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I fear we're getting into territory that is exciting bondy... :facepalm:
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Absolutely, was thinking the same. A legitimate excuse to post photos of young women.....
Creepy....
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Why the Prince Andrew accusations are surfacing now

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Prince Andrew sex charge victim named

Buckingham Palace steps up its denial that Prince Andrew had sex with an underage girl and names the victim which the UK press say had wanted to remain anonymous.

Why are these allegations happening now?

A court filing in a civil case in Florida last week included new allegations against American businessman Jeffrey Epstein, who has previously pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution, as well as Prince Andrew and high-flying American lawyer Alan Dershowitz.

Wall Street financier Jeffrey Epstein, a known friend of the prince, was convicted in 2008.

Wall Street financier Jeffrey Epstein, a known friend of the prince, was convicted in 2008. Photo: Gregory P. Mango

Is the case being brought against Prince Andrew?

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No, the motion was filed as part of a civil case involving Epstein, who was sentenced to 18 months' prison in 2008 for child sexual abuse, and paid compensation to 34 victims.

If Epstein was already convicted, why is there another trial?

Britains Prince Andrew speaking in Beijing in October.

Britain's Prince Andrew speaking in Beijing in October. Photo: Reuters

Four of Epstein's victims are taking legal action against the US authorities, claiming their victims' rights were violated when Florida prosecutors cut a plea deal with Epstein without consulting his victims.

As part of that legal action, which has already gone on for seven years, the women have demanded access to documents which, they claim, will show that Epstein's powerful friends, including Prince Andrew, lobbied the US government on his behalf.

The lawyers for two alleged victims have argued that the rights of the women were violated during the negotiation of Epstein's plea deal. The motion requests to add two more alleged victims to the case, including the woman, identified as "Jane Doe No.3", who said she had sexual relations with Prince Andrew and Professor Dershowitz when she was underage.

Elsewhere, Jane Doe No.3 has been identified as Virginia Roberts, the woman whose claims about Prince Andrew's dealings with Epstein in 2011 triggered the royal's resignation from a trade-related post in the UK.

Also, the US Attorney who agreed to the plea deal with Epstein now appears to believe it was too lenient.

Alexander Acosta wrote a letter in 2011 in which he said: "Some may feel that the prosecution should have been tougher. Evidence has come to light since 2007 which may encourage that view. 

"Had these additional statements and evidence been known, the outcome may have been different." 

What is the woman claiming?

That she had sexual relations as a minor with Prince Andrew in London, New York and on Epstein's private island in the Virgin Islands. Epstein told the woman to give the prince "whatever he demanded" and "report back to him on the details", the motion said.

Who is Epstein?

He is a Wall Street financier with ties to education, having worked in both industries. His early career was spent teaching calculus, before he became an options trader, and then began his own financial management firm to serve billionaires. 

Are people taking the claims against Prince Andrew seriously?

Buckingham Palace has already issued two denials, saying: "It is emphatically denied that the Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with [the woman].

"The allegations made are false and without any foundation."

The statements are unusual because the palace typically refrains from commenting on most media reports.

Why else are people watching closely?

Prince Andrew's relationship with Epstein is well known and has been a source of controversy. In 2011, he stepped down as Britain's roving trade ambassador after his links to Epstein prompted calls for him to quit.

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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Absolutely, was thinking the same. A legitimate excuse to post photos of young women.....
Creepy....

 that makes three of us...Confused


 this is a really sordid story with far-reaching consequences...a well-known Prime Minister?  (hmmm...could it be?)...an ex President?(shall we hazard a guess?)...and a Prince...

 about time all this stuff came well out in the public domain...

 sick, sick, sick...

