Craig Williams

max manewer wrote: There is little barrier or on-pace bias at that start these days.

I'm relying on a failing memory , but the last horse I saw win from well back in Randwick sprints were on heavy ground.

max manewer wrote: When you look at the stats for horses that press on from wide draws, you see it is far preferable to easing. SETTLING POSITION     % RETURN (SP) 1-4                             110 5-8                               84 9-12                             70 13+                               60

Good stats Max.. That supports the on pace debate .
Shame for the Everest fav. that connections weren't aware, apparently .
Brownie points for Sunline's argument.

If Redzel stays home, or gets a migraine going around to the start, Vega Magic romps in, and Craig has ridden a blinder. You can over-analyse these things.

Those are just some numbers I have cobbled together, They are pretty accurate, but of limited utility, as guessing where they finish up in the run in a very inexact science, to say the least. But it does show that pressing on is a better plan, by and large. Depending on the sectionals of course, but you don't know what they will carve out before the jump either. Maybe the smarter jocks know it is more the percentage play, but you don't know what instructions they have been given,that might over-ride their natural inclination.

maccamax wrote: max manewer wrote: There is little barrier or on-pace bias at that start these days. I'm relying on a failing memory , but the last horse I saw win from well back in Randwick sprints were on heavy ground.

Yes, not a great deal of advantage to be forward in the run there, on the wet, by the looks. Other places, generally still better up front. Getting clods in the face can't make them go forward !

Vega Magic has won 12 races ,but none as quick as this race was ran at . That should tell us something.

exactly.

hatch wrote: Vega Magic has won 12 races ,but none as quick as this race was ran at . That should tell us something.

Hi Hatch.. Good obs.    . The variables of racing are more complex than Chess.
To win on the punt :- In order:- A bank, Self control of that bank,
recognising poor value,    Patience,
I've got none of the above now days .

Good Form Students have no trouble coming up with enough winners.
Recognise horses are truly honest in the main, only peak near to the Grand Final.
Only give your time to the open class and better restricted age races.
Realise there are few atheists about when the photo is close.
Pleased to see u again.

lover of just sitting deep no cover without a care in the world.

I agree it's not a harsh deep run, no question. But it doesn't change that it's better again to be one off the fence or leading. My only question there is, when you've drawn 10 and your horse begins like a bull out of a gate and you can get across with some urgency, why hand up and let them muster underneath you? He just sits there casually as though he's riding in Ireland.

According to Trakus JUKEBOX covered 2m more than FORMALITY

Can only hope the fish he is having this week is high in omega 3s to enhance neurotransmitter connection and cognitive function so as to give Amelies Star every chance in the cup on Saturday.

After vega magic, now jukebox today I'm not sure I could handle another willow stinkfist when so much is at stake

I'm still waiting to hear from someone who was gifted a winner, because some jockey on an opposing runner, rode a dodgy race. One day......

Well some of Sydney,s finest left a gap a mack truck could get thru on the rails , for Robert, who took full advantage of it, and won on his only ride in Sydney .  I think it was , anyway.  Last Sat.
So I think I was gifted a winner thanks to all the rest of the jocks in that race on Sat.
The old bushie blew them away

In all seriousness, they weren't going that hard in the Everest and Williams was on a G1 1400m animal that does most of his winning from the pointy end of the pack... in my mind, he wussed out of a speed battle that didn't exist.