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Tlazolteotl
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You would wonder how bushfire arsonists ever get caught. In the middle of the Woop Woop State forest. Nobody within miles.
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A shame there aren't more like the man who drove a truckload of new clothes up to the relief centres in Victoria...or the Sikh Volunteers Australia, who are donating hot meals for those displaced people... |
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Do not know about in NSW, but in Victoria the Andrews government has become dependent on the Greens preferences and as a consequence .....
A.the wiped out of the mountain cattlemen, resulting in cattle no longer grazing in the highlands B.almost eliminated the logging industry felling trees for timber for building houses. The timber mills not only replanted new trees but built tracks into the forests that firefighters once used to get to the bush fires. C.the Andrews government, under pressure from the Greens, is proposing to cull brumbies in the high country. All of the above combined to and will reduce the undergrowth that is now fueling bush fires |
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Well, the fires are into the high country now , so they will wipe out some of those 19 thousand brumbies the greens claim are in the Kosi Park. Not sure how the Pitt Street Pollies worked that number out, as cant imagine them up their in the chinos and loafers, brumby counting. Ot maybe they get someone else to count the poo drops and multiply it by 4 ?
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The good people do far outweigh the bad, thats for sure. But I dont know wht they even bother doing court and all the rest of it, with arsonists. I think some that get caught are seen, or photoed, and dobbed in.
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animals before people.
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More than 10 years ago this one , so the cycle for another disaster was due . Only gets worse with lots more people populating these high risk areas. Terrible ordeal for so many . Most of us powerless to help, apart from some donations to aid the cause . We still have 3 months of Summer to face so God knows what these people have to face. |
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So let me get this straight, Rightards - if your decisions are influenced by someone else, but it's your decision, you don't accept full responsibility for the decision. Is that how you conduct your own affairs.
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Tlazolteotl
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The buck stops with the Greens. The Greens - anywhere but here.
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Did you actually read what I wrote ? Green preferences get the ALP into government. SC, there is a difference between preferences on election day and votes in the house. |
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I'd say I'm surprised at how quickly this turned into a left v right thread but I'm not. Spend more time focusing on the important gelati right now.
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Seems every subject on here quickly becomes a place for everyone to beat their political drum lately.
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thank you, PT...I gave it three goes before throwing in the towel.
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Desert War, Rain Lover, Latin Knight, Hay List, Mustard...my turf heroes...
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The same fcuk knuckles in the ALP/Greens and their biased left leaning media are calling for a "Royal Commission" because of the "Unprecedented ... Rrrrrreeeeee!!!" bushfires.
Yep and when they conducted the Royal Commission after the 2009 Victorian Fires, what were the recommendations? * The Commission recognises that prescribed burning is risky, resource intensive, available only in limited time frames, and can temporarily have adverse effects on local communities (for example, reduced air quality). Nonetheless, it considers that the amount of prescribed burning occurring in Victoria is inadequate * An additional fire rating beyond "Extreme" So, which one did Daniel Andrews file in the bottom draw? Hint ... the fire danger was "CATASTROPHIC ... Rrrrrrrreeeeeee!!!", but the State Forests remain locked up and Green Activists who successfully stop fuel reduction burns cop a slap on the wrist ... Well done Greenie Dan!! ... I think they call that MANSLAUGHTER. When tf will you dopey Mexicans stop voting for him, and lynch this fraud? |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Genuine, reciprocated handshakes.
Unlike the lardass who followed a forced handshake by clearly turning his back on unwilling recipient who shock horror began to query the National response. No apologies for this comment, as our PM's responses to the devastation show him up for what he is: a totally brilliant communicator but essentially a straw man.
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Dr E
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... have a read of the 2009 Vic Bushfire "Royal Commission" ... the idiots are all calling for another one! It says that "fuel reduction is inadequate" and that they needed a "fire condition warning above 'Emergency'". ... and the HYSTERICAL Greenies got their way with "CATASTROPHIC" fire warnings, and the National Parks got locked up. but, but, but, the Greens are not in Government, are they Dan!!!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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Will Daniel Andrews be up on Manslaughter charges after this ... or do you think he has shaken hands with enough minority groups to make him safe in Victoriastan?
Will Albo come to the rescue and have himself photoshopped into the picture, making a sandwich? ... better still, maybe he could actually make a sandwich for someone who is making a difference - like ScoMo! Forget the Fake Climate Alarm, the virtue signalling ALP/Greens are the most toxic fraud and dangerous thing ever imposed on our economy and our environment. These "UNPRECEDENTED" bushfires are all their fault. We sure did dodge a bullet in May. How good? ScoMo is VERY good!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Second Chance
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Doc now clearly many lengths ahead of Bob in the "bullshyt baiting totally nonsensical post of the year" award.
