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Aurelius
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Beliskner
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We don't do the whole National Hunt thing out here, so when you put that in with other racing too you can kind of see where people might get that idea, but out here staying is definitely considered 2000m+
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Carioca
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James Packers ,Frank paid 6000guineas for the Pinza-Method Colt at the Sydney Easter Sale in1956. Topped the sale Pinza English Derby winner .The foal came in Uturo. (If that's the right word) I know I saw him ,sadly lacked talent, father Kerry owned good horse Foresight won many, he was by Wilkes..FR .
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Morston
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Indeed....and that is where I live now...20 minutes from Newmarket The St Leger is the final classic of the season for 3yo. I have never heard the Derby (2400m) referred to as a 'staying' race There are quite a few 2yo races run at 2000 m (mile and 2 furlongs) towards the end of the season. A mile and a half race (2400m) is considered middle distance. |
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Meant to say that a mile and a half is considered middle distance regardless of it's official designation. |
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Morston
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Here is just one example where a mile and a half is considered middle distance https://www.ascot.co.uk/History-King-George |
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May have been wrong about the 2200m black type Japan race.
Kyoto - Nov 26th - 2000m Group 3 Nakayama - Dec 25th - 2000m Group 2 Saint-Cloud - Late Nov - 2000m Group 1 - Criterium de Saint-Cloud Newmarket - October - 2000m Listed - Zetland Stakes England - 2 2000m Maidens and 1 2000m Nursery |
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Getting back to Francesca's brother...
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Gay3
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Matt Cumani and Show A Star (Image: Racing Photos) Matt Cumani puts on a city ShowLuke Sheehan@LukeDSheehan 3:17pm The Matt Cumani ball is well and truly rolling in Victoria, the Ballarat-based trainer getting his first metro winner with Show A Star at Caulfield. The ex-Gai Waterhouse-trained galloper has had two starts for Cumani, 35, and after threatening to be his first overall winner first-up at Geelong in April, Show A Star became his third when honouring $5 favouritism in the Peter Jackson Handicap (1400m). Cumani said he couldn't believe he was already a winning trainer in metro company - coming just 44 days after having his first runner on April 1. "I thought it might take me a little longer to get a Saturday winner at Caulfield, but I'll take it," Cumani said. "I feel silly saying it hasn't sunk in, I'm not an Olympic athlete or anything like that, but for me, it's a big milestone. "I hope they [metro winners] will be common in the future, but for now, it feels like a huge step from where I have been a few days ago, a few weeks ago and six months ago."
Cumani, who has 12 boxes at his disposal but will have 40 by year’s end with more being built at Ballarat, paid due credit to Jordan Childs for his winning ride. Childs has three rides for two wins aboard the four-year-old gelding, also winning for Waterhouse on Ballarat Cup Day. Cumani said Childs' decision to take a sit behind the leaders vindicated his pre-race thoughts. "Jordan rode a beautiful race, as I was desperate to see what he'd do in behind," the son of legendary trainer Luca said. "I said if you can't get the lead, don't panic, he'll settle I'm sure. "At home, he settles in gallops. "He got him going nice and early, and he was gutsy right to the line." Childs' only non-winning ride on the horse was in a 2040m race at Moonee Valley - the last run under Waterhouse - and Cumani said Gai advised him her belief now that the mile was his best trip. That option looks to be the next step in Show A Star's progression. And for Cumani, he has gone from getting his training licence at Christmas, to his first runner on April 1, to his first city winner 44 days later. Talk about fast tracks, Cumani's training career has been on one. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Cumani said Childs' decision to take a sit behind the leaders vindicated his pre-race thoughts.
"Jordan rode a beautiful race, as I was desperate to see what he'd do in behind," the son of legendary trainer Luca said. "I said if you can't get the lead, don't panic, he'll settle I'm sure. "At home, he settles in gallops. Wow, not only got one of her escapees to settle, but also to win without leading ... is that even possible? ... AND he only charges 10%, AND he pays for his own airline tickets ... unheard of!!! |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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djebel
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Staying racing in Australia is anything beyond 1400m. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Magnolian Khan
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No it isn't. Staying in Aus is 2000+
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Beliskner
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Not only is their no national hunt, our hurdling side has diminished more and more, and we're now seeing these import stayers who don't measure up on the flat going over them, which in the short term is probably going to stabilize the hurdling industry.
I haven't heard much about the protestors this year, are they still being as much of a nuisance as they always are? |
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Gay3
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They're alive & kicking on FB along with their normal non factual rants e.g. pic of Bashboy supposedly depicting Tuscan Falls
Also making good use of their new whizz bang ultra long lensed camera to get footage from off course. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Beliskner
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More horses die in top notch stud farm paddocks then over hurdles, these guys are loonies, why don't they go harass the RSPCA about doing their job properly.
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Gee Gee
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he's had more wins that Gai |
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linghi11
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Great to be born into money... Victorian taxpayer Ballarat club build you a $1.25M training complex. What a turn out
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to the victor
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3blindmice
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Gay3
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Business is about making money & only a couple of years ago, the BTC was a long way in the red. I've no idea how this is progressing but the more trainers they can attract, the better their book balance & with strong competition from Pakenham & Cranbourne, every effort needs to be made, silver spoon or otherwise.
The media love DKW & now have Cumani to fawn over as long as winners continue to flow so I imagine building more boxes to be money well spent. As an aside, I saw the blueprint for these stables & more, many years ago. |
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Beliskner
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And his a young trainer, from overseas, which gives him an appeal and decent potential to grow his stable numbers, especially if he proves a decent trainer with stayers and imports.
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Bi Carb
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I nearly f**king vomited when I read this Dead set , you have to be a cheat or 'in the club' to kick on in Vic.
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linghi11
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I'm all for building more stables - everywhere and for everyone - I'm sure there's plenty of young local trainers who would have appreciated a tenth of this opportunity. Media would fawn over anything remotely related to Francesca even if it trained out of the standard stables that everyone else has to use!
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djebel
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So what exactly is involved in this training complex ? Have they learnt anything from Japanese and European training complexes ? What sort of tracks do they have ?
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reductio ad absurdum
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djebel
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Stables ? Is that what this is about ? I doubt it makes too much difference to the horses if they are air conditioned 7 star stables if the training tracks are the same stupid garbage we see at all the other training centres around this Nation. |
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3blindmice
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On what basis does a government - esp a Labor govt - and a racing club provide funds for infrastructure for the exclusive use of "one" person/business?
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I would have thought that the MRC as the most progressive club in AUS would have tied him up.
Clever move by Ballarat - will make the money back but must feel for other trainers.
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Are you certain what you're maintaining is correct 3bm?
You may well be correct, however my understanding is that the design overlay for the new stabling complex provides for multi-trainer use.
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Carioca
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If the tracks training wise are that bad why are o/s trainers coming here .sh$thouse stake money where they were , or is it stability.
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