Hartnell

Soft 6, think Hartnell can beat Bart here.

Was pretty impressive against a bunch of stayers resuming

That was the easiest money any of us will win this year.

No Winx to deal with and he beats the 5 times Grp 1 winner BHB with ease over BHB's preferred distance at his favourite track.

Cooked? Well done I'd say.

I started with nothing and still have most of it left

scamanda wrote:

That was the easiest money any of us will win this year.

No Winx to deal with and he beats the 5 times Grp 1 winner BHB with ease over BHB's preferred distance at his favourite track.

Cooked? Well done I'd say.

TRainers comments from the other day rang true, BHB being set for the Memsie

You could throw away your BHB tickets afrer ten strides with Hartnell in second place one off fence.

Charmed Harmony ran second today, he's a truly grand competitor.

But now an 8yo who's never won or placed at Gp 1 level, his 2nd todaywas his first placing at Gp 2 level, and has a win and two 2nds at Gp3 level. All up 12 starts in Gp races for one win and three placings.

Which imo puts Hartnell's (easy) win in some perspective, particularly given BHB appeared very big in the yard.

That said Hartnell should win his share this Spring.

Jockey Craig Williams has been slapped with a $2000 fine after loading Hartnell with more weight than he needed to carry in his P B Lawrence Stakes win at Caulfield.

Williams realised when he got to the barriers he was wearing a lighter vest than the one he weighed out in and picked out some tools from a nearby farrier's bag and put them in his boots.

Williams told stewards he panicked when he realised he was riding Hartnell in the lighter vest.

"I realised behind the gates that I had the light vest on and I panicked," Williams said.

"My first thought was the horse would be disqualified. I had to make up the weight."

Williams weighed out for the Group Two race at 60.1kg but weighed in at 61.3kg.

He had weighed out to ride Hartnell in the heavier vest but before going out to ride him he had also weighed out for the following race in the lighter vest.

Williams went to the farrier's bag and took out a set of clinching tongs and a buffer and put them in his boots.

Chief steward Terry Bailey said the panel had difficulty finding a precedent and the matter would have been worse had Hartnell been beaten a narrow margin.

"It's an unfortunate situation but it could have been worse."

Williams was fined for $1000 for altering equipment without stewards permission and another $1000 for weighing in more than a half-kilogram above his allocated weight

AAP

Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know

That's cheating.
Disqualified for sure

Someone should start a Winx vs Hartnell spring 2017 thread.....

Sunline wrote:

Wow!

Good one before the race too

Winx may have been lucky he went to Caulfield.

djebel wrote:

Hartnell nearly always looks outstanding when he is not racing Winx.

What horse looks outstanding racing Winx ? Answer, Winx's Shadow, especially when the sun is behind them.

Tlazolteotl wrote:

The Makybe Diva is the ideal second up race for Hartnell but the Makybe Diva is 4 weeks away which is not ideal. Confused

It is absolutely perfect.

reductio ad absurdum

djebel wrote:

Tlazolteotl wrote:

The Makybe Diva is the ideal second up race for Hartnell but the Makybe Diva is 4 weeks away which is not ideal. Confused

It is absolutely perfect.

Computer says no.

Is there any explanation as to why Hartnell got different weights in the Caulfield and Melb Cups? 58kg at Caulfield and 57.5kg at Flemington.

At a quick glance it seems every other horse entered for both Cups got the same weight in each.

Maybe something to do with minimum top weights??

Every year there are horse with different weights for the 2 races.

reductio ad absurdum