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In the aftermath of the 4 Corners program NT's Chief minister said, and I quote: "It looks like there's a culture of cover up which has been going on many a long year". Since then he's been a bit all over the place. Indigenous Affairs Minister Scullion said that despite investigations and front page headlines in preceding years this was the first he's heard of it, as it hadn't "piqued his interest sufficiently". I kid you not.

Such disinterest at the local political level can't have been lost on Turnbull and Brandis, who quite rightly have decided we need to take a much longer, harder look. The previous inquiry found "insufficient evidence" of systematic abuse. Will more "evidence" come to light in the RC? I'll hazard a guess and say almost certainly yes.

It's amazing what some video footage can do, everyone's interest is well and truly "piqued" now. Great work ABC.Clap
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Don't worry Judge....Subby's bound to log in from his palatial resort somewhere in Africa to lend some support. I always look forward to his Travel Diaries !
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We spent some time in Darwin, admittedly 5 years ago but I wouldn't think much has changed in the meantime. We came away from the experience convinced that the major problems for the Aboriginal communities up there are alcoholism , spousal abuse and child neglect. Complete breakdown of the family unit in other words. The young people on the 4 corners show are the direct result of this, Dr E is 100% right about this one.

Ever since I've been intensely irritated by Aboriginal leaders who think the best way to help their people and communities is to scream " racism" at every opportunity and blame it all on whitey. Meanwhile nothing is done about the real problem.

Of course there should be an investigation into the Juvenile Detention practises in the the NT and the bad apples gotten rid of. But the Royal commission I would wholeheartedly support is one into where the millions of Tax payer dollars thrown at Aboriginal communities has gone, what it's spent on and what good it has done. It doesn't seem to have done any good at all for the real problems facing young Aboriginal people .

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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

In the aftermath of the 4 Corners program NT's Chief minister said, and I quote: "It looks like there's a culture of cover up which has been going on many a long year". Since then he's been a bit all over the place. Indigenous Affairs Minister Scullion said that despite investigations and front page headlines in preceding years this was the first he's heard of it, as it hadn't "piqued his interest sufficiently". I kid you not.

Such disinterest at the local political level can't have been lost on Turnbull and Brandis, who quite rightly have decided we need to take a much longer, harder look. The previous inquiry found "insufficient evidence" of systematic abuse. Will more "evidence" come to light in the RC? I'll hazard a guess and say almost certainly yes.

It's amazing what some video footage can do, everyone's interest is well and truly "piqued" now. Great work ABC.Clap

Uh-oh, Senator Scullion seems to have regained his memory just this morning. D'oh!


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Once upon a time the cool trend was to scream and shout about aboriginal deaths in custody.
That seems to have given way to other more trendy pursuits including the latest claims of young aboriginal boys being mistreated in the NT.

http://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2016/04/15/infographics-indigenous-incarceration-australia-glance

According to SBS.com.au , 59% of kids in juvenile detention are indigenous.


We do need to ask why that percentage is so high, and not just say "look the aboriginal kids are being treated worse". ie when is it the parent's responsibility to raise their children to respect the law. Black or white shouldn't even be considered in that regard imo. Remember the teachers fleeing from the threats of aboriginal boys earlier this year?

Also from the same webpage, although aboriginal people are only 2.5% of the overall population they make up 27.4% of the prison population. 

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/1301.0~2012~Main%20Features~Deaths%20in%20custody~73

13.31 DEATHS IN CUSTODY
Police
Prison
Total
Total(a)
Aboriginal
and Torres
Strait Islander
Non-Indigenous
Aboriginal
and Torres
Strait Islander
Non-Indigenous
Aboriginal
and Torres
Strait Islander
Non-Indigenous

