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Typical narcissist, always somebody elses fault.


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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

I bet Jamal claims him as a WA trainer now LOL


Let me save Jamal the effort.

"How good is it to see a WA horse winning a G1 over east!!!!!!!! He joins the likes of Delicacy, Buffering (raced in WA twice) Dunaden (flew over WA on his way to Melbourne) and Winx (has a W in her name like WA) as WA group 1 winners... WA! HOW GOOD IS WA! I'm from WA!

The horse has had 30 starts, 26(86%) of them in WA. He left WA to chase greater riches and, yes, he has benefited from the Weir polish but he's still a WA horse. 
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My post was just a tongue in cheek dig at Jamals rush to claim anything and everything as a Western Australian...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Jamal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2016 at 7:38pm
Interesting reading all these posts about me, seems im popular :-) Good to see BBB get a Group 1 win.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Love your passion Jamal.  Thumbs Up
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Yeah Jamal don't take any of the comments from the peanut gallery to heart, I like reading your posts. Nothing wrong with finding a connection with horses.
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Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

Yeah Jamal don't take any of the comments from the peanut gallery to heart, I like reading your posts. Nothing wrong with finding a connection with horses.



Well the thing is - I only speak about facts. They are from WA, either bred and/or trained. Simple as that.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Hi Jamal.......why dont you have a go in the "pick a stable" comp? Ive picked 99% WA as i know what im looking at, and the trainers and funnily enough, WA has a top ten 1st season sire [Rogano] and three in the 2nd season top twenty [War Chant, Alfred Nobel and Demerit].
 WA could be punching above its weightWink
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Originally posted by therealkramer therealkramer wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

I bet Jamal claims him as a WA trainer now LOL


Let me save Jamal the effort.

"How good is it to see a WA horse winning a G1 over east!!!!!!!! He joins the likes of Delicacy, Buffering (raced in WA twice) Dunaden (flew over WA on his way to Melbourne) and Winx (has a W in her name like WA) as WA group 1 winners... WA! HOW GOOD IS WA! I'm from WA!

The horse has had 30 starts, 26(86%) of them in WA. He left WA to chase greater riches and, yes, he has benefited from the Weir polish but he's still a WA horse. 

Actually I told a lie(unintentionally). BHB raced in the Goodwood & Stradbroke last year so he's raced 24/30(80%) times in WA.
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Probably win the Straddie as well, now that he's emigrated and cut all ties with WA ... it certainly improves them!Wink
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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That ride won him the race... Brad was very patient and timed it perfectly. 

Will no doubt get top weight in Stradbroke now... can he do it again?
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Originally posted by SYT SYT wrote:

That ride won him the race... Brad was very patient and timed it perfectly. 

Will no doubt get top weight in Stradbroke now... can he do it again?


Straddie will be much stronger won't it?
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Black Heart Bart shows his class in maiden Group One Goodwood win

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Brad Rawiller riding Black Heart Bart to win Race 7, the Victoria Handicap at Caulfield Racecourse on March 26.

Brad Rawiller riding Black Heart Bart to win Race 7, the Victoria Handicap at Caulfield Racecourse on March 26. Photo: Getty Images

The former Perth galloper Black Heart Bart, now prepared by Victorian champion trainer Darren Weir, has yet to do enough to prove himself a champion.

But if he ever does go on to build on his Group One success in Adelaide's Goodwood, he will have one of the hallmarks that many of the old time greats displayed – the ability to carry weight, and versatility.

The gelding's success in the 1200 metre Goodwood was his first at the highest level following second placings earlier this autumn in the Group One Newmarket Handicap at Flemington down the "straight six" 1200-metre course, and the Group One All Aged Stakes in Sydney over 1400 metres.

In his only other run for the Weir camp he had scored lumping 58.5 kilos to victory in the 1400-metre Victoria Handicap at Caulfield.

