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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8659 |
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Why is it an overrated title? |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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It is not overrated title. It is simply people talking for the sake of talking. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11716 |
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Redzel is a consistent and quality sprinter but I also think his timing has been good. Chautauqua on the downside and not much else around. Don't think his peak is as good as a few we've had in recent years (didn't seem to stop everyone calling a dual G1 winner a "champion" on the broadcast yesterday ). Reckon he's about on par with say a Buffering, which is still pretty good.
What's overseas I have idea. |
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Speediskey
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 4116 |
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Yeah I’d say around on par with Buffering as well, but Buff raced in the best sprinting age of all time. |
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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8659 |
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Bufferin won overseas as well
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Shrunk in the Wash
Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 9890 |
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djebel
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Which is exciting but meaningless in itself in discussing the class of a horse. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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maccamax
Champion Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
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lol BUFFERING ... Be nice to have one to compare with the Buff.
I think Redzel lost momentum at the start yesterday and at R1, wasn't able to overcome the early petrol use. The finish was sensational and it makes for a top rematch. |
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djebel
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I'd have to look at the start again but it can not have been much more of a factor in the result than the check that Redkirk Warrior copped at about 500 or wherever it was ? |
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reductio ad absurdum
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maccamax
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Redkirk Warrior does have to ease around "his tow" into races.
Redzel is a "with the pace" sprinter and yesterday it is obvious on replay and Stewards, That he knuckld , became unbalanced after hitting the side of the gates and had momentum and position to regain. He looked home and the winner produced a final 600 rarely seen . Both Horses did a mighty job. |
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11716 |
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He ran into BC and Hay List. Repeatedly. Probably wins another half a dozen G1s if not for those two freaks. Then along came Lankan Rupee and Chautauqua. Think Speediskey's comment is pretty obvious. |
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31290 |
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World's best, presumably, means you could take that horse anywhere, on any track, and be reasonably confident it would win, which is far more than I could say about Redzel or Redkirk Warrior.
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ThreeBears
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America's leading sprinter Roy H by More Than Ready is a fair animal. He's aiming for the Golden Shaheen on DWC night.
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18699 |
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Just on his final 600m.
I seem to remember Chautauqua running a similar finale, in this race if my memory serves, the year he beat Terravista and Japonisme. Also there was a win by All Silent which had everyone flabbergasted, might have been the Darley in the spring. |
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Carioca
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It was the Patinak ( was this the Darley?) All Silent ran 1-8-78, final 600, 33-14, bit of an old favourite of mine as he was a half brother to the bonny Private Steer,
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Go Flash Go
Champion Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 10245 |
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Redkirk Warrior .... is pretty much a Champion in my books ... if not already. Black Heart Bart nearly won the Newmarket first-up ... Redkirk Warrior did ... and confirmed it since |
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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I followed him right through the spring and was a bit let down by his results. Stuck strong though and thought 1st up down the straight was right up his alley. Happy to take the $10 on offer.
Don't think Redzel lost too many admirers. Still Australia's best sprinter. |
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tillyras
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2012 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 7540 |
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Good horse
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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8659 |
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Has to be up there with Redzel for best sprinter in Australia right now. Great win carrying topweight.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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What a horse! Absolutely love him.
He's hugely underrated. Now has 2 x Newmarkets and 1 x Lightning - that's special.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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maccamax
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That was special ... Heart in mouth job .. I feared he got beaten. Great price with his record. That's 5 wins from 7 on good tracks in Oz. |
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Totally agree with all of the above, Macca. I didn't tip strongly as was an open race, but I could not believe his price and tipped as big value to some mates and bet accordingly.
The Newmarket is winnable for classy sprinters at the top of weights. Lightning always the better form for the race.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Nick
Champion Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3442 |
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Massive overs :)
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 17253 |
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Not exactly a fair win
Regan Bayliss (Redkirk Warrior (GB)) - pleaded guilty to a charge under the provisions of AR137A(5)(a)(ii) for using his whip eight times prior to the 100m, which is three times more than permitted, two of which were consecutive. Regan Bayliss had his licence to ride in races suspended for a period to commence at the conclusion of his careless riding suspension incurred last week, at midnight April 1st and to expire at midnight April 7th, a total of eight race meetings (two metropolitan, six provincial). Regan Bayliss was also fined the sum of $5000. In assessing penalty Stewards took into account he won the race which was a Group 1 event. |
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11716 |
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How can eight times be three time more than permitted? |
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21698 |
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Read it again judge, my understanding is you are allowed 5 strokes before the 100 , he used it 8, ..or am I wrong?
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JudgeHolden
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Three more than permitted? Three times more than permitted
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JudgeHolden
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Sorry mate. It was a (admittedly bad) joke.
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Carioca
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It's been a looooong day for me, and I am naive at the best of times.
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Red Hare
Champion Joined: 12 Jan 2015 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 4233 |
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Happy 21st Regan.
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