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'Andrew is a great man, the best in the world': Fergie comes out fighting for her prince on slopes as she says York family 'is a tight unit' and will back duke to the hilt over claims he slept with 'underage sex slave'

  • Duke of York is back in mansion home in Windsor after ski holiday in Alps
  • He is believed to have held crisis talks with the Queen over sex scandal
  • Aide says the prince will 'move on' and attend Davos summit this month
  • Ex-wife Sarah Ferguson today insists the family will stick together
  • Virginia Roberts writing a tell-all book about Prince Andrew allegations 
  • She claims she had sex three times with Duke of York when under-age
  • He slept with her in New York, London and Caribbean, court papers claim 
  • Duke accused of abusing girl 'procured' for him by Jeffrey Epstein  
  • Allegations robustly denied by Buckingham Palace in three statements
  • Claims by woman's father she met the Queen also categorically denied  

By Arthur Martin In Verbier For The Daily Mail and Richard Shears and Martin Robinson and Richard Spillett for MailOnline

Published: 20:06 AEST, 5 January 2015 | Updated: 05:27 AEST, 6 January 2015

The Duchess of York launched an extraordinary defence of her former husband Prince Andrew today, describing him as 'the greatest man there is'.

Sarah Ferguson appeared in public for the first time since the Duke of York was accused of having sex with an under-age girl in a US court.

The Duchess has kept a low profile at the luxury Swiss ski chalet where she has been holidaying with Andrew and their younger daughter Eugenie.

But today she emerged from the £22,000-a-week chalet and went for a mountain walk dressed in black sportswear.

Asked by the Daily Mail if she was sticking by the Duke, she replied: ‘The York family is a tight unit. We’ve always been a tight unit.

‘He is the greatest man there is. It was the finest moment of my life in 1986 when I married him. He is a great man, the best man in the world.’ 

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Sarah Ferguson has come out in defence of her ex-husband, Prince Andrew, insisting: He is the greatest man there is. The Duchess of York has stayed on at the ski resort where she and the Duke were staying with family and friends when the sex scandal broke last week
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Sarah Ferguson has come out in defence of her ex-husband, Prince Andrew, insisting: 'He is the greatest man there is.' The Duchess of York has stayed on at the ski resort where she and the Duke were staying with family and friends when the sex scandal broke last week

Looking unbowed by the pressure of recent days, Fergie spoke out in support of her ex-husband as she went on an Alpine walk this afternoon
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Looking unbowed by the pressure of recent days, Fergie spoke out in support of her ex-husband as she went on an Alpine walk this afternoon
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Looking unbowed by the pressure of recent days, Fergie spoke out in support of her ex-husband as she went on an Alpine walk this afternoon

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The 55-year-old Duchess said the day she married Prince Andrew in 1986 was the 'finest moment of my life'

The Duke has  denied  abuse claims by Virginia Roberts, pictured in Denver, Colorado this weekend
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The Duke has denied abuse claims by Virginia Roberts, pictured in Denver, Colorado this weekend

Miss Roberts claims Prince Andrew had sex with her when she was 17 – a minor under US law – and employed as a sex slave by his friend Jeffrey Epstein
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Miss Roberts claims Prince Andrew had sex with her when she was 17 – a minor under US law – and employed as a 'sex slave' by his friend Jeffrey Epstein

Prince Andrew  left the resort yesterday, bound for Britain and talks with the Queen, senior aides and lawyers
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Prince Andrew left the resort yesterday, bound for Britain and talks with the Queen, senior aides and lawyers

The Duke and Duchess separated in 1992 but remain close and regularly go on holiday with each other at the luxury Swiss ski resort of Verbier.

Sarah was with Andrew when he was accused of abusing a girl 'procured' for him by his close friend and convicted paedophile, Jeffrey Epstein.

The extraordinary allegation was made by Virginia Roberts as part of a US civil case against shamed billionaire Epstein. She claims

Prince Andrew had sex with her when she was 17 - a minor under US law - and employed as a 'sex slave' by Epstein. 

The Duke was meanwhile holed up at his Royal Lodge mansion in Windsor today from where he is believed to have spoken to the Queen by phone to tell her he is innocent of claims levelled against him in a US court.

Aides say he will not let allegations of abuse by Virginia Roberts stop his work championing British technology and industry.

He is expected to attend the World Economic Forum in Davos on January 21 after discussing the civil case in Florida with his lawyers and advisers.

A source close to the royal said: 'The Prince is nothing if not resilient. He is determined to push on with his work, not least because the civil case is an ongoing process that won't end anytime soon. There have been many twists and turns already.

 'Since 2011 the Duke has made huge strides in trying to help young entrepreneurs and the British technology and enterprise sectors. He will carry on with that work. That is his priority.'