1990
5
26
5
28
10
54
65
1991
5
26
8
31
13
57
70
1992
7
24
2
34
9
58
67
1993
3
30
7
42
10
72
83
1994
3
25
11
42
14
67
82
1995
4
22
18
41
22
63
87
1996
6
23
12
40
18
63
82
1997
6
23
9
67
15
90
105
1998
6
21
10
59
16
80
97
1999
6
21
13
46
19
67
86
2000
5
21
11
51
16
72
90
2001
4
31
14
43
18
74
92
2002
11
26
8
42
19
68
87
2003
8
28
10
30
18
58
76
2004
8
23
7
32
15
55
70
2005
8
16
7
27
15
43
58
2006
6
18
4
27
10
45
56
2007
4
25
5
40
9
65
74
2008
4
28
9
45
13
73
86


Yet according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics a higher percentage of deaths in custody are non-indigenous. The figure only go up until 2008 and I'm sure if someone wants to find the latest numbers they will. But I can only find estimates from sources like The Gaurdian who don't actually show any evidence of the exact number.



That's 2,253 per 100,000 indigenous compared to only 146 per 100,000 non-indigenous.

These numbers are looking a lot like the ones being wheeled out in the "Black Lives Matter" fiasco in the US. Only over there the black aren't all taking the same side.

Unless aboriginal leaders start insisting their children go to school and behaving, start cracking down on their own people's crimes, and insist their people start to respect the law of the Australian state/territory they live in, these numbers will never get better. Most young aboriginal boys know they can get away with just about anything these days and that 59% shown above will just increase year by year.

Blaming white people for the demise of aboriginals is wrong. But hey, it's trendy.
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The 2 missing pics are on the SBS website link.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

In the aftermath of the 4 Corners program NT's Chief minister said, and I quote: "It looks like there's a culture of cover up which has been going on many a long year". Since then he's been a bit all over the place. Indigenous Affairs Minister Scullion said that despite investigations and front page headlines in preceding years this was the first he's heard of it, as it hadn't "piqued his interest sufficiently". I kid you not.

Such disinterest at the local political level can't have been lost on Turnbull and Brandis, who quite rightly have decided we need to take a much longer, harder look. The previous inquiry found "insufficient evidence" of systematic abuse. Will more "evidence" come to light in the RC? I'll hazard a guess and say almost certainly yes.

It's amazing what some video footage can do, everyone's interest is well and truly "piqued" now. Great work ABC.Clap

Uh-oh, Senator Scullion seems to have regained his memory just this morning. D'oh!



This guy is just a shocker, but again, there's nothing like some 8 year old, out of context sensationalised left wing current affairs TV program footage, with some well placed, but untrue, and totally inflammatory comment and comparisons to wartime atrocities to "pique" the interest of the naive and gullible socialist snivel libertarians and no-gooders who just want something to be hysterical about, so long as they can ignore the facts!Wink


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"Blaming white people for the demise of aboriginals is wrong. But hey, it's trendy."

Rest easy, scamanda. If the Royal Commission determines a level of culpability it will be attributed to those responsible, not "white people".
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The parents are responsible. Don't need a royal commission for that.
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/is-this-bill-leak-cartoon-in-the-australian-racist-20160804-gqkub9.html?client=ms-android-optus-au

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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

"Blaming white people for the demise of aboriginals is wrong. But hey, it's trendy."

Rest easy, scamanda. If the Royal Commission determines a level of culpability it will be attributed to those responsible, not "white people".
 
   How can they find anyone culpable ?.       Twice to court already and staff cleared.
Some of you people need to see some real " Blood & Guts "   happenings that essential services have to endure .
     eg..        The Death of one and serious wounding of another  Nurse at Bloomfield Psychiatric about 2 yrs ago.            I'm sure you would have cried foul had the ABC let you see that sadness.
    Or       The 2 police Constables wounded before shooting dead a terrorist related assault.
    Or the dirty details of Martin Place and later Parramatta.
 
