurd. He won the race , what else do they want.
Reminds me of Bart's famous reply when the Inspector told him he had too many flies around the stable. Bart asked , How many flies was he allowed. |
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21821 |
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This may burst like an enormous carbuncle one day, 3 strokes over the max allowed, big money involved, an owner just may say fcuk this I'm protesting, then the manewer will fly imo.
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Carioca
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Kind words Judge, thanks. |
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 17383 |
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Owner of Brave Smash is pissed off. His horse did not breach the rules and was beaten a nose by a horse who did. Time for a rule change, whip breach = disqualification |
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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It's all show - except in Qld where they use crystal balls to determine if any advantage was taken. Near impossible to tell if extra strikes help, or by how much.
However, if you have the rule police it every day, and make the penalty significant. Stewards are treating those who don't transgress with disdain with piddling penalties, esp in big races.
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horlicks
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At least 2 jockeys were suspended today.
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djebel
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Does not matter whether they gain an advantage. They break the rule, there must be consequences that discourage them doing so. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Carioca
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I s'pose in all reality it's a " Claytons" rule , isn't it.
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3blindmice
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It matters only when protests are considered djebel. On reflection I think moderate penalties are appropriate because the notion that jockeys should concentrate on distances and whip strikes is nonsense imo. Moral is don't be afraid to put a few down the rump if you believe it is needed, don't do it if it's not. And be as kind as you can to your mount.
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BlackKnight
Champion Joined: 10 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3096 |
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I know you're Weir's biggest fan but the horse was beaten far more than a nose. Were the owners upset because their horses couldn't run a drum at Tuncurry? |
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Sir Gov
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Love Brave Smash - but he was also in the fast lanes. RK is just a freak down the straight.
All credit to Hayes team - they know what makes RK tick
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31422 |
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Very hard to beat at Ascot if he arrives there in this type of form and not last springs.
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Shawy38
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0.1L is a nose |
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Gay3
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I was also dirty when I heard as I was on at $11 with the boost
Who knows if BS would have found more with a couple of extra smacks too? |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Shrunk in the Wash
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Stunning performance from the winner
Can he win a 3rd Newmarket |
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Smoke and Mirrors
Champion Joined: 10 Sep 2016 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
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Ascot update
R Bayliss sacked , Dettori to ride |
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"Go Hard or Go Home”
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Sneck
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I'm definitely going to be backing him.
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Long Row
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Have they confirmed which race he's going to run in? And has Merchant Navy?
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Smoke and Mirrors
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Redkirk will run in the Diamond Jubilee
Will not have another run beforehand, trying to organise flights at the moment |
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"Go Hard or Go Home”
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Long Row
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Cheers
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djebel
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I think it's a ridiculous and unnecessary jockey chamge. The bloke has got the best out of him twice in pressure cooker environments and knows the horse. There will be noughing dramatically different at Ascot. At least Bayliss will not cop the blame when he fails to run down the leaders. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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noughing 🤔
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reductio ad absurdum
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Prince of Penzance
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Plane leaves Melbourne to the Uk at 9.30 tonight
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Sneck
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Please bet overs eurotrash betfair mugs
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TJMitchell
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TFW you wanted to buy him 4 years ago after his maiden win at Yarmouth
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Sunline
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Time to get on. Confirmed for Diamond Jubilee, NOT Kings Stand.
Merchant Navy is one of mine and has been since day dot. But Redkirk beat him fair and square last time and meets him something like 5kg better for doing so. On the flip side Merchant Navy is not only settled in but in winning form. I lean to Redkirk, especially given the far better value. $7 with the TAB.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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MJB
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TAB have a special up which looks very enticing...
Either Redkirk Warrior OR Merchant Navy to win the Diamond Jubilee @ $4.20. I don't know the English form but what l do know is our sprinters are usually better than anything the UK has to offer. That theory has been good to me over the years. $4.20 looks a bet to me. Two bites at the cherry. |
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djebel
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I am no mathematician, One is $5.00, the other is $7. What should a combined price be ? There are 5 others that are serious dangers, Tasleet who was beaten by Merchant Navy but should improve for the run, The Tin Man, Harry Angel, Limato and Wesley Wards Bound For Nowhere scare me. Not an easy race by any stretch. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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