Fergie had not spoken about the claims until today, when she opened up while walking through the hills
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Fergie had not spoken about the claims until today, when she opened up while walking through the snow
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Fergie had not spoken about the claims until today, when she opened up while walking through the hills

The Duchess, who is still close friends with Andrew despite their split, passionately defended her ex-husband
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The Duchess, who is still close friends with Andrew despite their split, passionately defended her ex-husband

Serious: Both the Duke of York and his daughter Eugenie looked tense as they were swept away from the chalet yesterday and taken to a private jet
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Serious: Both the Duke of York and his daughter Eugenie looked tense as they were swept away from the chalet yesterday and taken to a private jet

The Queen pictured driving into Sandringham today, is believed to have spoken to Andrew by phone
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The Queen pictured driving into Sandringham today, is believed to have spoken to Andrew by phone

It is said Miss Roberts (pictured on Saturday) will put her claims in a book which could be released this year
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It is said Miss Roberts (pictured on Saturday) will put her claims in a book which could be released this year

Miss Roberts has not spoken about her claims since details of the court case emerged late last week
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Miss Roberts has not spoken about her claims since details of the court case emerged late last week

Fresh scandal: Prince Andrew pictured in 2001 with Virginia Roberts, who claims in court she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York three times while underage and is said to be planning a book about her life
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Fresh scandal: Prince Andrew pictured in 2001 with Virginia Roberts, who claims in court she was forced to have sex with the Duke of York three times while underage and is said to be planning a book about her life

The Queen is expected to continue staying in Sandringham, Norfolk until February and she was seen at the country estate today driving her Range Rover.

It is understood Prince Andrew will remain in Windsor for a week - although a trip to see the Queen face-to-face has not been ruled out. 

In a strongly-worded statement, a Buckingham Palace spokesman has said: 'It is emphatically denied that the Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts. The allegations made are false and without any foundation.'

FERGIE'S £15,000 DEBT DEAL WITH CONVICTED BUSINESSMAN AT THE CENTRE OF CURRENT COURT CASE 

Sarah Ferguson was once given £15,000 from paedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein to pay off her debts.

The deal was struck in December 2010 after months of negotiations with the disgraced tycoon who insisted on helping with her financial troubles.

It came within days of the Duke of York flying out to visit Epstein in New York, fuelling speculation he had smoothed the path for his ex-wife to take the money just 18 months after he was released from jail for soliciting prostitution from under-age girls.

The Duchess of York later claimed her judgment had been 'clouded' by her desperation to get out of her £5million debt and vowed to repay the money.

But when asked today whether she had paid back the cash, her spokesman told MailOnline: 'No comment'. 

Fergie's relationship with Epstein has been thrown into the spotlight once again amid the furore over claims Prince Andrew had sex with an under-age girl 'procured' by the disgraced tycoon - an allegation the prince 'emphatically denies'. 

It emerged this morning that the scandal may be worsened for the Prince if Miss Roberts goes through with plans to put her claims into a book.

MailOnline understands she intends to name American politicians, business executives, foreign presidents and a well-known Prime Minister with whom she claims the Prince's former friend Jeffrey Epstein forced her to sleep.

It is thought Miss Roberts, whose father claimed she has met the Queen, could publish the book this year, which means the scandal shows no sign of abating for the royal family.

Mr Roberts has since withdrawn his claim, saying it was a misunderstanding 

The prince – who looked sombre as he left his luxury £22,000-a-week Swiss ski chalet yesterday – today met with his most senior aides and lawyers in his mansion close to Windsor Castle.

Buckingham Palace is said to have conceded the furore 'isn't going to go away' after Prince Andrew returned to Britain following a luxury holiday with his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson and daughter Eugenie.

The Duke of York had been locked inside a £22,000-a-week ski lodge in Verbier since he was accused of abusing the girl 'procured' for him by his close friend and convicted paedophile Epstein. But he left the Swiss resort yesterday afternoon. 

The extraordinary allegation made by Virginia Roberts is part of a US civil case against shamed billionaire Epstein. She claims Prince Andrew had sex with her when she was 17 – a minor under US law – and employed as a 'sex slave' by Epstein.

