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Smoke and Mirrors
Champion Joined: 10 Sep 2016 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
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Posted: 01 Oct 2016 at 12:09am |
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that ride on Sir Bacchus was horrible
I am sick of the gelati he dishes up week in week out and gets away with. Edited by Gay3 - 11 Feb 2018 at 7:58am |
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"Go Hard or Go Home”
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Xavier
Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2016 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 3660 |
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I wish he'd retire.
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BlackKnight
Champion Joined: 10 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3096 |
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Keep talking through your kick fellas, third in the premiership with far less opportunities than the two ahead of him.
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swanks
Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1103 |
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Give it up. He's a jockey, they ride 500 - 600kg beasts around a course, and a short course at that, which doesn't give the jockey much time to make a decision or calculate where the others are making their runs. Bad ride? Yes. Will other jockeys do it? Yes.
Maybe we should adopt straight racing everywhere with lanes, bit like 100m sprint. No interference, no finding trouble. Just a straight lane. Then get rid of jockeys all together. Put on robots, let the punters all have a crack at controlling the robots (as long as they're invested on the horse), maybe even let the owners do it Either way, we all eff up, you guys are just lucky your not being judged on national tv |
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Ermyn Lodge
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Moonee Valley and Canterbury pony tracks should be closed. Wide draws make racing a little more dangerous and severely disadvantage some runners. Jockeys are often victims of circumstance. Cities do not need 3 tracks. Better to build a training only complex out of town where horses can enjoy country settings than be trussed up in boxes. Then city tracks can be more readily maintained without wear and tear of training and trials with the infield made into a golf course or other sporting facility.
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JimmyUK
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Alot of sore losers on this forum tonight.
If he wins then Williams is an amazing jockey. If he loses then punters eviscerate him. Perhaps the horse was a piece of turd and it's not entirely his fault. Is there anyway I can delete my account? This forum is depressing. |
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djebel
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Anybody who says "Perhaps the horse is a piece of turd" should be banned for life from the forum, You piece of turd. I should be safe with that comment a halfwit would know if they do not want to participate they simply would not return. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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What exactly was wrong with the ride ? This is Moonee Valley, You have to factor in hard luck stories into your pricing of a runner. Williams would have need a helicopter to get into the clear. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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therealkramer
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Willie Pike only needed a pogo stick to get Elite Belle clear in the 2014 Railway Stakes.....good times |
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Kingy
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Probably rides 3 or 4 winners today and sticks it right up the critics. But that's racing...
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JimmyUK
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Punters are a fickle lot. The best hoops win about 25℅ of races, so even they lose three quarters of the time.
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Sworn Revenge
Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1210 |
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Too right Blacknight. Rode a treble at the last Sat metro meeting and the Vic metro premiership last season but never let cold hard facts get in the way of potting someone. Djebel is right. If you want to bet at Moonee Valley then caveat emptor because it's always going to produce hard luck stories |
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It's only called gambling when you lose
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subastral
Champion Joined: 28 Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 34887 |
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My theory on Craig. He studies races a lot and his prep is excellent. However, when the speed map doesntplan out, or the race is different, he lacks the quick thinking to step into plan B. Oliver and Bowman leave him for dead in this aspect. His bad rides are consistently worse than other elite jockeys and he rides poor more often. I don't think its a coincidence.
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Carioca
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By gee Kev,.take away Eagle Farm and the Sunshine Coast,..and all the rest of your tracks up there are " depends" tracks,..you need variation not only by design,.but also to make decisions outside the square IMO. |
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swanks
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I would agree with that subby. He's usually a good judge, especially of track conditions. But brain farts happen, and the valley wouldn't help him either. Blake shinn is another jockey i reckon struggles to read the valley. His ride on my country showed he didn't read the race/track
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RED HUNTER
Champion Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Location: PERTH Status: Offline Points: 16334 |
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I agree with djebel,you have to expect the worst when betting at Moonee Valley.
MV is the only Victorian track I've visited (1969)and I came away thinking,what a rubbish track (to bet) as for Craig Williams,if you want to condemn a ride,look to BRAZEN BEAU in the Diamond Jubilee. Then again,he could have been riding to instructions. If not,it Ran 2nd after all,nearly pinched it.
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3blindmice
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It was Williams' decision to head out there on his own in the DJ Red. Travesty beaten.
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Lexawin
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Most overated jockey in Australia... there is a reason why the other jocks call him Windy Williams.
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JimmyUK
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And if he wins Craig is invited for Thanksgiving.
Punters are c$nts. |
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Einstein
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Sunline
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and go.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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scamanda
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I started with nothing and still have most of it left
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Stainvita
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No stewards in Melbourne so Craigy goes on his merry way
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If your hands aren't shaking you haven't put enough on.
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Breeding Above All
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Haha, wow.. this guy is unbelievable
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Stainvita
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Apart from destroying the stud value of every 3 year old he gets on,not sure what Hayes sees in him.
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If your hands aren't shaking you haven't put enough on.
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Shawy38
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I just came here to create a thread..
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3blindmice
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As I've said many times, Williams rides for luck far too often.
Fuhryk looked disappointing late but it's hard to tell what she might have done had she got galloping room early in the straight.
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Shawy38
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I think he must be a secret agent for some heavy hitting betfair punters.
Dodgy as dodgy can be. Scum P O S |
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3blindmice
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He absolutely pulled their pants down in the Memsie. Allowed to get ridiculously slow early sectionals.
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max manewer
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Craig out of the naughty corner now ?
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