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Dr E
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It's wide open folks!!! You find it such a challenge to believe anything that Greta or PT didn't say, anybody could potentially win this award by posting literally anything!! Edited by horlicks - 03 Jan 2020 at 7:44pm |
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WTF!
Doc actually providing a link that’s actually on topic AND from a reputable source. Someone hack his account? |
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Thanks Rusty and Doc for reminding us of the Report following the disastrous fires 10 years ago now. That's why the following article is now so timely and prescient:
Andrews
has spent years preparing for this crisis. And it shows By Noel Towell Daniel Andrews has long feared that these days would come. The Premier has been
both dreading this crisis and preparing for it for 11 years. It’s bad, very bad
and it could get worse. We’re
only halfway, at best, through this emergency and already the human toll of
these fires looks grim, with two confirmed dead at the time of writing and
grave fears held for the safety of the 28 people “unaccounted for”. But it is no Black Saturday, which killed 173 people and with serious failings later uncovered in the state’s preparation and response. Andrews,
whose ability to learn from mistakes is formidable, was a senior minister in
February 2009 and the horror of those fires has stayed with him. There’s
no doubting his determination to prevent another Black Saturday. The
Premier and his colleagues endured political misery for their efforts to reform
the fire services amid constant claims the Labor government was “destroying”
the Country Fire Authority. But the
CFA has looked anything but a destroyed organisation in recent days. The
volunteers have been magnificent, as always but their commanders have looked
well-organised, competent and calm. It has been an effective effort. So far. Andrews
certainly thinks so, feeling confident enough to declare on Friday that the
most contentious of his reforms, the merging of the CFA with the Melbourne Fire
Brigade, has clicked in this emergency. There’s another big difference this time. The “leave now”
message could not be further removed from the “stay or go” advice that proved
so disastrous in February 2009. The
simple message, delivered in tough language, looks to have worked in moving
people out of the danger zones in large numbers. It’s
too early to say how history will judge the Andrews government for its response
to this crisis. Failures of strategy and tactics often only emerge in the days
and weeks after the smoke has cleared, just like they did after Black Saturday. But
leadership matters too and in that respect Andrews is giving a lesson to his
mate Prime Minister Scott Morrison whose response at times has been hard to
look at. The Premier
was back from his holiday promptly on Monday night, as the first reports of
property loss began to emerge, being briefed at the State Control Centre, and
he fronted the media the next day. Bushfire victim slams Scott
Morrison for walking away Add
to shortlist There
was no hesitation from Andrews in asking Morrison for military assistance or to
get out to the fire grounds; he showed up and he kept showing up. Nobody
on Spring Street can remember a leader dragging the media to a conference at
nearly 11 o’clock at night as the Premier did on Thursday to declare the
sweeping State of Disaster powers, another post-Black Saturday innovation. Nor has
Andrews had the media criticism over his response that Morrison has copped
since the infamous Hawaii episode and if social media is any guide, people are
finding in the Premier the leadership they believe is lacking elsewhere. But
Andrews’ sure-footed effort shouldn’t come as a surprise; he’s been planning it
for years.
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New Years Resolution rusty ... naaaah!
It is quite a depressing read in fact ... the green activist bureaucrats and "advisers" were clearly more interested in getting an "amp that goes up to 11", than stopping the fire threat ... and Dan did their dirty work ... crazy stuff, and proves again - we need a Royal Commission into Royal Commissions!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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SC, you notice that there is NO MENTION OF PREVENTION ... just how to make sure he is filmed presiding over a "CATASTROPHE" reather than a mere "emergency" ... and that he can blame Climate Change and the indigenous communitoies have access to a fire app fiddlesticks ...
Dan is guilty of willful criminal negligence in my opinion ... he locked the bush up after being told that they needed to do much more backburning ... and the people who have lost property or worse their lives have one person to blame ... and it's not Izzy.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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SC, you have gone to ground once I pointed out to you preferences were only applicable in an election and not about voting in the Houses of Parliament,
It appears you, not I, as you inferred, that knows Jack all about preferences as distinct from voting in parliament. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Again you talk absolute nonsense as Labor did rely on Greens preferences to form Government at the last two elections. Indeed Labor publicly distanced itself from the Greens prior to the most recent election. As it transpired the Greens polled poorly, managing only three in the Lower House. Labor would have won a clear majority in the Lower House had not a single Greens preference vote gone to Labor.
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You just talk in an uninformed manner without any facts whatsoever, and that's a fact.
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Government
rejected major air-tanker expansion By David Crowe The nation's aerial firefighting centre called four years ago for a "national large air-tanker" fleet to confront a growing bushfire threat but was turned down in a federal government ruling that the task was one for the states. The National Aerial Firefighting Centre, which oversees a fleet of 145 aircraft, warned of hotter and more extended bushfire seasons in a call on governments in May 2016 to establish the major new capability. |
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