The fifth in line to the throne slept with Miss Roberts at an orgy with other under-age girls on Epstein's private Caribbean island, as well as in a private house in London and in Epstein's New York mansion, according to the court papers. 

If Miss Roberts does publish a tell-all book, which expands on the claims she made in court papers, it could be a major embarrassment to Prince Andrew and the Royal Family.  

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Virginia Roberts' new lease on life after escaping from billionaire sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein
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Prince Andrew sex charge victim named

Buckingham Palace steps up its denial that Prince Andrew had sex with an underage girl and names the victim which the UK press say had wanted to remain anonymous.

No amount of the high life – private islands, waterfront mansions, and hedonistic parties with the super rich – was enough to keep Virginia Roberts from escaping the clutches of a billionaire sexual predator who had allegedly trained her to be his "number one girl".

Ms Roberts has alleged in court papers that disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein used her as an underage sex slave and "gave" her to Prince Andrew.

Once a "number one girl": No amount of the high life was enough to stop Virginia Roberts from escaping from the clutches of a billionaire sex predator.
Once a "number one girl": No amount of the high life was enough to stop Virginia Roberts from escaping from the clutches of a billionaire sex predator. Photo: Facebook

Buckingham Palace has issued two statements refuting Ms Roberts' allegations against Prince Andrew.

Advertisement "It is emphatically denied that HRH The Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts," a palace spokesperson said. "The allegations made are false and without any foundation."

Alan Dershowitz, a Harvard law professor and Jeffrey Epstein's former lawyer, has also denied allegations made by Ms Roberts and has promised on CNN to sue her for defamation if she makes the accusations publicly.



He said the allegations against him were especially unfair because they were made in a court case where he was not a party, so that he had no chance to respond directly.

"In the end I will prevail," he said. "They took on the wrong innocent person."




For 11 years, the ex-masseuse and her husband raised their three smiley children in the secluded suburb of Glenning Valley on the New South Wales' Central Coast.

In November 2013, the family packed their bags and moved to Florida in the United States, real estate records show.

Ms Roberts' Facebook wall is plastered with snaps of her two sons and daughter playing in the driveway of their new home, swimming at Florida's beaches and visiting theme parks.

"Dolphins swimming with us, horse-shoe crabs under our feet and seahorse in the water bottles. What else can ya ask 4 in life!! This is bloody awesome!!" she said in a post, recounting a day trip to Playa Linda Beach in Florida last year.

In the past year, the family went on trips to Jupiter, Silver Springs theme Park and Fort Lauderdale Beach. In one shot, her husband "Robbie" shows off a small shark he has caught off the coast of Florida.

"Love Ft. Lauderdale!!! The kids are being spoiled rotten this weekend!! Gotta love life & enjoy it whilst we're still alive!!" she wrote in the caption.

Ms Roberts was 15 years old and working as a changing room assistant at Donald Trump's palatial country club called Mar-A-Lago when she became a travelling masseuse to Mr Epstein. For four years he had sex with her and "gave" her to his powerful friends, she claimed in court documents filed at the end of December.

During this time she experienced the height of luxury – partying on his private island in the Caribbean, flying around the world, and mingling with the rich and famous. But she couldn't contain her happiness the day her family moved into their simple, two-storey home in Florida. "Our new house," she wrote alongside a photograph of the modest residence. "We move in on Friday!! Super excited to finally be settling in."

The Californian-born blonde made her escape from Mr Epstein's employment when, for her 19th birthday, he enrolled her in a massage course.

She flew over to Thailand and met an Australian martial arts expert named Robert. A whirlwind courtship ensued, and within 10 days they were married. "Robert taught me how to live again," Ms Roberts told the Daily Mail.

The newlyweds established their home in a three-bedroom, single-storey brick house, directly opposite thick bushland, on the Central Coast.

But she could never shake off the horrific memories of the sexual abuse at the hands of her "mentor", Mr Epstein. "I still dream about Jeffrey. I still wake up at night in tears," she has previously said. She is a keen sun bather, traveller and horse rider – three things she has continued to enjoy after her move to the US.



