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AdaHunta
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jacko1
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Those were very weak G1 races, including one he was hot favourite and won by a lip. No offense if you're a fan of the horse, I just think he's struggling to recapture his best.
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Balciano
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Fair enough mate.
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3blindmice
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Doubt it was as weak as you think DD and today's run was understandably nowhere near that level. The WA sprinters showed they were close to Malaguerra, Takedown, Shiedel, Terravista in Perth. He had 59kgs, was first up - check that stat some time, ridden too close, finished 2+ lengths back in good time, was best of the topweights by a margin. He won the Goodwood last year at his fourth run from a spell. All the above, plus Weir's reservations about today suggest to me that predictions of BHB's sudden demise are premature.
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Lordy
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I said earlier he was 2nd up on a 7 day back up plus travel between Adelaide, Melbourne, Brisbane. That's a tough ask on any horse and he obviously didn't cope.
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Gay3
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Did you have a shekel on the stable roughie Lordy?
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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slowdown
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Rebel - racing. Lionel - in work. Glory - spelling. Ray - spelling. A Wee Nip - in work.
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Delta Deel
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No one said he was no good, I just don't think he has the class this prep to be winning at less than 1400m at WFA. Wouldn't be racing in to back him atvless than $10.00 in the straddie as well. Horse is 6yo about to turn 7, he is closer to the end of career than the start and some dip in performance especially at these trips is to be expected. Plenty of races for him in the spring with the stupid prizemoney for barrier trials like the Memsie and the Makybe Diva. Memsie/Makybe/Underwood/Cantala perfect prep. |
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Lordy
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Had a bit each way |
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Gay3
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Shawy38
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Punters beware, might not be ready to win today
Being set to fire in the $1 million Memsie and Makybe Diva |
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JudgeHolden
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Agree. Better on a firmer surface too. |
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Magnolian Khan
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Black Heart Bart - laid out rounding the home turn and in the straight.. Beaten favourite; a post race veterinary examination revealed the gelding to me mildly lame in the near hind leg and will require a veterinary clearance prior to racing again..
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Gay3
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Raceday inspection for Black Heart BartAndre Eddy@fastisheddy Defending Memsie Stakes' champion Black Heart Bart will be inspected when he arrives on course at Caulfield on Saturday after an application was made to stewards on Friday for the horse to wear a three-quarter bar plate on his near-fore hoof. Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey said stewards would be negligent not to examine the Darren Weir-trained horse, which is among the favourites for the first $1 million Memsie. "Given the stable had the need to make the shoeing change, we'd want to check him over to make sure he's 100 per cent," Bailey said on Friday morning. Racing Victoria vets reported that Black Heart Bart pulled up mildly lame in his near hind leg following his first-up run in the Lawrence Stakes two weeks ago at Caulfield. Bailey said the application for a change of shoeing for Black Heart Bart came on the recommendation of the stable farrier. A three-quarter bar plate is designed to relieve pressure on a certain area of the hoof. Black Heart Bart was holding his place at equal-second favourite at $6.50 along with Le Romain for the Memsie Stakes. The Lindsay Park-trained Vega Magic is a firming favourite at $2.40. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Lexawin
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The beginning of the end... can't keep going forever.
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Gay3
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So many of these top horses seem to have a month or '2 let up' which in reality means they never get 6 - 8wks in the paddock for their bodies to fully heal from exertions.
A week - 10 days in a small paddock or yard followed by weeks on a water walker then back to full work isn't helpful in extending their careers, imo but then I'm no expert trainer. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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tillyras
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I would think Weir would know what he was doing with him. If he has had enough then he will not hesitate to pull him up.
I do agree with you Gay re the spelling. Horses never get much break these days, the turn around from Spring to Autumn, and then if they go to Adelaidenor QLD, next thing you kno it's July. Maybe that's something for the head honchos to have a look at in future. We need an extra month! |
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BlackKnight
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Agree Gay, but it just means owners and trainers have to prioritise. Of course not everyone can afford to be as singularly focussed as Lloyd but the way he pretty much ignores every major carnival outside Victoria means that his better horses do get a decent break.
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Carioca
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I would say there are at least 25 to 30 black type that have been added over the years that have extended each carnival , your right Tilly we need a longer year.
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Bonfield
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The bar plate worries me. Not a lot of horses with bar plates win. I have no stats. Just an observation.
I think Bart deserves another chance before we sack him. He's been such an honest galloper throughout his career. It might just have been fitness and the slightly wet track first up. But Gay you are right. Many times a racehorse only gets 1-2 weeks in the paddock. Hardly seems enough.
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Sunline
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Love this old boy and he has been good to me, but I've been off him the last couple and I've unfortunately got him down as over the hill. I don't think he'll be able to keep up with Vega Magic again.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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SHOVHOG
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I tend to agree sunline but this is his grand final if that means anything.
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" In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Bonfield
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I think there is a very real risk Bart hasn't come up this prep. He may need a decent spell or even retirement. His first up run this prep was poor, as was his first up run in the Goodwood. His run at Eagle Farm though can be forgiven due to the heavy track.
I'm only giving him another chance because he's $7.00. I have Vega Magic rated on top of him. A repeat of their last starts sees Vega Magic winning easily. However Bart's too good a horse to dismiss lightly. I won't be surprised if he wins.
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SHOVHOG
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Had an accident in the box Wednesday with some bruising and has bar plates on. Weir isn't giving him much hope and will be inspected by vets at the races. If it runs will probably be out the gate betting wise,double figures I would suggest.
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" In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Gay3
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I hadn't realised untill the interview this morning that the bar shoe is on a front foot whilst the soreness post last race was a hind leg.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Sunline
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Yes I definitely noticed it, but didn't know it was due to an accident - cheers Shovhog, very helpful.
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Sunline...simply supreme
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tillyras
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Played up in his box at night apparently.
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Bonfield
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Not good.
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Magnolian Khan
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Might be looking for a nursing home. Too old, too slow
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Magnolian Khan
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Lost a shoe on his bad foot, poor horse.
Retirement looms surely |
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