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Second Chance
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Posted: 31 Jan 2020 at 6:08pm |
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Quite apart from 40 degree plus temperatures which are leaving vegetation tinder dry, the following could well lead tolightning strikes and further serious fire activity.
ps Another 20 separate fires flared throughout Victoria last night. Hands up all those who believe arsonists and/or the lack of fuel reduction burns were to blame.
"Very dangerous" thunderstorm
to hit Mornington Peninsula imminently The Bureau of Meteorology
says a "very dangerous" thunderstorm with 125km/h winds are expected
to hit the Mornington Peninsula within
the next few minutes. Hands up all those who believe arsonists and/or the lack of fuel reduction burns will be to blame. |
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Second Chance
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Or to be rather more precise make that "Hands up all those who believe arsonists and/or the lack of hazard reduction burns were to blame".
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Second Chance
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Another 20 separate fires flared throughout Victoria overnight.
Hands up all those who believe arsonists and/or the lack of control burning were to blame.
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Baghdad Bob
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This was recorded in 2009 after the disastrous Victorian bush fires of that year. It is just as appropriate today as it was all those ten years ago
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Dr E
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Well at least you do that well.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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Yes, thanks GAJ These lines are just so Australian ...
And Dunn, the trooper, is riding his rounds with a blind eye out for Jim, |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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... I hope that you didn't know that "your" Dan Andrews; * Cut $50 million from the RFS budget - understandable if they have stopped bothering with fuel reduction - and * Gave himself a $47k pay rise - because he is doing such a great job for the United nations! ... |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Softy
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And how did I foresee that Mr Positivity.
Obviously not the intellectual GIANT that you are but modesty was fashionable in our household. |
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Dr E
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We are in furious agreement softy.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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softy, the PM has no say in STATE BASED RFS. Stop repeating what the TV tells you to say.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Dr E
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Why? ... we have had 18 major inquiries in 80 years ... the only thing that the Labor/Greens in Victoria has done is make new fire hazard warning signs that go up to "CATASTROPHIC" ... which was very well received by the "activist media" and the HYSTERICAL greenies ... RRRRREEEEEEEE!!! They ignored the recommendations of the 2010 Victorian Royal Commission - common to EVERY inquiry - to "substantially increase fuel reduction measures". What will a Royal Commission tell you that you don't know, and what would the point even be? Royal Commissions simply waste time and money, tell us what we know, have no powers, and they are mostly just placed in a bottom draw of a filing cabinet. I tell you facts like these every day and you just remain an ignorant denier ... |
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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acacia alba
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Thanks GAJ for finding that Nothing like ole Henry to bring a tear to the eye. |
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animals before people.
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GAJ
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acacia alba
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Henry Lawson,s poem, The Bushfire, written round early 1900s, tells a story about busfires which sounds very much like whats happening today.
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animals before people.
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GAJ
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Totally off the argument and politics of the thread, just thought I'd share what I saw on a film we watched the other night called 'Manganini'.A film set in1830, about a Tasmanian aboriginal woman and a little white girl, it was very good, the opening scenes showed the white settlers riding along looking back at a burn off by the natives! Interesting this was portrayed in the film.
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Carioca
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And neither would I for that matter Softy, very astute man fwiw. |
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Baghdad Bob
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BTW, in addition to that levy I also had my own own home and contents insurance. Although living within 6 km of the Melbourne CBD, where bush fires will never happen, I am happy in some way to contribute to the Country Fire Authority, providing the state government distributes to that authority and the Metropolitan Fire Brigade and not to fund other budgetary shortfalls.
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Softy
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thanks Whale, can’t quite remember but I think the AFL are safe for a while.
And I’m probably not the most intelligent either but I do know that if Alistair McLean looked at one of our horses and said ‘that tendon looks a bit iffy’, I wouldn’t disregard his advice because of his political leanings. A few on here would though. |
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Whale
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Softy, you are an intelligent person so it is obvious your signature is not your belief. Can you remind me which total idiot made that statement
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Softy
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One fact is that Morrison was warned quite early and done nothing.
Fact. |
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marble
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have to disagree Baguette - I would think that everyone wants a comprehensive and unbiased enquiry.
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Baguette
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Things like this is why we need a Federal Inquiry into these bush fires and above all the commitment to act on its findings. I don’t know about Victoria but in NSW there are so many mistakes made that contributed to the destruction and these fires getting as huge as they did. Why were the aircraft not called in earlier to the Gosper Mountain fire for example ? Before it built into an impossible to control mega fire .There seems to be a disconnect between the RFS command with their computer models and the firies on the ground actually fighting the fires and who have local knowledge. The Fire Captain from Balmoral is a hero for what he did but unfortunately his experience was repeated across the fire grounds. We also need a clear cut program as to when the Federal Government can get involved in what at the moment is a state by state response . The vocal minority of Climate Change screechers don’t want a comprehensive inquiry of course. Can’t have the facts getting in the way of their narrative can we!!
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Baghdad Bob
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In February I am about to pay my annual municipal rates and on the rates notice I see that I am being charged $373.90 for "Fire Levies ".Most property owners pay an annual levy via
their council rates to help fund
It is collected by local councils and usually appears on your rate notice., however local councils pass this levy on to the State Government where it is added to Consolidated Revenue. I pose the question if the levy forms part of the government's Consolidated Revenue how much is actually given to the MFB and the CFA ? Would you trust any government to pass any levy fully if that government faces a shortfall in other budgetary areas ? |
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Baghdad Bob
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This letter from a fire fighter was published in this morning's press....
"WHAT does the federal government have to do with fighting fires? It is the responsibility of the states. Then again, perhaps they feds should take control, as hundreds of volunteers in Victoria have deserted due to Dan the Man’s union laws. How can a paid firefighter of one year be in charge of a volunteer group captain with 30-40 years’ experience? What a joke."
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acacia alba
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Pot/kettle muchly ??? Try again , but do better next time.
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animals before people.
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stayer
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Swim off, whale. Creepy dude.
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Dr E
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Good to see your back Whale!
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Whale
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Dr E
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Yes indeed ... time you took a bex, wiped your chin, and had a lie down.
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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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