Virginia Roberts' father, Sky, has alleged his daughter had been introduced to the Queen in 2001. A Buckingham Palace spokesman has rejected the allegation, saying they had no record of such a meeting.

"She was so excited about meeting the Queen," Sky Roberts told the UK's The Sun. "She had been flown to London by Jeffrey. He would fly her all over the world on his private jet."



He wants Prince Andrew to "pay the consequences" of his actions.

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is there any new info in all these artilces or just regurgitated stuff?
 
another 1 of the resons i stopped watching the news a long time ago..
they show the same story atleast 5 times a day if it's big enough...
with usually exactly the same info/dialogue.
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unless a female speaks up and tells a bloke their age, how would blokes know these days ?   many girls I see around that I KNOW are 15 or less look 15 going on 30 to me and a lot of others .  i see them try to get in the local club and unless its the local barman, who knows the whole town, working, and chucks them out, they get away with it because they can easily pass for early to mid 20ies.
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Here's the thing, this is not a bloke innocently picking up a girl at a bar.

He is paying for it. And not a few cheap bucks.

Prince Andrew, at the age of 35-40, as a member of the royal family is knowingly paying for sex with a girl who may be 16 or 17 maximum.

that is worse than Rolf Harris.
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You are all missing the point This isn't about Virginia Roberts and how old SHE was.
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has she spent all the money already..??


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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

unless a female speaks up and tells a bloke their age, how would blokes know these days ?   many girls I see around that I KNOW are 15 or less look 15 going on 30 to me and a lot of others .  i see them try to get in the local club and unless its the local barman, who knows the whole town, working, and chucks them out, they get away with it because they can easily pass for early to mid 20ies.


so are you saying Epstein and poonce Andrews did not know the girls' ages Confused
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who coined the phrase "sex slave"..?

 
clearly nonsense. "underage prostitute"
lot more accurate. she was free to go where she wanted, when she wanted + got paid
very well for her services..not even close to being a slave.
 
I also have a problem with her parents pretending they didn't know what was going on..
ridiculous to think she was getting all that $ + high class treatment for massages.
+ also a problem with her planning to write a book about it..money hungry, it seems.
 
the kids as young as 12 is sickening.
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Browndog, why the hell are you deleting my posts, I am making a valid point !!!
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You and Fiddlesticks can't play nice together, so you both are wasting your time posting anything to each other

There are plenty of other people to talk toSmile
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The fact that the girls received money in no way absolves the rock spiders of blame and is totally irrelevant.

Are people saying that if girls of say 8 years accept money for sex they are the guilty parties ?
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if you are directing that question at me Whale,
don't be absurd..this girl was 15,16,17..not 8.
 
the law was broken + the perpertrators should be punished.
as i stated i have a problem with the term slave..
+ her parents not doing anything to protect her.
 
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Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

if you are directing that question at me Whale,
don't be absurd..this girl was 15,16,17..not 8.
 
the law was broken + the perpertrators should be punished.
as i stated i have a problem with the term slave..
+ her parents not doing anything to protect her.
 


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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

unless a female speaks up and tells a bloke their age, how would blokes know these days ?   many girls I see around that I KNOW are 15 or less look 15 going on 30 to me and a lot of others .  i see them try to get in the local club and unless its the local barman, who knows the whole town, working, and chucks them out, they get away with it because they can easily pass for early to mid 20ies.


so are you saying Epstein and poonce Andrews did not know the girls' ages Confused

of course i am not.  of course Epstein knew for sure . no doubt of it at all ,  as its well known he is a pedo.
and one would expect randy andy to have a bit of a clue, and more sense ,  as well .  given his position one would expect MUCH better of him, as he must have known about Epstein.  its well known andy likes call girls, but you would expect a man to have more sense and not even get himself into these situations.
and i do get it that a lot of other girls were much younger than this virginia , and epstein was a user and procurer of under age girls.
but  V was free to come and go as she pleased for starters.
and her parents must have been living in a bubble to think it was OK for their 17 year old to be off massaging men.
she didnt look to be forcibly held, or unhappy, or miserable, in that pic with andy.  in fact she looked pretty pleased with herself. 
not saying any of it is right.  its the younger ones i feel for,  but i dont quite think V has all her marbles expecting people to believe everything she did, and got paid for, was forced.