   Too many of you have your sympathies for the wrong team.
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My 2 cents - my best mate is a (white, lefty, private school educated, ridiculously highly paid) principal in an indigenous school way up north, on an island where the indigenous culture has been preserved supposedly better than anywhere, and I've been up to stay with him a few times on fishing trips etc. What strikes me when I go there (apart from the litter, burned out car wrecks, lack of basic hygiene etc!) is that the aboriginals absolutely fawn over their babies and small children, more than any other culture I've seen IMO, but then when they reach their teens the kids are just let loose to join in the crowd, with loose/ shifting connections to family, tribe etc. It's probably always been that way in that particular culture in that part of oz, and maybe for most indigenous communities in oz through the centuries before europeans settled etc. It's probably a way of doing things that makes sense in a harsh climate - make sure the young are protected until they can fend for themselves etc.
The problems with violence, sex etc (no alcohol allowed on the island) seem to kick in as soon as the kids are turned loose. There is no framework of support any more for these kids, and they move into a kind of vacuous way of living that is never going to lead to good things in a "western civilisation" sense. They have no reason to attend school, and don't bother.
If that kind of thing happens even in a preserved culture on an island, it can only be much worse when mingling with european (or uniquely NT!) culture.
What annoys me about the educational philosophy in my mate's school is that it's ALL about preserving their culture (fair enough), but NOTHING about preparing them for living in a modern world after a certain age. It's a kind of systematic neglect dressed up as something noble. No wonder these kids end up so messed up.
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Yep one kid once summed it up as l don't want to learn possum l'd rather learn English - guess how far he'd get with that Ermm
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Thanks stayer ... great to hear some real insight from somone who has actually seen what is happening. 

As you point out, being a dry community, and primarily indigenous, you would expect them to be "best practice", but the violence is there anyway?

I don't pretend to know anything about the indigenous culture, but I have heard reference to a violent past being exposed by archaeologists.

It does seem that there is no "middle' ground ... they either take to the western culture, or revert to being savages ... sorry, how else do you describe it? ... it is only a short couple of centuries ago that they were one of the most primitive people on earth, and that would not have changed at all without white settlement. 

Anyway, rehashing the actions of these YCS officers will not change a thing.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

"Blaming white people for the demise of aboriginals is wrong. But hey, it's trendy."

Rest easy, scamanda. If the Royal Commission determines a level of culpability it will be attributed to those responsible, not "white people".

Judge, there is about 240 years worth of data available for people who really want to work out what has gone wrong, and who is to blame.

Rehashing an isolated incident that is just a consequence of the problem, and has only been focused upon for political gain, will simply waste more money - the answers will be exactly the same.

What do you think will happen in the time it takes to come to these same conclusions? ... how many more officers will be hospitalised? ... how many more indigenous women will have their heads caved in? ... how many more juvenile rapists will graduate through the system?

Deal with the problem, rather than being sucked in by the ALP propaganda machine, and trying to placate the Eastern Suburbs wowser and la trobe uni academics!
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Originally posted by gogos gogos wrote:

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/national/is-this-bill-leak-cartoon-in-the-australian-racist-20160804-gqkub9.html?client=ms-android-optus-au

Nailed it

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That cartoon is a little bit unrealistic though. 

It's daylight, and Dad is standing up speaking coherently, not asleep under a tree in a pile of empty VB cans ... but the young bloke is so much better off than the "stolen generation" (except for the compo payment he'll miss out on ... better sue Corrective Services then!). Ouch
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Thanks stayer ... great to hear some real insight from somone who has actually seen what is happening. 

As you point out, being a dry community, and primarily indigenous, you would expect them to be "best practice", but the violence is there anyway?

I don't pretend to know anything about the indigenous culture, but I have heard reference to a violent past being exposed by archaeologists.

It does seem that there is no "middle' ground ... they either take to the western culture, or revert to being savages ... sorry, how else do you describe it? ... it is only a short couple of centuries ago that they were one of the most primitive people on earth, and that would not have changed at all without white settlement. 

Anyway, rehashing the actions of these YCS officers will not change a thing.

