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SYT
Champion Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8337 |
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LR80
Champion Joined: 06 Feb 2013 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 9183 |
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The first person who says I'm backing Rebel Dane will permanently banned from the forum.
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Lordy
Champion Joined: 22 May 2010 Location: Sunshine State Status: Offline Points: 13887 |
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Any trainer in Sydney with a half decent 1400m horse should throw in a late entry. So many 2000m+ horses resuming here.
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Delta Deel
Champion Joined: 25 Aug 2015 Status: Offline Points: 8896 |
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Thought so to Lordy, not a bad time to have a shot at the stumps with the mare too, I wasn't convinced with her 2nd trial
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The Gooch
Champion Joined: 03 Sep 2015 Location: Queensland Status: Offline Points: 1242 |
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Not much depth here. Box up Winx, Lucia and Dibayani for a collect.
Dibayani each way might be the play. Great first up run and will be on pace. |
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Kingy
Champion Joined: 14 Oct 2009 Location: Warrnambool Status: Offline Points: 8310 |
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Great to see the champ back in action.
LV or PREFERMENT for 2nd.
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TOLEDO
Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Status: Offline Points: 604 |
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Has preferment ever done anything below 2000m?
I just load up on winx 1st dibayani 2nd rebel dane lucia 3rd/4th First four
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Delta Deel
Champion Joined: 25 Aug 2015 Status: Offline Points: 8896 |
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The Hayes horse is a moral for 2nd and to make her stretch her neck.
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Ammy42
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He's been placed a few times early in his career and ran fourth first-up in the autumn over a mile.
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Dibayani would want to show more ticker than he has to date to be winning anything worthwhile.
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SYT
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Dibayani not running here
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11716 |
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Dibayani was only 1.5L off Winx in the Chipping Norton. Has a run under his belt and the mare is first up after (albeit minor) surgery. Thought she wanted to lay in a touch in her trial too. Couldn't tip against her of course, but he might make a race of it.
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JudgeHolden
Champion Joined: 16 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 11716 |
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Well that's my post knackered then.
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SYT
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not ideal |
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SYT
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Brudder_A
Champion Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Location: Uzhhorod Status: Offline Points: 4220 |
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Upgraded for 2018 to G1 and renamed to Winx Stakes.
... and most probably Winx will run and win her own race! |
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31303 |
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Is anything being downgraded from G1 or can they keep on adding G1s to the list?
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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Marketing gimmick
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furious
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 25067 |
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I seem to remember Black Caviar winning the Black Caviar Lightning Stakes not so long ago.
Always amuses me Tulloch, Phar Lap have a G2 race each. Kingston only got a G3 in Sydney but a G1 was named after he travelled and won it in Perth.
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Jamal
Champion Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8659 |
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Even Bart doesn't have Group 1 race named after him.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Prince of Penzance
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Why should he? |
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maccamax
Champion Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 41473 |
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Didn't they erect a statue of Bart at one of the racecourse entrances.? No doubt in memory of all the "dead uns" he sent to the starting gates. |
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Probably the same reason many other contributers to the sport have had? The second rate race Victoria runs in his name is a slap in the face, but not unexpected given the paucity of racing leadership in that state. Don't believe in naming races after horses (or people) until they retire myself but maybe RNSW was getting in early before the MVRC (yes that's sarcasm). Winx is a champion and actually deserves better than a Warwick Stakes but it does show how the scant regard racing officials have for the past that other champs like Tulloch, Phar Lap etc have "junk" races named after them.
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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Races should be named after horses or trainers after they are dead imo
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Prince of Penzance
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The existing Bart Cummings is suitable race to be named after him. No way in hell should that race be a group 1 though.
I don’t believe Bart was all great a trainer, other than winning Melbourne Cups in the days when they were easy to win, he didn’t really do much else as a trainer. He wasn’t a nice man to his staff either, very rude. Always shouted and looked down on people. |
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Tontonan
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I think The Bart Cummings is a perfectly suitable race for the man. It is rapidly evolving into a principal lead up race to the Melbourne Cup and that is very apt. Given that it has found 2 Sydney Cup winners, a Melbourne and an Adelaide Cup winner in its past 7 editions I reckon the race is proving worthy of its name.
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Revisionism, or ignorance?
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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Yes it's a memorable race no doubt, a potential classic much like the TJSmith.
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StormSiren
Champion Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Location: Canberra Status: Offline Points: 1794 |
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I'm guessing we won't be seeing the 'Warwick' stakes return to Warwick Farm then...
It's a shame, there were three good races that Warwick Farm had, and it seems unlikely any will be returning at this stage... would have thought there were enough at Rosehill and Randwick to allow Warwick Farm 3.. Anyway, rant over...
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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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If Racing Nsw have there way, Warwick farm will be sold to pay off the mortgage at Randwick |
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