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Did they really need to mention that the ski chalet was £22,000 a week 3 times in the one article!!!
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the term slavery in this context comes from the old term for a "sex slave" where a man of wealth would peddle young women out to many many other men.

We don't know how many men this woman was forced to sleep with (payment or not); was it 50; was it 100, was it 10,000.

It is a crime, a very profitable crime and it is going on all over the world, but it's very difficult to accurately determine how many victims there are here.

The false promises? The debt bondage? The callous, degrading and outlandish wanton ownership of a person as a play toy? etc, etc.

The law pretty much agrees that children deserve to have their innocence in tact; wether the child itself believes it is an adult or not.

This is an example of why there are such laws.

Children (under the definition of the law) can be manipulated very very easily.
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well I guess she spent all the money already then..
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And of course there is a lot of fawning to the Royal Family, how could they possibly do something like this.

Much the same as the deluded fools who refuse to believe that Catholic priests are capable of despicable acts Unhappy

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Royal Family and integrity..

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Human Race and integrity.
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You don't mind that I'm 15?'


Melbourne vigilantes claim to expose paedophiles in Tinder experiment

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    A group of young Melburnians say they are exposing paedophiles grooming underage girls on dating app Tinder by creating a fake profile and filming the confronting encounters that follow.

    The creators of "The Tinder Experiment" claim to have set-up a fake profile of a 15-year-old girl they called 'Imogen'.

    The group say they secretly filmed her conversations with men online where she tells them her age and then subsequent face-to-face meetings in a Melbourne bayside home with two separate men, one aged 31 years old and the other 43.

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    A hidden camera records the meetings where the men try to kiss her before a young man posing as her brother arrives home and frightens them off.

    Victoria Police say they are now investigating after two videos of the encounters were uploaded to YouTube last month.

    In the videos, 'Imogen' tells the two men online that she lied about her age to create an account, that she is actually 15 years old and at home alone. Both men still ask if they can meet her.

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    The creators, which includes a 21-year-old who pretended to be 'Imogen', and two others aged 25 years old, would only speak to Fairfax Media anonymously via their Facebook page after the story was first published on TechGeek, an Australian technology news website.

    They said they wanted to test the integrity and morality of Tinder users after noticing an "alarming" amount of inappropriate content on the dating app, including prostitution and drug trafficking.

    "We want to highlight how easy it is for illegal behaviour to take place via mobile dating apps and how little consequences there is for the offenders. We don't think anyone realises just how common it is and how many people are getting away with it," they said.

    Melbourne-based cyber safety consultant Susan McLean said the experiment was dangerous and will not lead to convictions given the actions could be classed as entrapment.

    "It's absolute stupidity. I can see this ending terribly for everyone involved. Yes we need these creeps arrested, but the police do this and they do this very well," she said.

    The creators said they knew it was "potentially dangerous", but they had extra men on standby in the house. They said they did not report what they found to police.

    "The police will see the videos regardless and probably investigate. We're happy to give them any information they require, but we still don't think there's a lot that they can do given that no crimes were technically committed within this experiment," they said.

    Victoria Police said they were made aware of the video and they do not condone the actions shown in the clip.

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    Virginia Roberts: From ‘sex slave’ to Central Coast mum

    • Richard Noone
    • The Daily Telegraph
    • January 07, 2015 12:00AM
    Virginia Roberts / Picture: Facebook

    Virginia Roberts / Picture: Facebook

    THE woman at the centre of the Prince Andrew scandal was a “lovely mum” who kept allegations she had been forced into underage sex slavery from friends and neighbours in her Central Coast community for 13 years.

    Residents of the typically quiet suburb of Glenning Valley, near Tuggerah, have been left “gobsmacked” and “feeling for” Virginia Roberts amid allegations she had sex with the Duke of York while she was allegedly kept as a sex slave by his friend, Wall Street financier Jeffrey Epstein.


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    US-born Ms Roberts, now 30, claims in US court documents that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew in London, New York and in the Caribbean, at Epstein’s behest, while she was underage.

    Epstein and the Prince have vigorously denied the allegations.

