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Second Chance
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What a strange comment Mowie.The horse was primed by the trainer and a tragedy beaten.
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3blindmice
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You missed the late riding change SC. Shinn off, Waller on.
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Gay3
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Fav Kensington Palace was equally tragic in the same race
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Shrunk in the Wash
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One of those instances you'd love to know what the new trainer has done differently to the previous |
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AdaHunta
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The fence was a Death Sentence for most of the day
I feel for anyone who backed him Agreee with Sunline he should of won by 3 at least
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Aurelius
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Just Loses.
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3blindmice
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Absolutely no fault of the horse (or the trainer - post of the year that one ) yesterday Aurelius.
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3blindmice
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Race 7 – CANTERBURY HURLSTONE PARK RSL CLUB SPRING PREVIEW (1400m)
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Tlazolteotl
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Two certainties beaten in the one race.
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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Sir Gov
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Sunline
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Not a fan of winning. Gets one more chance in the Epsom - will be better at a mile at Randwick - but he has worn everyone out by now.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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Shawy38
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Never understood this horse.
Looks like a beast, but runs like a fairy |
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VOYAGER
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I am serious here, do not jump off before the Epsom, do what Sunline said give him one more chance in a strong run Randwick Mile with not as much weight.
I know it is hard but butter up just one more time! It is easy for me to say because I have never backed him, but if you do not back him to win the Epsom at least back him to place! And no, I do not work for a bookmaker or corporate!!!!! |
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Sunline
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I'm already on so no chance of me changing my mind. I've had more on Egg Tart and Happy Clapper in singles and doubles though. But I do say it's his last chance.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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mowie
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give him to the freeman yard would be 3 from 3 this prep wasted in the waller yard.
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chris Armstrong waller, *drugs are bad mkay
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Breeding Above All
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On my never again list.. always unders and is a non winner
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Lord Hybrow
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Well another great run by Tom today.....but another runners up cheque.
Wonder where he goes next? Does he stay in Sydney for the 2000m Craven Plate? Rich race and not sure the competition will be all that great. Or head to Melb for something like the 2000m Coongy Hcp? |
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Magnolian Khan
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Caulfield Stakes 2000m Group 1 might be an option
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djebel
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Pretty sure Chris Waller is going to keep him to a mile and I agree with him. He has gone an absolute bomb with Waller.
I reckon the Toorak will be next on the agenda or a freshen up and aimed the mile handicap at the Cup Carnival. Waller has clearly decided he is too free going to send out beyond a mile. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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3blindmice
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Apologies to GBoss for my comment elsewhere about a Boss special in the Epsom. Watching the replay he was held up by Snitzon rounding the turn then copped a check in the straight when he took him wider looking for a run. Without both of those gets very close.
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VOYAGER
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I hope those who have backed him backed him for the place again yesterday.
He paid $2.20 for the place and the winner paid $2.4 for the win, so there was good value there. If he is a miler, then I could see him being freshened and aiming at the Cantala and then even onto Perth for the group 1 double. |
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Nick
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This horse loves running second!
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3blindmice
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Certainty beaten first up - pilot error. Had a tough run 3 wide when Happy Clapper beat him next time and possibly missed another win yesterday through bad luck. Reverse the runs in both HC races and he wins at least one of them. In between (3rd consecutive run at 1400m) he gave his stablemate 4kgs and went down a shirt head. Horse is going VERY well, just needs better steering and luck.
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Speediskey
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Well I mean last start he got 5kgs off Hally Clapper as well, only thing that let him get that close.
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Second Chance
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He does appear to have dagged it at the finish on more than one occasion, even if he didn't on Saturday.
That aside, here's my spin on him which goes back to his win 18 months ago in the 2000m Albury Cup where he led by up to 10 lengths before trying to run over the rail but still won by 3. Hasn't been asked to lead since then from memory, so why not try doing so again to avoid what sometimes appears to be a disinclination to totally compete with horses around him? Over to others with possibly more cred than me. |
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Shawy38
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I’d like to see him let rip over 2000m , especially if the field lacks pace.
Having someone like McEvoy on him would also suit |
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Sunline
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Led at 5 of his next 7 starts after Albury - in the other 2 he settled 2nd. Ran a great race to finish 2nd to Oceanographer in the Lexus after leading. I can't knock Waller for settling with cover on the horse. Although he was settling off the speed in the prep prior when still with Freedman and looked to be finished horse. But Waller has got him back and competitive. Must admit I had a hunch they'd go forward with him in the Epsom given it was Grand Final Day and he had drawn poorly. If I owned him I'd be keeping that option open as I don't think he wants to run past a leader at the moment. Irrespective, he's a very good horse.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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todddragon
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I'm in shock. Fraud rode a metro winner recently? Strike me pink... |
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Shawy38
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Coming to Melbourne for the Toorak
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