Well a middle ground might be teaching them that it's actually good to look after their physical and emotional health in certain simple ways... but that's seen as colonialism etc by the whiteys who run the system.
It wouldn't take much - just an introduction of rubbish tips, the marvels of soap and deodorant, the idea that cultures can change and interact over time, that learning some basic maths and english might help just as much in life as learning about where to catch barras etc.
You know, what those invasive colonialists were trying to do years ago...
Small practical steps, that actually benefit the aboriginals more than the whiteys who are trying to keep up the 200 y/o myth of the "noble savage" being better than the corrupt european.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Thanks stayer ... great to hear some real insight from somone who has actually seen what is happening. 

As you point out, being a dry community, and primarily indigenous, you would expect them to be "best practice", but the violence is there anyway?

I don't pretend to know anything about the indigenous culture, but I have heard reference to a violent past being exposed by archaeologists.

It does seem that there is no "middle' ground ... they either take to the western culture, or revert to being savages ... sorry, how else do you describe it? ... it is only a short couple of centuries ago that they were one of the most primitive people on earth, and that would not have changed at all without white settlement. 

Anyway, rehashing the actions of these YCS officers will not change a thing.



unsophisticated, not advanced , basic, living in harmony with the environment., happy, content.

Less than human to you Dr E ?

I think many white civilisations have shown plenty of savagery with thier conquests, rape and pillage, slaughter and brutalisation in their quest for colonisation.

Who is really the savage
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Thanks stayer ... great to hear some real insight from somone who has actually seen what is happening. 

As you point out, being a dry community, and primarily indigenous, you would expect them to be "best practice", but the violence is there anyway?

I don't pretend to know anything about the indigenous culture, but I have heard reference to a violent past being exposed by archaeologists.

It does seem that there is no "middle' ground ... they either take to the western culture, or revert to being savages ... sorry, how else do you describe it? ... it is only a short couple of centuries ago that they were one of the most primitive people on earth, and that would not have changed at all without white settlement. 

Anyway, rehashing the actions of these YCS officers will not change a thing.



unsophisticated, not advanced , basic, living in harmony with the environment., happy, content.

Less than human to you Dr E ?

I think many white civilisations have shown plenty of savagery with thier conquests, rape and pillage, slaughter and brutalisation in their quest for colonisation.

Who is really the savage

Like I said, the myth of the "noble savage." Silly stuff.
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EErr, I did not say they were noble. just said they were living their lives to the best of their ability, in harmony with nature and don't deserve to be called savages




Love the superior attitude
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I mean the actual "noble savage" idea. Google it. It was invented by disillusioned english/french blokes with a superior attitude.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

"Blaming white people for the demise of aboriginals is wrong. But hey, it's trendy."

Rest easy, scamanda. If the Royal Commission determines a level of culpability it will be attributed to those responsible, not "white people".

Really?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/03/activists-gather-at-don-dale-detention-centre-to-demand-release-of-young-boys

Larrakia elder June Mills said Aboriginal people were “not shocked” by the footage.

“We’ve known this, we’ve lived this every day of our lives.”

Mills said she was shocked all the boys were still alive and called for the release of the youths from the Four Corners program. “They’ve been through enough,” she said. “The system is rotten to the core”.

Sounds like a system written by white people she is talking about judge.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/08/01/comment-garma-confronts-ugly-reality-nt-abuse-and-fight-land-rights

It may have been a fairly straightforward Garma festival, in its 18th year, were it not preceded by a week of anguish, anger, and sorrow over the revelations of abuse of young Aboriginal boys in the Northern Territory’s youth justice system. Hundreds of kilometres from those institutions of trauma, the pain was just as real for the Indigenous people at Garma.

Aboriginal people tried to tell us but we didn’t listen, Opposition leader Bill Shorten rued.

Seems straight forward there too judge.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/youth-detention-abuse-we-were-left-in-there-for-weeks-to-rot-20160730-gqharu.html

Youth detention abuse: 'We were left in there for weeks to rot'

Brisbane man Jandamarra Cadd spent two years as a teenager inside one of Queensland's most notorious youth detention centres and he today wants everyone to know it.