    “She was lovely,” Cellarbrations Chittaway bottle shop worker Sue ­Evrard recalled yesterday. “I knew her just from coming in here. She had two little boys and a little girl. She was ­always really pleasant.”

    Ms Roberts was known as “Gina” or “Ginny”, as she was affectionately called by her Australian husband Robert­ Giuffre, whom she met in Thailand where she had allegedly been sent by Epstein to study massage.

    The house in Glenning Valley where Virginia Roberts lived / Picture: Troy Snook

    The house in Glenning Valley where Virginia Roberts lived / Picture: Troy Snook

    “When I saw it on the news I was gobsmacked,” Ms Evrard said. “I just screamed: ‘That’s my Ginny’. I just ­remember how she was a really good mum. I was really sad when she ­decided to go back to the US.”

    The family moved to Colorado in 2013. Ms Roberts had told the bottle shop attendant she wanted to be ­ closer to her brother and his children.

    Ms Evrard said Ms Roberts never mentioned meeting anyone from the royal family or any dealings with ­Epstein. She was considered a typical Central Coast mum whose American accent was all that made her stand out.

    Convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

    Convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

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    Virginia Roberts / Picture: Facebook

    Ms Evrard said Ms Roberts was “always entertaining” friends and hosting barbecues at the family home on Bundeena Rd. That house is now occupied by single mum Honor Symes and her four children, who ­attended the same Chittaway Public School as Ms Roberts’ two boys.

    “I knew of her, she was a lovely lady,” Ms Symes said.

    “She was well liked, just a lovely person from the small amount of conversations I had with her.”

    The house in Glenning Valley where Virginia Roberts lived / Picture: Troy Snook

    The house in Glenning Valley where Virginia Roberts lived / Picture: Troy Snook

    Ms Symes said she had friends much closer to Ms Roberts but none had any idea of the allegations that have rocked Buckingham Palace.

    “She has been in contact with some people over the past 48 hours. It’s not something she broadcast over here, she might have with other people but that’s not a conversation I ever had with her,” Ms Symes said.

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    Prince Andrew allegedly spent time with girls, Woody Allen at home of convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein

    • ANDREW JEFFERSON
    • Herald Sun
    • January 07, 2015 9:00PM
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    Convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

    Convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

    PRINCE Andrew spent time with several young women and controversial film director Woody Allen while staying with paedophile friend Jeffrey Epstein in the United States, it has been claimed.

    At least five girls were spotted going into Epstein’s New York mansion during Andrew’s 2010 visit, it has been claimed.

    American Virginia Roberts, 31, has claimed she was forced to have sex three times with the Duke of York when she was 17, which in Florida is below the age of consent.

    In explosive court papers she claimed she was recruited as a 15-year-old, turned into Epstein’s “sex slave”, and paid cash to sleep with his rich and famous friends.

    It’s claimed Allen, 79, who caused outrage when he began a relationship with his young stepdaughter, Soon-Yi, in 1992, was one of the few male visitors to Epstein’s plush pad.

    Neighbours say he arrived just before a Sunday lunch with Soon-Yi, 35 years his junior and now his wife, and the pair spent more than an hour inside.

    Allen’s adopted daughter, Dylan Farrow, has accused him of sexually abusing her as a child — a claim Allen denies.

    Andrew, 54, stayed with the shamed Epstein, 61, for four days in December 2010, shortly after the billionaire financier had finished a jail sentence on child prostitution charges.

    Epstein was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an under-age girl for prostitution and jailed for 18 months.

    The comings and goings were said to have been witnessed by Andrew’s royal bodyguards. New York police were also on duty in the Manhattan street as the prince remained holed up in Epstein’s palatial seven-storey home.

    At one point during Andrew’s visit, TV star and neighbour Bill Cosby — now the subject of multiple rape allegations — asked about the excessive security.

    A local said Andrew’s visit caused quite a stir. “Andrew barely left the house but lots of people, including Woody Allen and several young women, were seen going in while he was there,” the local said.

    After photos emerged of Epstein and the prince walking together, Buckingham Palace ordered Andrew to end the friendship.

    Buckingham Palace insists the prince never had any sexual contact with Ms Roberts, with whom he was once pictured, an arm around her.

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