On that form he looks every inch a sprinter. Yet in his last start in West Australia before moving east he had made most of the running in the 2100-metre CB Cox Stakes at Ascot, only being beaten home by the top class staying mare Delicacy.

No wonder Weir said after the race that distances didn't seem to matter to this horse.

Dwayne Dunn, runner up on the Robert Smerdon trained Under the Louvre, said after the race that Black Heart Bart was a "serious" horse, the kind that could win one of the toughest mile races on the calendar, the $1million Emirates Stakes during the Melbourne Cup carnival next spring.

That will have to wait, as Black Heart Bart, given a terrific ground saving ride by Brad Rawiller, will now head interstate once again, this time to Queensland, where the $1.5 million Stradbroke Handicap will be his target in three weeks' time.

"All his runs in Melbourne were terrific. His form before he came over to us was terrific, and thank God he's held it, it's great to see a horse like this win a Group One," said Weir.

"He's a good class horse, he gallops at home like you would expect him to, he gallops like a real good horse," said the trainer after sending out his third winner of the afternoon at Morphettville.

"He's a big gangly bugger, you would think he would be better over a trip. But he's just the perfect horse to train, he eats well, works well, he's very sound, he's a good race horse and they are hard to find."

Weir said his campaign had been spaced to hit the heights in the Stradbroke.

"The plan all along was to come here here and then just the space between runs has been terrific."

Weir paid tribute to Rawiller's ride from an inside gate on a horse that does not need to hit the front too early.

"It was not ideal when he was back there, that was going to be the problem.

"But what a great ride, he weaved through it and once he got that clear run at the top of the straight you knew he was always going to be strong though the line, you just hoped they didn't have momentum on the outside, but the gap opened enough so he was at his top and going."

Rawiller said: "It was an outstanding win, and well deserved for him because he has not put in a bad race this time in, he's been a little bit stiff.

"You just could not have a more deserved Group 1 for a horse. He's in great form and it's a credit to Darren Weir.

"When the split came, he just went bang pretty quick. I was more worried about him getting there too soon, because he's a horse that does float a little bit when the job's done. It's not that he doesn't try, but in a Group 1 you can't put up the white flag because there's always something coming.

"He cannot have done any more than what he has done. His run in the Newmarket was unbelievable and he was stiff in the All Aged. Even in the Newmarket, The Quarterback was the bottom weight – and that was a little bit of the case of getting there too soon.


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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Probably win the Straddie as well, now that he's emigrated and cut all ties with WA ... it certainly improves them!Wink

Actually his run in the Railway was probably the sign of bigger things to come. He had no right to finish as well as he did for 4th. He was topweight(58kg) over a distance he had never won and got back in a slowly run race which was biased towards front runners and he conceded 5kg to the winner.
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That's an awful story. Like it was written in the 1940s... and badly.
That will have to wait, as Black Heart Bart, given a terrific ground saving ride by Brad Rawiller, will now head interstate once again, this time to Queensland, where the $1.5 million Stradbroke Handicap will be his target in three weeks' time.
 
Seriously? Doesn't The Age have a racing journo?
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Such an honest horse
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3.5kg swing in the weights told the story, the winner ran second in the Goodwood, BHB won the Goodwood and then gets a penalty. The runner up gets no penalty and has a nice weight in the Stradbroke. Then today the runner up in the Goodwood wins the Stradbroke and the winner of the Goodwood finishes second in the Stradbroke. In hindsight BHB should never have won the Goodwood.
Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Am amazed he's stayed up for this long .... ours is not to wonder why  Wink 
 
 
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Losing a close finish to UTL. Cannot believe he lost a slugging finish over 1400 to UTL.......
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Couldn't agree more, sub. Even with the weight pull, he is a superior horse, stronger at the end of 1400m, and far more genuine in a close finish!
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He was very brave yesterday. Lost a few G1s by under 0.5L!
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Will be ridden closer today
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Will be winning today.
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Another Group 1 for WA, well done BHB, good win
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Another Group 1 for Vic well done BHB, good win
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