Maybe if we knew why you were there for two years it would make more sense?

Jandamarra Cadd at Brisbanes King George Square during Saturdays call to extend a Royal Commission in the Northern ...

Huge rally in King George Square over abuse of Aboriginal people, particularly children in custody.

"Twenty seven years ago, I took off from home because I was a very angry young man," he told a crowd of about 1000 in Brisbane's King George Square.

He spent time on the streets of East Brisbane as a fairly wild 14- and 15-year-old youth.

"We used to get beaten quite regularly and when we fought back against the police we were charged with assault," he said.

White police I suppose judge?

"Shame on you governments for putting our kids through this."

Was that a government lead by white people judge?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/30/nt-juvenile-detention-centre-treatment-snap-protests-called-across-australia

'A national disgrace': protests held across Australia over NT juvenile detention centre abuses

This from July 29th. Years after any alleged offences.
Even though the guard who was taken before the courts was not found guilty.

They are coming out of the woodwork. Aboriginals and leftist apologists who want to appear to be of higher moral fibre but are in fact throwing fuel on the fire.

The finger of blame should be pointed directly at the parents of the children and the elders who allowed their people to fall down so badly.
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I think you're projecting there, scamanda. And more than just a little. For those who seem to have trouble walking and chewing gum at the same time (and there seem to be a few on here), there is the issue of the state of some indigenous communities, and the notion that this needs addressing, primarily from within.

And then there is the issue that children (be they black, white or brindle) should not be subjected to institutionalised abuse, if that's what in fact did occur, and what the RC will seek to determine.

These positions are not mutually exclusive.


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Dr e you would have fitted in really well during the white australia policy. 
You are embarrasing. 
How do you feel about South Africa? They still have servants there, probably both colours!
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Dr e you would have fitted in really well during the white australia policy. 
You are embarrasing. 
How do you feel about South Africa? They still have servants there, probably both colours!
On the contrary.....to think the good Dr used to spend all his time arguing the toss with those toffee nosed racing types up north of the site.....absolute surprise packet imo. Calls a spade a shovel.....brilliant !
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It is said Australia is not racist, maybe not compared to some countries but plenty of Australians are racist.   If you go by this place , a majority, what a disgusting lot Ouch
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Everyone has a little bit of racism in them Whale.....anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves !
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Dr e you would have fitted in really well during the white australia policy. 
You are embarrasing. 
How do you feel about South Africa? They still have servants there, probably both colours!

What is embarrassing is your total disregard for the facts.  

Seriously, do you, Whale and Judge just post in this thread to exercise your fingers?

None of you seem to be able to exercise anything above the neck ... no concept of the reality of the issues here, just seem to post something that is at odds with everything that is coming out on this subject ...Ermm

Try actually reading something that you didn't post, and attempt to comprehend it objectively ... I try to do that, as difficult as it is with your hysterical responses to anything that isn't in total agreement with the socialist left wingnut playbook.Dead
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

It is said Australia is not racist, maybe not compared to some countries but plenty of Australians are racist.   If you go by this place , a majority, what a disgusting lot Ouch

Just who are the racists Whale?

Just in case you are incapable of distinguishing, when someone doesn't agree with your out of touch opinions, and offers an honest and realistic position, it doesn't make it racist, as much as that approach helps the intellectually challenged to rationalise things.



PS: I would rather have a conversation with a racist, than an obtuse, ignorant, naive, gullible bigot. Still waiting on that weather report from Broome too?Wink

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isaac, you must find yourself shocked to discover that though you were arguing strongly for a Coalition government just a few weeks ago in this very forum, that you're now "in total agreement with the socialist left wingnut playbook".

I'd argue that it shows you are capable of thinking other than in rigid straight line.

Get some sleep, Doc. Get something...
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