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SYT
Champion Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8337 |
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Interesting... in his pre-race updates on the horse he was rather confident, even first up. |
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SYT
Champion Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8337 |
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How poorly placed has this bloke been? Just the 1 win in 11 starts... feels like he should have a few more wins to his name
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Agree. New trainer req'd
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Carioca
Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 21830 |
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MissRock similar, having said that probably wins tomorrow.
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SkyDancer
Champion Joined: 02 Aug 2014 Location: Cranbourne Status: Offline Points: 8429 |
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Probably not going to change trainers anytime soon, Robbie part owns them both
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Nocturnal
Champion Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Location: at the 800 Status: Offline Points: 13667 |
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doesnt seem to be an owner of SSB
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The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on....
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Where did he come from?
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Flight
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Nambucca Valley Status: Offline Points: 3897 |
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The rear.
Always travelling. |
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“The probability of a certain set of circumstances coming together in a meaningful (or tragic) way is so low that it simply cannot be considered mere coincidence. ”
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Jeepers, just saw the replay
HUGE |
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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His dam is Black Minx, he might be better being kept fresh and 1200m.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Knowing Robbie, he could run in the Melbourne Cup on the Tuesday and the Sprint on the Saturday
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Will probably chuck him into top grade straight away again. Needs to get some wins under the belt against the lesser horses imo.
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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Apparently the Epsom and Toorack are his targets.
The big question, how much racing will he do to get to those races ? |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Sneck
Champion Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Location: Payout Queue Status: Offline Points: 7555 |
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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So Si Bon to emulate Cole Diesel?Andrew Eddy (@fastisheddy) & Ben Asgari (@BenAsgariRacing) 3:02pm Trainer Robbie Laing claims his talented four-year-old So Si Bon is so versatile he might be able to emulate the incredible 1989 feat of Cole Diesel by winning a Toorak Handicap and then a Caulfield Cup seven days later. So Si Bon caught the eye first-up with a slashing fresh run at Flemington and Laing said he was likely to run the horse at Caulfield on Saturday week before setting him towards the lofty Group 1 double in October. "I might do a Cole Diesel and run him in the Toorak Handicap and then Caulfield Cup," Laing said on Tuesday. "He can run all distances. He ran fourth in the (Victoria) Derby and I thought he was a good thing beaten. He missed the kick, gave them 15 lengths start and ran fourth." In 1989, the Greg Mance-owned and trained Cole Diesel won the 1600-metre Toorak Handicap with a late burst and then seven days later backed up in the 2400-metre Caulfield Cup to again round up the field to score. So Si Bon turned in an impressive first-up fresh run over 1000m at Flemington when he beat all but Sunday Escape after coming from last and Laing said he was looking to run him again on Memsie Stakes Day. "We could see him at Caulfield over 1100 metres on Saturday. We'd love to go to the Memsie but all the good judges tell me that no way known will he get a run as he's only an 88-rater," he said. "At the end of the day, he's only won a Pakenham maiden so he gets into races like the Bobbie Lewis and the Sir Rupert Clarke on the minimum. "Gee, you think he'd be hard to beat over 1400 metres on the minimum in three or four weeks' time." Laing was speaking from Moonee Valley where he took a handful of other spring hopefuls for a gallop. Afterwards he said his three-year-old Frankel My Dear was set to run at the track this Saturday, along with Missrock and his imported stayer Darabad. "Frankel My Dear is improving all the time," he said. "Three months ago he was flat winning an average trial but he's just improved. He went to seconds in trials and then winning trials and his run the other day was great. His last sectional was good and he's improved again. "He put it to Missrock throughout their work this morning and I thought their work was exceptional." Laing said Missrock is also a likely Valley runner. "We are going to bring her forward to run on Saturday because on the Mornington Peninsula it has been so wet and we've been starved of a lot of grass gallops and I don't want to go to the races we've picked out for her in a month's time underdone," he said. Darabad will also reappear after being gelded during his spell. "Darabad needs to get going and so he'll run in the 1600," he said. "They'll be a bit quick for him but he's a gelding now and is far more genuine. His work is much better this time in. "Ultimately, the Melbourne Cup (is his goal) but it's a hard race to get into so he'll have to win a Herbert Power or a Geelong Cup." |
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reductio ad absurdum
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monty1
Champion Joined: 30 May 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1060 |
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Does Robbie have a dartboard to plan his horses preparations? He has some of the most poorly placed horses I've seen.
I would love to know the amount of his horses that go around in races at 100/1? There are plenty and a lot of his runners finish back towards the tail of the field, his strike rate must be pretty bad. |
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Sunline
Champion Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 22302 |
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Polanski must have been the second coming of Tulloch.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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I think the Toorak over 1600m is right for So Si Bon. His best run ever imo was in the Caulfield Guineas.
My only concern is the Toorak is a long way off and he might have the zip trained out of him by then. |
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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mikey
Champion Joined: 01 Nov 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 511 |
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Is he likely to make the field for the Rupert Clarke?
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Vivarchi
Champion Joined: 15 Jan 2017 Status: Offline Points: 537 |
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"So Si Bon to emulate Cole Diesel"
Hasn't been done for 30 years. Sounds like a great plan from Robbie. I guess it tickled his fancy. Good luck to So Si Bon. Horse has a lot of talent.
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 17413 |
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Flying this prep
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scamanda
Champion Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: The Manor Status: Offline Points: 16246 |
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He has to be the best looking horse running around in Australia at present.
A big black bull just like his sire So You Think and his dam sire Lonhro. |
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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mikey
Champion Joined: 01 Nov 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 511 |
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I am on the bandwagon now. Have taken him @ $18 in the Rupert Clake & Toorak and even a bite of $151 for the Caulfield Cup.
He really looks like he is flying this spring and some of his dad's talent looks to have flowed down. |
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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8684 |
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Is So Si Bon an automatic starter innthe Caulfield and Melbourne Cups ir does he have too win to make the fields?
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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He needs to get his rating up.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 52012 |
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He's got Buckleys of being sound come November or even mid October |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Flight
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Nambucca Valley Status: Offline Points: 3897 |
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1200-1600. 2000 at a max.
He is not a 2400m+ horse. |
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31448 |
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if they have cups plans they are going about it in a funny way, with a 1000m then an 1100m race.
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 52012 |
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Don't forget who trains him Tlaz
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Magnolian Khan
Champion Joined: 23 Dec 2015 Location: SA Status: Offline Points: 8437 |
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Main aim is the Rupert Clarke this prep.
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